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No. 32 |
No 32 |
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Wednesday, |
Mercredi |
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Prayers |
Prières |
The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-
I beg the indulgence of the House to address a state of affairs which has become very concerning to all of the Presiding Officers, and in fact to many other members.
There can be no doubt that the fundamental prerequisite for this Assembly to function is that all members conduct themselves in a way that demonstrates a basic acceptance of the dignity of this Chamber. We all are honoured to have been chosen by our electors to represent them in this, their House. To conduct ourselves, as the publics' temporary delegates, in a way that brings disrepute to the proceedings of the Assembly is disrespectful to them, and to the traditions of parliament.
Aside from matters of general order and decorum, perhaps the most important manifestation of this respect is the quality of our response to the Chair. Your Speaker, chosen by you, is charged with the responsibility of upholding the many noble traditions of our parliamentary democracy. When the Chair is treated with disrespect, then disrespect falls upon each of us, and the rightful expectations of the public can only be undermined. Challenges to the Chair are challenges upon the rules and traditions that we must collectively agree to be governed by.
I can understand that in some situations emotions may run high, Members may be inclined to disagree with rulings and may do or say things that on second thought may be unwise. I would think that all honourable members would have an interest in maintaining the respect due to this place and later apologize, as the Chief Government Whip has done today.
Members must realize that this state of affairs puts the presiding officers in an untenable position, and makes impossible their duty to enforce the observance of all rules for preserving order in our proceedings.
To paraphrase Erskine May, the Speaker, and in turn the presiding officers, are the representatives of the House itself in its powers, proceedings and dignity.
Such attacks on the Chair as we have seen recently will not in future be tolerated. Members will be called upon in these situations to apologize immediately. Refusal may result in naming.
The responsibility for preserving the dignity and respect that this House deserves falls upon us all. I appeal to the House to honour this call to heed and uphold the fine traditions of this place.
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REPORTS BY COMMITTEES |
RAPPORTS DES COMITÉS |
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Mr. Barrett from the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills presented the Committee's Report which was read as follows and adopted:- |
M. Barrett du Comité permanent des règlements et des projets de loi privés présente le rapport du comité qui est lu comme suit et adopté:- |
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Your Committee begs to report the following Bill without amendment:- |
Votre comité propose qu'il soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant sans amendement:- |
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Bill Pr21, An Act respecting Canadian Information Processing Society of Ontario. |
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Your Committee begs to report the following Bill as amended:- |
Votre comité propose qu'il soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant avec des amendements:- |
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Bill Pr18, An Act respecting Eastern Pentecostal Bible College. |
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The Speaker addressed the House as follows:- I beg leave to inform the House that today the Clerk received the Fifth Report / cinquième rapport of the Standing Committee on Government Agencies. Pursuant to Standing Order 105(g)(9), the Report is deemed to be adopted by the House (Sessional Paper No. 77) (Tabled June 24, 1998). |
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INTRODUCTION OF BILLS |
DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI |
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The following Bills were introduced and read the first time:- |
Les projets de loi suivants sont présentés et lus une première fois:- |
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Bill 48, An Act to Improve Court Services for Families by Facilitating Expansion of the Family Court and to make other amendments to the Courts of Justice Act. Hon. C. Harnick. |
Projet de loi 48, Loi visant à améliorer les services fournis aux familles par les tribunaux en facilitant l'expansion de la Cour de la famille et apportant d'autres modifications à la Loi sur les tribunaux judiciaires. L'hon. C. Harnick. |
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Bill 49, An Act to amend the Education Act with respect to exceptional pupils to allow the Premier to keep his promise to Gordie Kirwan. Mr. D. McGuinty. |
Projet de loi 49, Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'éducation en ce qui concerne les élèves en difficulté pour permettre au premier ministre de tenir la promesse qu'il a faite à Gordie Kirwan. M. D. McGuinty. |
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Bill 50, An Act to promote patients' rights and to increase accountability in Ontario's health care system. Mrs. M. Boyd. |
Projet de loi 50, Loi visant à promouvoir les droits des patients et à accroître l'obligation de rendre des comptes dans le système de soins de santé de l'Ontario. Mme M. Boyd. |
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Bill 51, An Act to amalgamate Sunnybrook Hospital and Orthopaedic and Arthritic Hospital and to transfer all assets and liabilities of Women's College Hospital to the amalgamated hospital. Hon. E. Witmer. |
Projet de loi 51, Loi fusionnant les hôpitaux nommés Sunnybrook Hospital et Orthopaedic and Arthritic Hospital et transférant l'actif et le passif de l'hôpital nommé Women's College Hospital à l'hôpital issu de la fusion. L'hon. E. Witmer. |
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Bill 52, An Act to curtail Repeat Offences by Juvenile Delinquents. Mr. J. Brown (Scarborough West). |
Projet de loi 52, Loi visant à inciter les jeunes délinquants à ne pas récidiver. M. J. Brown (Scarborough-Ouest). |
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The following Bill was introduced, read the first time and referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills:- |
Le projet de loi suivant est présenté, lu une première fois et déféré aux Commissaires aux projets de loi ayant trait à une succession:- |
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Bill Pr20, An Act respecting Peterborough General Hospital. Mr. G. Stewart. |
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DEFERRED VOTES |
VOTES DIFFÉRÉS |
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The deferred vote on the motion for Third Reading of Bill 36, An Act to amend the Election Act and the Election Finances Act, and to make related amendments to other statutes was carried on the following division:- |
La motion portant troisième lecture du projet de loi 36, Loi modifiant la Loi électorale et la Loi sur le financement des élections et apportant des modifications connexes à d'autres lois, mise aux voix sur le vote différé, est adoptée par le vote suivant:- |
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AYES / POUR - 63 |
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Arnott |
Harris |
Ross |
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Baird |
Hodgson |
Runciman |
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Barrett |
Hudak |
Sampson |
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Bassett |
Jackson |
Saunderson |
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Beaubien |
Johns |
Sheehan |
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Boushy |
Johnson |
Skarica |
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Brown |
(Don Mills) |
Smith |
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(Scarborough West) |
Johnson |
Snobelen |
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Carr |
(Perth) |
Spina |
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Carroll |
Jordan |
Sterling |
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Chudleigh |
Kells |
Stewart |
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Clement |
Klees |
Tilson |
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Cunningham |
Leach |
Tsubouchi |
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Danford |
Leadston |
Turnbull |
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Doyle |
Marland |
Vankoughnet |
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Eves |
Martiniuk |
Wettlaufer |
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Flaherty |
Munro |
Wilson |
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Ford |
Murdoch |
Witmer |
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Fox |
Newman |
Wood |
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Froese |
O'Toole |
(London South) |
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Grimmett |
Ouellette |
Young |
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Hardeman |
Pettit |
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Harnick |
Rollins |
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NAYS / CONTRE - 36 |
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Agostino |
Curling |
Miclash |
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Bartolucci |
Duncan |
Morin |
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Bisson |
Gerretsen |
Patten |
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Boyd |
Gravelle |
Phillips |
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Bradley |
Hampton |
Pouliot |
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Brown |
Kormos |
Ramsay |
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(Algoma-Manitoulin) |
Lalonde |
Ruprecht |
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Caplan |
Lankin |
Sergio |
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Castrilli |
Lessard |
Silipo |
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Christopherson |
Marchese |
Wildman |
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NAYS / CONTRE - Continued
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Colle |
Martel |
Wood |
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Conway |
Martin |
(Cochrane North) |
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Cullen |
McGuinty |
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Following "Deferred Votes", the Speaker requested the members for Ottawa West (Mr. Cullen) and Hamilton East (Mr. Agostino) to come to order. |
À la fin de la période des « Votes différés », le Président demande aux députés d'Ottawa-Ouest, M. Cullen et de Hamilton-Est, M. Agostino de se comporter. |
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The members having refused were named by the Speaker and directed to withdraw from the service of the House for the balance of the day's sitting. |
Comme les députés refuse d'obéir, le Président les désigne par leurs noms et les ordonne de se retirer du service de l'Assemblée pour le reste du jour de la séance. |
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With unanimous consent, the House reverted to "Motions". |
Avec le consentement unanime, l'Assemblée revient à l'appel de « Motions ». |
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On motion by Mr. Sterling, |
Sur la motion de M. Sterling, |
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Ordered, That, the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills be authorized to meet on Thursday, June 25, 1998 from 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. for the purpose of considering Bill Pr19, An Act respecting the Municipality of Chatham-Kent. |
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PETITIONS |
PÉTITIONS |
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Petitions relating to Stopping the funding of abortions (Sessional Paper No. P-1) (Tabled June 24, 1998) Mr. B. Murdoch and Mr. B. Wood (London South).
Petition relating to Stopping cuts to the Workers Health and Safety Centre (Sessional Paper No. P-4) (Tabled June 24, 1998) Mr. D. Christopherson.
Petitions relating to Enacting legislation to recognize freedom of health care workers (Sessional Paper No. P-7) (Tabled June 24, 1998) Mr. J. Baird and Mr. D. Christopherson.
Petition relating to the Recognition of the contributions of chiropractors to Ontario Health Care (Sessional Paper No. P-9) (Tabled June 24, 1998) Mr. T. Barrett.
Petition relating to Urging the federal government to repeal sections of Bill C-68 (Sessional Paper No. P-29) (Tabled June 24, 1998) Mr. H. Danford.
Petition relating to Keeping our secure and treatment facilities for young offenders professional and public (Sessional Paper No. P-40) (Tabled June 24, 1998) Mrs. M. Boyd.
Petition relating to Lakehead Psychiatric Hospital (Sessional Paper No. P-51) (Tabled June 24, 1998) Mr. M. Gravelle.
Petition relating to stopping charity casino in Gloucester (Sessional Paper No. P-70) (Tabled June 24, 1998) Mr. J. Bradley.
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ORDERS OF THE DAY |
ORDRE DU JOUR |
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Mr. Sterling moved, |
M. Sterling propose, |
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That, pursuant to Standing Order 46 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 35, An Act to create jobs and protect consumers by promoting low-cost energy through competition, to protect the environment, to provide for pensions and to make related amendments to certain Acts, when Bill 35 is next called as a government order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill, without further debate or amendment; and at such time, the bill shall be referred to the Standing Committee on Resources Development;
That the Standing Committee on Resources Development shall be authorized to meet for 8 days during the Summer recess for the purpose of conducting public hearings.
That, pursuant to Standing Order 74(d), the Chair of the Standing Committee on Resources Development shall establish the deadline for the tabling of amendments or for filing them with the Clerk of the Standing Committee;
That the Committee shall be authorized to meet for four days at its regularly scheduled meeting times for the purpose of clause-by-clause consideration of the bill beginning at its first regularly scheduled meeting time following the said recess;
That the Committee be authorized to meet for a fifth day of clause-by-clause consideration from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. and following Routine Proceedings until completion of clause-by-clause consideration.
At 4:30 p.m. on that fifth day of clause-by-clause consideration, those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the bill and any amendments thereto.
That any divisions required shall be deferred until all remaining questions have been put and taken in succession with one 20-minute waiting period allowed pursuant to Standing Order 127(a);
That the Committee shall report the bill to the House not later than the first Sessional day that reports from Committees may be received following completion of clause-by-clause consideration. In the event that the Committee fails to report the bill on the date provided, the bill shall be deemed to have been passed by the Committee and shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House;
That upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Resources Development, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith and at such time the bill shall be ordered for third reading;
That one Sessional day shall be allotted to the third reading stage of the bill. At 5:55 p.m. or 9:25 p.m., as the case may be, on such day, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or amendment;
That, the vote on third reading of the bill may, at the request of any chief whip of a recognized party in the House, be deferred until the next Sessional day during the Routine Proceeding "Deferred Votes"; and
That, in the case of any division relating to any proceeding on the bill, the division bells shall be limited to five minutes.
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A debate arising, after some time, the motion was carried on the following division:- |
Un débat s'ensuit et après quelque temps, la motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:- |
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AYES / POUR - 50 |
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Arnott |
Gilchrist |
Runciman |
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Baird |
Grimmett |
Saunderson |
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Barrett |
Guzzo |
Shea |
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Beaubien |
Hardeman |
Sheehan |
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AYES / POUR - Continued
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Boushy |
Harnick |
Skarica |
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Brown |
Hudak |
Smith |
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(Scarborough West) |
Johns |
Sterling |
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Carr |
Johnson |
Stewart |
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Carroll |
(Perth) |
Tsubouchi |
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Chudleigh |
Jordan |
Turnbull |
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Danford |
Kells |
Vankoughnet |
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Doyle |
Leach |
Wettlaufer |
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Fisher |
Leadston |
Wilson |
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Flaherty |
Martiniuk |
Witmer |
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Ford |
Murdoch |
Wood |
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Fox |
Newman |
(London South) |
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Froese |
Parker |
Young |
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Galt |
Rollins |
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NAYS / CONTRE - 19 |
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Bartolucci |
Conway |
Phillips |
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Bisson |
Duncan |
Pouliot |
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Boyd |
Lankin |
Ramsay |
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Bradley |
Lessard |
Ruprecht |
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Brown |
Marchese |
Wildman |
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Martel |
Wood |
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Christopherson |
Miclash |
(Cochrane North) |
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The House then adjourned at 6:05 p.m. |
A 18 h 05, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux. |
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6:30 P.M. |
18 H 30 |
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ORDERS OF THE DAY |
ORDRE DU JOUR |
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A debate arose on the motion for Third Reading of Bill 15, An Act to cut taxes for people and for small business and to implement other measures contained in the 1998 Budget. |
Il s'élève un débat sur la motion portant troisième lecture du projet de loi 15, Loi visant à réduire les impôts des particuliers et des petites entreprises et à mettre en oeuvre d'autres mesures contenues dans le budget de 1998. |
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At 9:25 p.m., pursuant to the Order of the House of June 2, 1998, the Acting Speaker (Mr. Johnson (Perth)) interrupted the proceedings and put the question. |
À 21 h 25, conformément à l'ordre adopté par l'Assemblée le 2 juin 1998, le président par intérim, M. Johnson (Perth) interrompt les délibérations et met la question |
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The Acting Speaker declared his opinion that the Ayes had it, and a recorded vote having been demanded, |
Le président par intérim déclare qu'à son avis les voix favorables l'emportent et un vote inscrit a été exigé, |
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The Acting Speaker directed that the Members be called in, for which purpose the division bells were rung. |
Le président par intérim donne des directives pour convoquer les députés et la sonnerie d'appel est retentit à cette fin. |
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During the ringing of the bells, the Acting Speaker addressed the House as follows:- |
Pendant la sonnerie d'appel, le président par intérim s'adresse à l'Assemblée en ces mots:- |
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I have received a request from the Chief Government Whip, under Standing Order 28(h), that the vote on the motion for Third Reading of Bill 15, An Act to cut taxes for people and for small business and to implement other measures contained in the 1998 Budget be deferred until Thursday, June 25, 1998. |
J'ai reçu une requête du Whip en chef du gouvernement, conformément à l'article 28(h) du Règlement, que le vote sur la motion portant troisième lecture du Projet de loi 15, Loi visant à réduire les impôts des particuliers et des petites entreprises et à mettre en oeuvre d'autres mesures contenues dans le budget de 1998 soit différé jusqu'au jeudi 25 juin 1998. |
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Therefore the vote is accordingly deferred. |
En conséquence, le vote est différé. |
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The House then adjourned at 9:30 p.m. |
A 21 h 30, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux. |
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SESSIONAL PAPERS PRESENTED PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER 39(A):- |
DOCUMENTS PARLEMENTAIRES DÉPOSÉS CONFORMÉMENT À L'ARTICLE 39(A) DU RÈGLEMENT |
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Compendia:
Bill 48, An Act to Improve Court Services for Families by Facilitating Expansion of the Family Court and to make other amendments to the Courts of Justice Act (No. 83) (Tabled June 24, 1998).
Bill 51, An Act to amalgamate Sunnybrook Hospital and Orthopaedic and Arthritic Hospital and to transfer all assets and liabilities of Women's College Hospital to the amalgamated hospital (No. 82) (Tabled June 24, 1998).
Annual Reports / Rapports Annuel, of all ministries 1997-1998 and 1998-1999 Business Plans (No. 78) (Tabled June 24, 1998).
Occupational Disease Panel / Comité des maladies professionelles, Annual Report 1997/98 (No. 80) (Tabled June 24, 1998).
Ontario Clean Water Agency / Agence Ontarienne des Eaux, Annual Report 1997 (No. 76) (Tabled June 24, 1998).
Ontario Labour Relations Board Annual Reports 1994-95; 1995-96; 1996-1997 (No. 79) (Tabled June 24, 1998).
Workplace Safety and Insurance Board Annual Report 1997 (No. 81) (Tabled June 24, 1998).
