Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 36
Evening Meeting - Sessional Day 37
Mardi
30 mars 2004
Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 36
Séance du soir - jour de session 37
1st Session,
38th Parliament
1re session
38e législature
PRAYERS
1:30 P.M.
PRIÈRES
13 H 30
REPORTS BY
COMMITTEES
RAPPORTS DES
COMITÉS
Mr. Hoy from the Standing
Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs presented the
Committee's Report on Pre-budget Consultation 2004 and moved the
adoption of its recommendations (Sessional Paper No.
77).
M. Hoy du Comité permanent
des finances et des affaires économiques présente le
rapport du comité concernant les consultations
prébudgétaires pour 2004 et propose l'adoption de ses
recommandations (document parlementaire no
77).
Mr. Hoy then moved the
adjournment of the debate, which motion was carried on the
following division:-
Ensuite, M. Hoy propose
l'ajournement du débat et cette motion est adoptée par
le vote suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
57
Bartolucci
Bentley
Berardinetti
Bradley
Broten
Brown
Brownell
Bryant
Cansfield
Caplan
Chambers
Colle
Craitor
Crozier
Delaney
Dhillon
Dombrowsky
Duguid
Duncan
Flynn
Fonseca
Gerretsen
Gravelle
Hoy
Jeffrey
Kennedy
Kular
Lalonde
Leal
Levac
Marsales
Matthews
Mauro
McGuinty
McNeely
Meilleur
Milloy
Mitchell
Orazietti
Patten
Peters
Qaadri
Racco
Ramal
Ramsay
Rinaldi
Sandals
Smith
Smitherman
Sorbara
Takhar
Van Bommel
Watson
Wilkinson
Wong
Wynne
Zimmer
NAYS / CONTRE -
24
Arnott
Baird
Barrett
Churley
Dunlop
Eves
Hampton
Hardeman
Hudak
Jackson
Klees
Kormos
Marchese
Martel
Miller
Murdoch
O'Toole
Ouellette
Prue
Runciman
Tascona
Wilson
Witmer
Yakabuski
INTRODUCTION OF
BILLS
DÉPÔT DES PROJETS
DE LOI
The following Bill was
introduced and read the first time:-
Le projet de loi suivant est
présenté et lu une première fois:-
Bill 44, An Act to amend the
Public Transportation and Highway Improvement Act to name Highway
403 the Alexander Graham Bell Parkway. Mr. Levac.
Projet de loi 44, Loi modifiant
la Loi sur l'aménagement des voies publiques et des
transports en commun afin de nommer l'autoroute 403 promenade
Alexander Graham Bell. M. Levac.
MOTIONS
MOTIONS
Mr. Duncan moved,
M. Duncan propose,
That pursuant to Standing Order
9(c)(i), the House shall meet from 6:45 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on
Tuesday, March 30, 2004, for the purpose of considering
government business.
The question being put on the
motion, it was carried on the following division:-
La motion, mise aux voix, est
adoptée par le vote suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
77
Arnott
Arthurs
Baird
Barrett
Bartolucci
Bentley
Berardinetti
Bountrogianni
Bradley
Broten
Brown
Brownell
Bryant
Cansfield
Caplan
Chambers
Colle
Craitor
Crozier
Delaney
Dhillon
Di Cocco
Dombrowsky
Duguid
Duncan
Dunlop
Eves
Flaherty
Flynn
Fonseca
Gerretsen
Gravelle
Hardeman
Hoy
Hudak
Jackson
Jeffrey
Kennedy
Klees
Kular
Kwinter
Lalonde
Leal
Levac
Marsales
Mauro
McGuinty
McNeely
Meilleur
Miller
Milloy
Mitchell
Orazietti
O'Toole
Ouellette
Patten
Peters
Qaadri
Racco
Ramal
Ramsay
Rinaldi
Runciman
Sandals
Smith
Smitherman
Sorbara
Takhar
Tascona
Van Bommel
Watson
Wilkinson
Wilson
Witmer
Wong
Wynne
Yakabuski
NAYS / CONTRE -
7
Churley
Hampton
Kormos
Marchese
Martel
Murdoch
Prue
The Speaker addressed the House
as follows:-
I beg the indulgence of the
House to allow me to address you briefly on the matter of the
presiding role of the Speaker.
Let me first say that I have
been getting tremendous co-operation from all Members in my quest
to improve decorum in this House, and I greatly appreciate
it.
As a long-serving
parliamentarian and a keen observer of the proceedings of this
House, I have arrived at certain opinions with respect to order
and decorum and effective methods of preserving it.
While the Speaker is the servant
of the House, he also has the delicate responsibility of
maintaining order in such a way as to facilitate the business of
the House while respecting the rights of all Members.
As Erskine May notes, "it
is absolutely necessary that the Speaker should be invested with
authority to repress disorder and to give effect promptly and
decisively to the rules and orders of the House." In this regard,
the Speaker has significant powers. Among these is the power to
"name" a member. It is my view that "naming" is the most severe
disciplinary tool at my disposal and one that should be reserved
and applied as a last resort. It should be held, not only by the
Speaker, but by the House itself, as a profoundly serious
consequence of disregard for the authority of the
Chair.
It is my opinion that the Chair
has exercised the "naming" option so frequently in recent years
that its effectiveness has been eroded. In fact, at times it has
become a method of demonstration, even garnering applause from
Members themselves. When a Member is named, it should be
understood that the Speaker is exercising that option only as a
last resort and that the infraction is one that is an affront not
just to the Chair but to this institution as well.
Naming therefore has its
unfortunate place, but in somewhat less serious circumstances,
where the firm intervention of the Speaker is nevertheless still
required, I see much merit in the approach used occasionally by
Speakers of this House, and more frequently by Speakers of the
Canadian House of Commons, as set out in Marleau and Montpetit's
House of Commons Procedure and Practice, as
follows:
"If the Speaker has found it
necessary to intervene in order to call a Member to order, he or
she may then choose to recognize another Member, thus declining
to give the floor back to the offending Member. On occasion, a
Member who is called to order by the Speaker may not immediately
comply with the Speaker's instructions; in such a case, the
Speaker has given the Member time to reflect on his or her
position and upon the duty of the Chair, exercising in the
meantime the prerogative of the Chair not to "see" the Member if
he or she should rise to be recognized."
In my view, these other options,
when applied judiciously, can be more effective methods by which
to preserve order and decorum.
Recently, I have employed these
methods in this House and it is my intention to continue to do
so. "Naming" will not be my first inclination when addressing
instances of disorder. Instead, if Members will not heed my
requests, I may just move on to another Member, as the House
witnessed last week. In other cases, I may simply decline to
recognize the offending Member.
In clarifying this matter, my
purpose is to be as effective, balanced and fair as possible in
my presiding role.
Finally, I want to say that in
hindsight I recognize that it may have been prudent of me to
formally advise you of my intent at the outset, and I will
endeavour to do so in the future.
PETITIONS
PÉTITIONS
Petitions relating to protecting
rights of consumers to purchase tobacco (Sessional Paper No. P-1)
Mr. Barrett and Mr. Hardeman.
Petition relating to a landfill
at site 41 (Sessional Paper No. P-27) Mr. Dunlop.
Petition relating to
facilitating the entry of skilled and professional newcomers to
Canada into the workforce (Sessional Paper No. P-37) Mr.
Craitor.
Petition relating to improving
the Ontario Drug Benefit program and abandoning the plan to
de-list drugs or increase seniors' drug fees (Sessional Paper No.
P-53) Mr. Hudak.
Petition relating to not
eliminating or reducing the provincial drug benefits provided to
seniors (Sessional Paper No. P-54) Mr. O'Toole.
Petition relating to demanding
more health care funding from Ottawa and ending plans to de-list
drugs and implement higher user fees (Sessional Paper No. P-59)
Mr. Jackson.
Petition relating to consulting
fees received by former Premier Mike Harris from Ontario Hydro
(Sessional Paper No. P-60) Mr. Berardinetti.
Petition relating to accessing
LCBO services at the village of Baxter (Sessional Paper No. P-61)
Mr. Wilson.
ORDERS OF THE
DAY
ORDRE DU JOUR
A debate arose on the motion for
Second Reading of Bill 27, An Act to establish a greenbelt study
area and to amend the Oak Ridges Moraine Conservation Act,
2001.
Il s'élève un
débat sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet
de loi 27, Loi établissant une zone d'étude de la
ceinture de verdure et modifiant la Loi de 2001 sur la
conservation de la moraine d'Oak Ridges.
After some time, pursuant to
Standing Order 9(a), the motion for the adjournment of the debate
was deemed to have been made and carried.
Après quelque temps,
conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la
motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir
été proposée et adoptée.
The House then adjourned at 6:00
p.m.
À 18 h, la chambre a
ensuite ajourné ses travaux.
6:45 P.M.
18 H 45
ORDERS OF THE
DAY
ORDRE DU JOUR
A debate arose on the motion for
Second Reading of Bill 31, An Act to enact and amend various Acts
with respect to the protection of health information.
Il s'élève un
débat sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet
de loi 31, Loi édictant et modifiant diverses lois en ce qui
a trait à la protection des renseignements sur la
santé.
After some time, pursuant to
Standing Order 9(a), the motion for adjournment of the debate was
deemed to have been made and carried.
Après quelque temps,
conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la
motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir
été proposée et adoptée.
The House then adjourned at 9:35
p.m.
À 21 h 35, la chambre a
ensuite ajourné ses travaux.
le président
Alvin Curling
Speaker
PETITIONS TABLED PURSUANT TO
STANDING ORDER 38 (A)
Petition relating to abortion
services (Sessional Paper No. P-62) Mr. Levac.
Petition relating to prohibiting
employers from hiring replacement workers to perform the duties
of employees who are on strike or locked out (Sessional Paper No.
P-63) Mr. Levac.
Petition relating to inadequate
funding for senior's health care, assistive devices, the Ontario
Disability Support Program and accessibility to homecare
(Sessional Paper No. P-64) Mr. Fonseca.
SESSIONAL PAPERS PRESENTED
PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER 39(A):-
DOCUMENTS PARLEMENTAIRES
DÉPOSÉS CONFORMÉMENT À L'ARTICLE 39(A) DU
RÈGLEMENT