43e législature, 1re session

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43rd Parliament, 1st session


 

43e Législature, 1re session


 

Votes and Proceedings


 

Procès-verbaux


 

No. 110



 

Nº 110



 

Thursday
November 16, 2023


 

Jeudi
16 novembre 2023


 

Hon. Ted Arnott
Speaker

L'hon. Ted Arnott
le président

THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 2023
ONE HUNDRED AND TENTH DAY

JEUDI 16 NOVEMBRE 2023
CENT DIXIÈME JOUR

9:00 A.M.

Prayers

9 H

Prières

Orders of the Day

Ordres du jour

Amendment to the motion regarding taxes on fuels for home heating.

Amendement à la motion concernant les taxes sur les combustibles à chauffage résidentiel.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Hon. Paul Calandra moved,

L'hon. Paul Calandra a proposé,
That the amendment be amended by deleting everything after "remove" and replacing it with "the carbon tax on fuels and inputs for home heating".

Debate arose and after some time, the debate adjourned at 10:15 a.m.

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps, à 10 h 15, le débat était ajourné.

10:15 A.M.

10 H 15

The Speaker informed the House,

Le Président a informé l’Assemblée,

That the following document was tabled:

Que le document suivant a été déposé :

Report titled Ontario’s Credit Rating: Fall 2023 Update from the Financial Accountability Office of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 399).

Rapport intitulé La cote de crédit de l’Ontario : Mise à jour de l’automne 2023 du Bureau de la responsabilité financière de l’Ontario (Document parlementaire n° 399).

Deferred Votes

Votes différés

Second Reading of Bill 146, An Act to implement Budget measures and to enact and amend various statutes.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 146, Loi visant à mettre en oeuvre les mesures budgétaires et à édicter et à modifier diverses lois.

Carried on the following division:

Adoptée par le vote suivant :
Ayes/pour (95)
Anand Andrew Armstrong Babikian
Bailey Barnes Begum Bell
Blais Bouma Bowman Brady
Bresee Byers Calandra Clark
Coe Collard Crawford Cuzzetto
Dixon Dowie Downey Dunlop
Fedeli Fife Flack Ford (Etobicoke North)
Ford (York South—Weston) Fraser French Gallagher Murphy
Gates Gélinas Ghamari Gill
Gretzky Grewal Hardeman Harden
Harris Hazell Hogarth Holland
Jones (Chatham-Kent—Leamington) Jordan Kanapathi Karpoche
Ke Kernaghan Kerzner Khanjin
Kusendova-Bashta Leardi Lecce MacLeod
Mamakwa Martin McCarthy McCrimmon
McMahon Mulroney Pang Parsa
Pasma Pirie Quinn Rae
Rakocevic Riddell Romano Sabawy
Sandhu Sarrazin Sattler Saunderson
Schreiner Scott Shaw Skelly
Smith (Bay of Quinte) Smith (Parry Sound—Muskoka) Smith (Scarborough Centre) Smith (Thornhill)
Stiles Surma Tabuns Thanigasalam
Triantafilopoulos Vanthof Vaugeois Wai
West Williams Yakabuski  
Nays/contre (0)

Referred to the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs.

Renvoyé au Comité permanent des finances et des affaires économique.

With unanimous consent to move a motion without notice,

Avec le consentement unanime de proposé une motion sans préavis,

Stephen Blais moved,

Stephen Blais a proposé,
That, in the opinion of this House, the Government of Canada, in conjunction with the Government of Ontario, remove the Harmonized Sales Tax on fuels and inputs for home heating.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

Karen McCrimmon moved,

Karen McCrimmon a proposé,
That the motion be amended by adding at the end "for Ontario".

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

Mary-Margaret McMahon moved,

Mary-Margaret McMahon a proposé,
That the amendment be amended by adding at the end " 's families".

Debate arose and after some time, the debate adjourned at 1:00 p.m.

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps, à 13 h, le débat était ajourné.

1:00 P.M.

13 H

Reports by Committees

Rapports de comités

The Speaker informed the House,

Le Président a informé l’Assemblée,

That the Clerk received the Report on Intended Appointments dated November 16, 2023 of the Standing Committee on Government Agencies. Pursuant to Standing Order 110(f)(9), the Report is deemed to be adopted by the House (Sessional Paper No. 401).

Que le greffier a reçu le Rapport sur les nominations prévues daté le 16 novembre 2023 du Comité permanent des organismes gouvernementaux. Conformément à l’article 110 f) 9) du Règlement, le rapport est réputé adopté par l’Assemblée (Document parlementaire n° 401).

John Jordan from the Standing Committee on Social Policy reported the following Resolutions:

 

Resolved, That Supply in the following amounts and to defray the expenses of the following Ministries be granted to His Majesty for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2024:

 

Ministry of Children, Community and Social Services

701

Ministry Administration

$

94,092,300

702

Children and Adult Services

 

19,254,107,900

704

Children, Community and Social Services Capital

 

183,006,300

 

Ministry of Colleges and Universities

3001

Ministry Administration

$

15,012,000

3002

Postsecondary Education

 

7,167,552,700

3005

Research

 

317,539,100

 

Ministry of Education

1001

Ministry Administration

$

21,416,100

1002

Elementary and Secondary Education

 

29,803,229,900

1003

Community Services Information and Information Technology Cluster

 

56,232,200

1004

Child Care and Early Years Programs

 

4,685,338,700

 

Ministry of Health

1401

Ministry Administration

$

98,899,500

1402

Health Policy and Research

 

1,090,277,100

1403

Digital Health and Information Management

 

189,182,200

1405

Ontario Health Insurance

 

25,086,958,200

1406

Population and Public Health

 

1,939,299,500

1407

Health Capital

 

2,340,819,600

1412

Provincial Programs and Stewardship

 

2,879,548,100

1413

Information Systems

 

242,420,900

1416

Health Services and Programs

 

34,714,209,800

 

Ministry of Long-Term Care

4501

Ministry Administration

$

7,132,100

4502

Long-Term Care Homes

 

8,396,387,200

 

Ministry for Seniors and Accessibility

3501

Ministry Administration

$

7,564,700

3502

Policy, Program, and Strategic Partnerships

 

169,378,600

3503

Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities

 

7,932,700

Goldie Ghamari from the Standing Committee on Justice Policy reported the following Resolutions:

 

Resolved, That Supply in the following amounts and to defray the expenses of the following Ministries be granted to His Majesty for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2024:

 

Ministry of the Attorney General

301

Ministry Administration

$

327,274,100

302

Prosecuting Crime

 

350,897,400

303

Policy, Justice and Agencies

 

511,452,800

304

Legal Services

 

32,210,000

305

Court Services

 

569,988,700

306

Victims and Vulnerable Persons

 

158,018,100

307

Political Contribution Tax Credit

 

9,654,700

308

Alcohol and Gaming Commission of Ontario

 

65,129,700

 

Ministry of Francophone Affairs

1301

Francophone Affairs

$

7,731,600

 

Ministry of Indigenous Affairs

2001

Indigenous Affairs

$

132,132,600

 

Ministry of Public and Business Service Delivery

1801

Ministry Administration

$

32,354,800

1809

Enterprise Information, Privacy, Archives and Digital Delivery

 

100,877,200

1811

Enterprise Business and Financial Services

 

327,767,600

1814

ServiceOntario

 

249,740,700

1816

Consumer Services

 

17,933,900

1817

Government Services Integration Cluster

 

74,089,300

1821

Enterprise Information Technology Services

 

280,122,500

 

Ministry of the Solicitor General

2601

Ministry Administration

$

21,798,200

2603

Public Safety Division

 

437,459,600

2604

Ontario Provincial Police

 

1,499,548,800

2605

Correctional Services

 

1,089,501,800

2606

Justice Technology Services

 

96,431,500

2607

Agencies, Boards and Commissions

 

892,600

2609

Emergency Planning and Management

 

93,663,200

2610

Strategic Policy Research and Innovation

 

6,839,300

2612

Inspectorate

 

8,669,100

2614

Emergency Services Telecommunications

 

554,750,100

2615

Data Insights and Strategic Initiatives

 

6,098,300

2616

Health Services

 

28,095,200

2617

Infrastructure

 

523,169,100

Laurie Scott from the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure and Cultural Policy reported the following Resolutions:

 

Resolved, That Supply in the following amounts and to defray the expenses of the following Ministries be granted to His Majesty for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2024:

 

Ministry of Citizenship and Multiculturalism

4601

Ministry Administration

$

759,800

4602

Anti-Racism Directorate

 

27,346,900

4603

Citizenship, Inclusion and Heritage

 

35,927,500

 

Ministry of Infrastructure

4001

Ministry Administration

$

8,846,600

4003

Infrastructure Policy, Planning and Projects

 

1,737,456,500

4006

Government Real Estate

 

827,531,800

4007

Infrastructure Partnerships Projects & Agency Oversight

 

613,537,300

 

Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing

1901

Ministry Administration

$

20,327,900

1902

Municipal Services

 

48,487,400

1903

Local Government and Planning Policy

 

25,042,200

1904

Housing

 

1,354,710,100

 

Ministry of Tourism, Culture and Sport

3801

Ministry Administration

$

23,555,300

3803

Sport, Recreation and Community

 

57,814,200

3804

Tourism and Culture Capital

 

42,668,400

3805

Tourism and Culture

 

91,536,400

3806

Ontario Trillium Foundation

 

103,557,000

3808

Ontario Cultural Media Tax Credits

 

906,067,300

3811

Agency

 

223,532,300

 

Ministry of Transportation

2701

Ministry Administration

$

61,708,100

2702

Transit

 

7,523,266,000

2703

Transportation Safety

 

197,095,300

2704

Transportation Infrastructure Management

 

2,631,897,200

2705

Labour and Transportation Cluster

 

66,487,000

2706

Integrated Policy and Planning

 

27,256,600

2707

Operations

 

653,685,300

2708

Oversight and Agency Governance

 

101,920,200

Ernie Hardeman from the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs reported the following Resolutions:

 

Resolved, That Supply in the following amounts and to defray the expenses of the following Ministries and Offices be granted to His Majesty for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2024:

 

Ministry of Economic Development, Job Creation and Trade

901

Ministry Administration

$

23,140,900

902

Economic Development, Job Creation and Trade

 

1,394,537,200

 

Ministry of Finance

1201

Ministry Administration

$

34,689,700

1202

Regulatory Policy and Agency Relations

 

18,405,200

1203

Economic, Fiscal, and Financial Policy

 

369,325,900

1209

Tax, Benefits and Local Finance

 

1,180,311,100

 

Ministry of Labour, Immigration, Training and Skills Development

1601

Ministry Administration

$

22,743,400

1602

Pay Equity Commission

 

3,462,300

1603

Labour Relations

 

24,539,200

1604

Occupational Health and Safety

 

267,924,000

1605

Employment Rights and Responsibilities

 

45,094,600

1607

Employment Ontario

 

1,677,073,100

1608

Global Talent and Settlement Services

 

114,259,800

 

Cabinet Office

401

Cabinet Office

$

55,456,800

 

Office of the Premier

2401

Office of the Premier

$

2,326,800

 

Treasury Board Secretariat

3401

Ministry Administration

$

25,781,500

3402

Labour Relations and Compensation

 

85,169,300

3403

Employee and Pensioner Benefits (Employer Share)

 

1,367,000,000

3404

Treasury Board Support

 

4,065,096,400

3405

Centre for People, Culture and Talent

 

76,902,800

3409

Central Agencies Cluster

 

36,933,800

3411

Bulk Media Buy

 

51,949,200

3412

Office of the Comptroller General

 

53,479,200

3415

Emergency Management Ontario

 

64,118,600

3416

Supply Chain

 

58,887,500

Ric Bresee from the Standing Committee on the Interior reported the following Resolutions:

 

Resolved, That Supply in the following amounts and to defray the expenses of the following Ministries be granted to His Majesty for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2024: 

 

Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs

101

Ministry Administration

$

22,462,900

107

Better Public Health and Environment

 

102,093,300

              108

Strong Agriculture, Food and Bio-product Sectors and Strong Rural Communities

 

488,056,800

109

Policy Development

 

16,247,300

 

Ministry of Energy

2901

Ministry Administration

$

12,955,700

2902

Energy Development and Management

 

171,786,600

2905

Electricity Price Mitigation

 

6,516,836,600

 

Ministry of the Environment, Conservation and Parks

1101

Ministry Administration

$

66,155,200

1112

Environmental Policy

 

22,180,900

1114

Environmental Sciences and Standards

 

59,147,200

1116

Environmental Compliance and Operations

 

115,039,200

1118

Environmental Assessment and Permissions

 

31,275,500

1119

Climate Change and Resiliency

 

14,619,500

1120

Land and Water

 

122,193,800

1121

Emissions Performance Standards

 

3,000

 

Ministry of Mines

4901

Ministry Administration

$

6,012,200

4902

Mines and Minerals

 

170,026,800

 

Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry

2101

Ministry Administration

$

38,030,000

2103

Natural Resource Management

 

447,006,100

2104

Public Protection

 

203,351,600

2105

Land and Resources Information and Information Technology Cluster

 

30,911,000

 

Ministry of Northern Development

2201

Ministry Administration

$

6,518,800

2202

Northern Development

 

905,552,700

 

Introduction of Government Bills

Dépôt de projets de loi émanant du gouvernement

The following Bills were introduced and read the first time:

Les projets de loi suivants sont présentés et lus une première fois :

Bill 150, An Act to enact the Official Plan Adjustments Act, 2023 and to amend the Planning Act with respect to remedies. Hon. Paul Calandra (Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing).

Projet de loi 150, Loi édictant la Loi de 2023 sur les modifications apportées aux plans officiels et modifiant la Loi sur l'aménagement du territoire en ce qui concerne les recours. L'hon. Paul Calandra (Ministre des Affaires municipales et du Logement).

Bill 151, An Act to amend various statutes regarding infrastructure. Hon. Kinga Surma (Minister of Infrastructure).

Projet de loi 151, Loi modifiant diverses lois relatives aux infrastructures. L'hon. Kinga Surma (Ministre de l'Infrastructure).

Motions

Motions

On motion by Trevor Jones,

Sur la motion de Trevor Jones,
Ordered, That, pursuant to Standing Order 77(a), the Order for Second Reading of Bill 141, an Act respecting life leases, be discharged and the Bill be referred to the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure and Cultural Policy.

Petitions

Pétitions
No./Nº Petition title/Titre de la pétition Presented by/Présentée par
P-28 Rent control Bhutila Karpoche
P-38 ODSP Rates Bhutila Karpoche
P-38 ODSP Rates Kristyn Wong-Tam
P-58 Vulnerable road users Joel Harden
P-58 Vulnerable road users Bhutila Karpoche
P-58 Vulnerable road users Sandy Shaw
P-101 Ontario Place Bhutila Karpoche
P-139 Renewable energy and conservation technologies Bhutila Karpoche
P-139 Renewable energy and conservation technologies Kristyn Wong-Tam
P-164 Conservation of protected lands Anthony Leardi
P-165 Metrolinx Chief Executive Officer Bhutila Karpoche

Orders of the Day

Ordres du jour

Amendment to the amendment to the motion regarding taxes on fuels for home heating.

Sous-amendement à la motion concernant les taxes sur les combustibles à chauffage résidentiel.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

John Jordan moved, under Standing Order 51 “That this question be now put”.

John Jordan a proposé, conformément à l’article 51 du Règlement « Que cette question soit maintenant mise aux voix ».

Vote deferred.

Le vote est différé.

Third Reading of Bill 139, An Act to amend various Acts.

Troisième lecture du projet de loi 139, Loi modifiant diverses lois.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

Anthony Leardi moved adjournment of the debate.

Anthony Leardi a proposé l’ajournement du débat.

Carried on the following division – Ayes 49, Nays 0

Adoptée par le vote suivant – pour 49, contre 0

Second Reading of Bill 149, An Act to amend various statutes with respect to employment and labour and other matters.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 149, Loi modifiant diverses lois en ce qui conceme l’emploi, le travail et d’autres questions.

Debate arose and after some time, the debate adjourned.

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps, le débat était ajourné.

6:00 P.M.

Private Members' Public Business

18 H

Affaires d'intérêt public émanant des députées et députés

Joel Harden moved,

Joel Harden a proposé,

Second Reading of Bill 40, An Act to amend the Highway Traffic Act to provide for consequences to those who cause injury or death to certain road users.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 40, Loi modifiant le Code de la route pour prévoir les conséquences qu'encourent les personnes qui causent des blessures à certains usagers de la route ou leur décès.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Vote deferred.

Le vote est différé.

Orders of the Day

Ordres du jour

Amendment to the amendment to the motion regarding the removal of the Harmonized Sales Tax on fuels for home heating.

Sous-amendement à la motion concernant la révocation de la taxe de vente harmonisée sur les combustibles à chauffage résidentiel.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Hon. Paul Calandra moved adjournment of the debate.

L’hon. Paul Calandra a proposé l’ajournement du débat.

Carried on the following division – Ayes 42, Nays 0

Adoptée par le vote suivant – pour 42, contre 0

Third Reading of Bill 139, An Act to amend various Acts.

Troisième lecture du projet de loi 139, Loi modifiant diverses lois.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Stephanie Bowman moved adjournment of the debate.

Stephanie Bowman a proposé l’ajournement du débat.

Lost.

Rejetée.
Debate resumed and after some time, Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Stephanie Bowman moved adjournment of the House.

Stephanie Bowman a proposé l’ajournement de l’Assemblée.

Lost on the following division – Ayes 0, Nays 52

Rejetée par le vote suivant – pour 0, contre 52

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Hon. Paul Calandra moved adjournment of the debate.

L'hon. Paul Calandra a proposé l’ajournement de l’Assemblée.

Carried on the following division – Ayes 46, Nays 0

Adoptée par le vote suivant – pour 46, contre 0

Anthony Leardi moved,

Anthony Leardi a proposé,
That, in the opinion of this House, the Government of Canada should take immediate steps to eliminate the carbon tax on gasoline. 

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

Anthony Leardi moved adjournment of the debate.

Anthony Leardi a proposé l’ajournement du débat.

Carried on the following division – Ayes 44, Nays 0

Adoptée par le vote suivant – pour 44, contre 0

Second Reading of Bill 149, An Act to amend various statutes with respect to employment and labour and other matters.

Deuxième lecture du Projet de loi 149, Loi modifiant diverses lois en ce qui conceme l’emploi, le travail et d’autres questions.

Debate resumed and after some time, the debate adjourned.

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps, le débat était ajourné.

The House adjourned at 12:00 a.m.

À 00 h 00, l’Assemblée a ajourné ses travaux.

Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 43

Documents Parlementaires déposées conformément à l'article 43 du règlement
No., Suffix/Nº, Suffixe Title/Titre Date tabled/Date de dépôt
400 Ontario Northland Transportation Commission, 2022-2023 Annual Report/Commission de transport Ontario Northland, Rapport annuel 2022-2023 November 16, 2023
402 Compendia: Hon. Paul Calandra, Bill 150, An Act to enact the Official Plan Adjustments Act, 2023 and to amend the Planning Act with respect to remedies/L'hon. Paul Calandra, Projet de loi 150, Loi édictant la Loi de 2023 sur les modifications apportées aux plans officiels et modifiant la Loi sur l'aménagement du territoire en ce qui concerne les recours November 16, 2023
403 Compendia: Hon. Kinga Surma, Bill 151, An Act to amend various statutes regarding infrastructure/L'hon. Kinga Surma, Projet de loi 151, Loi modifiant diverses lois relatives aux infrastructures November 16, 2023

Responses To Written Questions

Réponses Aux Questions Écrites
No./Nº Submitted by/Présentée par Outcome/Résultat
120 Chandra Pasma Final answer tabled November 16, 2023
121 Chandra Pasma Final answer tabled November 16, 2023
122 Chandra Pasma Final answer tabled November 16, 2023
123 Chandra Pasma Final answer tabled November 16, 2023
124 Chandra Pasma Final answer tabled November 16, 2023
125 Chandra Pasma Final answer tabled November 16, 2023

Responses to Petitions

Réponses aux pétitions
No./Nº Petition title/Titre de la pétition Presented by/Présentée par Date tabled/Date de dépôt
P-101 Ontario Place Bhutila Karpoche June 7, 2023
P-131 Disabled parking fees Ted Hsu June 7, 2023
P-132 Safety in bars and restaurants Peggy Sattler June 7, 2023
  October 30, 2023
P-133 Des services et besoins des victimes d'aggression sexuelle Lucille Collard June 7, 2023
P-134 Ontario Science Centre Adil Shamji June 7, 2023