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Legislative

Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée

législative
de l’Ontario

Votes and Proceedings	Procès-verbaux
No. 136	No 136
1st Session 42nd Parliament	1re session 42e législature
Wednesday December 4, 2019	Mercredi 4 décembre 2019

9:00 A.M.

9 H

PRAYERS

PRIÈRES

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Amendment to the amendment to the motion, as amended, regarding amendments to the Standing Orders.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Ms. Hogarth moved, under Standing Order 48 “That this question be now put”.

Mme Hogarth propose, conformément à l’article 48 du Règlement « Que cette question soit maintenant mise aux voix ».

Vote deferred.

Le vote est différé.

At 9:14 a.m., the Government House Leader indicated that no further morning business would be called and therefore the House recessed.

À 9 h 14 le leader parlementaire du gouvernement a indiqué que l’ordre du jour de la séance du matin étant épuisé, la Chambre suspendait ses travaux.

10:30 A.M.

10 H 30

ORAL QUESTIONS

QUESTIONS ORALES

The Speaker informed the House,

Le Président a informé la Chambre,

That the following documents were tabled:-

Que les documents suivants ont été déposés :-

A Report concerning the review of expense claims under the Cabinet Ministers’ and Opposition Leaders’ Expenses Review and Accountability Act, 2002, for submissions received in September 2019 and complete as of December 2, 2019, from the Office of the Integrity Commissioner of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 400).

The 2019 Annual Report from the Office of the Auditor General of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 401).

Le Rapport annuel 2019 du Bureau de la vérificatrice générale de l’Ontario (Document parlementaire no 401).

DEFERRED VOTES

VOTES DIFFÉRÉS

Motion for closure on the amendment to the amendment to the motion, as amended, regarding amendments to the Standing Orders.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 61

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Barrett

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Cho (Willowdale)

Gill

Hardeman

Harris

Hogarth

Jones

Kanapathi

Karahalios

McNaughton

Miller (Parry Sound—Muskoka)

Mitas

Mulroney

Nicholls

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Simard

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

AYES / POUR - Continued

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Downey

Elliott

Fullerton

Ghamari

Khanjin

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Roberts

Romano

Sabawy

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Yakabuski

Yurek

NAYS / CONTRE - 32

Armstrong

Begum

Bell

Berns-McGown

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

Fife

Fraser

French

Gates

Glover

Gretzky

Hassan

Karpoche

Kernaghan

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Miller (Hamilton East—Stoney Creek)

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Natyshak

Rakocevic

Sattler

Schreiner

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Singh (Brampton East)

Stevens

Stiles

Yarde

The question was then put on the motion, as amended, as follows:-

La question sur la motion, telle que modifiée, a ensuite été mise aux voix, comme suite :-

Mr. Calandra moved,

M. Calandra propose,

That the Order of the House dated October 22, 2018 amending the Standing Orders be rescinded, and that the Standing Orders of the Legislative Assembly be amended as follows:

The following new Standing Order is added:

1.1 The Speaker may alter the application of any Standing or special Order or practice of the House, other than those that deal with number of times or duration of time a member may speak, the timing of proceedings or the time allotted to proceedings, in order to permit the full participation in the proceedings of the House of any member with a disability.

Standing Order 2 is amended by adding the following:

“Board of Internal Economy” means the Board of Internal Economy established by the Legislative Assembly Act.

“Orders and Notices Paper” means the paper printed and distributed on any one Sessional day.

Standing Orders 6 (a) and (b) are deleted and the following substituted:

6. (a) During a Parliament, the House shall meet:

(i) In a Spring meeting period from the Tuesday following Family Day to the first Thursday in June; and

(ii) In a Fall meeting period from the Monday following Labour Day to the second Thursday in December.

(b) During these meeting periods, the House shall not meet during the following Constituency Weeks:

(i) The week prescribed by the regulations made under the Education Act for the school holiday in March;

(ii) The week in which Easter Monday falls;

(iii) The week in which Victoria Day falls;

(iv) The week in which Thanksgiving Day falls;

(v) The week in which Remembrance Day falls, except that if Remembrance Day falls on a Saturday or a Sunday, the House shall instead not meet the week preceding Remembrance Day, nor on the Monday immediately following Remembrance Day.

(b.1) With notice, the Government House Leader may propose a motion to extend the hours of meeting during the last 18 Sessional days in the Fall and Spring sessional periods provided for in clause (a), and during any extension thereof.

Standing Order 6 is amended by adding the following clause:

(c.1) At any time prior to the commencement of an evening meeting scheduled pursuant to this Standing Order, the Government House Leader may indicate to the House that the evening meeting is no longer required, and it shall thereupon be cancelled.

Standing Order 8 (a) is deleted and the following substituted:

8. (a) The weekly meeting schedule for the House when it is in session shall be:

DAY	TIME	PROCEEDING
Monday	10:15 a.m.	Morning Routine: Members’ Statements Introduction of Visitors Question Period Deferred Votes
	10:15 a.m.
	Following Morning Routine	Recess
	1:00 p.m.	Afternoon Routine: Introduction of Visitors Reports by Committees Introduction of Bills Statements by the Ministry and Responses Motions Petitions
	Following Afternoon Routine	Orders of the Day
	6:00 p.m.	Adjournment
Tuesday	9:00 a.m.	Orders of the Day
	10:15 a.m.	Morning Routine: Members’ Statements Introduction of Visitors Question Period Deferred Votes
	Following Morning Routine	Recess
	3:00 p.m.	Afternoon Routine: Introduction of Visitors Reports by Committees Introduction of Bills Statements by the Ministry and Responses Motions Petitions

	Following Afternoon Routine	Orders of the Day
	6:00 p.m.	Adjournment
Wednesday	9:00 a.m.	Orders of the Day
	10:15 a.m.	Morning Routine: Members’ Statements Introduction of Visitors Question Period Deferred Votes
	Following Morning Routine	Recess
	3:00 p.m.	Afternoon Routine: Introduction of Visitors Reports by Committees Introduction of Bills Statements by the Ministry and Responses Motions Petitions
	Following Afternoon Routine	Orders of the Day
	6:00 p.m.	Adjournment
Thursday	9:00 a.m.	Orders of the Day
	10:15 a.m.	Morning Routine: Members’ Statements Introduction of Visitors Question Period Deferred Votes
	Following Morning Routine	Recess
	1:00 p.m.	Afternoon Routine: Introduction of Visitors Reports by Committees Introduction of Bills Statements by the Ministry and Responses Motions Petitions
	Following Afternoon Routine	Private Members’ Public Business
	Following Private Members’ Public Business	Orders of the Day
	6:00 p.m.	Adjournment

Standing Order 8 (b) is amended by deleting “and at 10:25 a.m. every day”.

Standing Order 8 is amended by adding the following clause:

(c.1) Following Prayers on the first sitting Monday of each month, the Canadian National Anthem and the Royal Anthem shall be sung in the Chamber.

Standing Order 8 (d) is deleted and the following substituted:

(d) When the Speaker calls Orders of the Day the Government House Leader may indicate that no business, or no further business, as the case may be, is to be called, whereupon the Speaker shall recess the House to the next daily proceeding, or adjourn the House to the next sessional day, as the case may be.

Standing Order 8 (e) is amended by deleting “3:15” and substituting “4:00” and by deleting “10:30” and substituting “10:15”.

Standing Order 9 (c) is amended by deleting the words “the House or”.

The following new Standing Order is added:

20.1 The use of laptops, tablets and smartphones is permitted in the Chamber and committee rooms provided they are operated silently, do not impair decorum and are not used as a telephone, recording device, camera or prop.

Standing Order 25 is amended by deleting the first paragraph and substituting the following:

25. Following the speech of each member, 10 minutes will be allotted for members to ask questions on matters relevant to the speech. A member may ask a question for up to 1 minute and the member originally speaking will then have up to 1 minute to reply, in the following circumstances:

Standing Orders 25 (a), (b), (c) and (d) are amended by deleting the words “and comments” in each clause.

Standing Order 28 (i) is amended by deleting the words “for closure” and substituting “subject to Standing Order 9 (c), for closure”.

The heading of Section VIII. is renamed “DAILY ROUTINE”.

Standing Order 30 is deleted and the following substituted:

(a) The proceedings in the Morning and Afternoon Routine shall be conducted at the times and in the order set out in Standing Order 8 (a).

(b) The time allotted for the Afternoon Routine each day shall not exceed 90 minutes. At the end of that time the Speaker shall interrupt and shall put every question necessary to dispose of the proceeding currently occupying the House, and thereafter immediately call Orders of the Day.

Standing Order 33 (c) is amended by deleting the second line.

Standing Order 36 is deleted and the following substituted:

36. Up to five minutes shall be allotted during both the Morning and Afternoon Routine for members to recognize guests. Members may introduce visitors by stating only their name, title, organization and/or riding. No member shall seek to introduce a visitor at any time by way of a point of order.

Standing Orders 37 (e) through (i) are deleted and the following substituted:

(e) Any member of the Executive Council or any Parliamentary Assistant may respond to any question during Question Period and may, in their discretion, decline to answer any question.

(f) Parliamentary assistants may direct questions only to ministers other than their own.

(g) The Speaker has the discretion to permit an independent member to place a question and one supplementary question during Question Period. In exercising his or her discretion, the Speaker shall have regard to the opportunities that members of recognized Parties, other than the Leaders of Opposition Parties or members who place questions instead of the Leaders, have to place such questions.

The following new Standing Order is added:

38.1 Any divisions deferred under Standing Orders 9 (c) or 28 (h) shall be disposed of consecutively during this time and the bells shall be rung for 5 minutes prior to each division.

Standing Order 40 (b) is amended by adding at the end, “and such distribution may be done electronically”.

Standing Order 42(a) is deleted and the following substituted:

(a) There shall be 12 hours allotted to the debate on the motion for an Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne and any amendments thereto, at the end of which time the Speaker shall without further debate or amendment put every question necessary to dispose of the motion.

(a.1) The debate on the motion for an Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne shall be completed before the presentation of the Budget.

Standing Order 46(a) is amended by deleting all the words following “interrupt the bell,” and substituting “deem the debate to be adjourned and call the next proceeding pursuant to Standing Order 8 (a).”

Standing Order 47 (c) is deleted and the following substituted:

(c) A time allocation motion may not be moved until second reading debate has been completed or 6 ½ hours of debate have taken place on second reading consideration of any government bill or on a substantive government motion. Upon completion of 6 ½ hours of debate, the Speaker shall deem the debate to be adjourned unless the Government House Leader directs the debate to continue.

Standing Order 47 (d) is deleted and the following substituted:

(d) A bill, and a time allocation motion applying to that same bill, may not be considered on the same calendar day.

Standing Order 48 is amended by adding at the end, “Except as provided by Standing Order 9 (c), the vote on a motion for closure shall not be deferred.”

Standing Order 54 is amended by deleting the word “Government”.

Standing Orders 60 (a), (b) and (c) are deleted and the following substituted:

60. (a) The Standing Committee on Estimates shall select for consideration the Estimates of not fewer than six and not more than 12 ministries and offices.

(b) (i) The Estimates of the ministries and offices to be considered by the Committee shall be selected by members of the Committee such that the members of the Party forming the Official Opposition shall select first, followed by the members of the other recognized Parties in order of their representation in the House, and the members of the Party forming the government shall select last.

(ii) With each turn, the members of each Party may choose the Estimates of one or two ministries or offices to be considered.

(iii) If, when their turn to select occurs, the members of one Party decline to make a selection, the selection passes to the members of the next party in the rotation as provided in (i).

Standing Order 60 (d) is amended by deleting the word “round” and substituting the word “turn” in each instance.

Standing Order 69 is amended by deleting the words “up to one member from each of the recognized Parties, and by any independent member” and substituting “up to four private members of the House”.

Standing Order 71 (a) is amended by deleting the words “and distributed and marked PRINTED on the Orders and Notices Paper”.

Standing Order 71 (b) is amended by deleting “12:00 noon” and substituting “8:30 a.m.” in each instance.

Standing Order 79 (b) is amended by deleting the words “and marked REPRINTED on the Orders and Notices Paper”.

Standing Order 81 (c) is deleted.

Standing Order 98 (a) is amended by deleting the first line and the substituting the following:

Three items of Private Members’ Public Business shall be considered each Thursday, and the time provided for each shall be allotted as follows:

Standing Order 98 (e) is deleted.

Standing Order 136 is deleted.

Standing Order 137 (a) is amended by deleting the words “placed on the Speaker’s Table and on the desk of each member a copy of” and substituting “published”.

The following new Standing Order is added:

146. For greater certainty, the proceedings of the Board of Internal Economy are proceedings in Parliament.

And that for the duration of the 42nd Parliament the Standing Orders of the Legislative Assembly be amended as follows:

Standing Order 35 (e) is amended by adding at the end “and an independent member or members may comment for up to a total of 5 minutes.”

Standing Order 43 (a)(iv) is deleted and the following substituted:

(a)(iv) shall be taken up upon the commencement of Orders of the Day in the afternoon on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday, as the case may be, the time available being apportioned equally among the recognized Parties in the House, after first allotting time to the independent member(s) of the House, if any; the time for a reply by the mover of the motion shall be included in the time apportioned to the Party of which the mover is a member;

(iv.1) the time allotted to independent members referred to in (iv) shall be 3 minutes per independent member up to a maximum of 12 minutes, which may be shared among the independent members;

Standing Order 47(b) is deleted and the following substituted:

47 (b) Two hours shall be allotted to the debate, apportioned equally among the recognized Parties, after first allotting time to the independent member(s) of the House, if any. At the end of this time the Speaker shall without further debate or amendment put every question necessary to dispose of the motion. If a recorded vote is requested by five members, the division bells shall be limited to 10 minutes.

(b.1) The time allotted to independent members referred to in (b) shall be 3 minutes per independent member up to a maximum of 12 minutes which may be shared among the independent members.

Standing Order 66 (a) is deleted and the following substituted:

66 (a) On the first Item of the first Vote of each set of Estimates, a representative of each recognized Party may speak for not more than 30 minutes and the minister or person answerable for the Estimates is allowed not more than 30 minutes for a right of reply. Thereafter, the Chair of the Standing Committee on Estimates shall ensure that the members adhere strictly to the Vote and Item under consideration and shall apportion the remaining time among the recognized Parties after first allotting time to the independent member(s) on the Committee, if any.

66 (a.1) the time allotted to independent member(s) referred to in (a) shall be 15 minutes.

Standing Order 113 (e) is amended by adding the following at the end:

In the case of independent members, the notification must be signed by the independent permanent member and the independent substituting member. If a committee meeting is divided into morning and afternoon segments on the same sitting day, this clause applies to each segment individually.

And, that the Clerk is authorized to re-number Standing Orders 30 to 39 and to order them as the daily routine proceedings are set out in Standing Order 8 (a), and to make such other consequential, editorial or other minor changes as may be required to ensure a consistent form of expression throughout the Standing Orders; and

That in exercising his discretion under Standing Orders 31 (c), 37 (i) and 98 (a)(iv) the Speaker shall recognize independent members for the duration of the 42nd Parliament as follows:

• During Members’ Statements: one per day

• During Oral Questions: two questions per day, each followed by one supplementary

• During Private Members’ Public Business: 5 minutes for each item of business, which may be shared.

And that the terms of this motion shall come into force at 12:01 a.m. on Tuesday, February 18, 2020.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 63

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Barrett

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Cho (Willowdale)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Ghamari

Gill

Hardeman

Harris

Hogarth

Jones

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Khanjin

Kusendova

McNaughton

Miller (Parry Sound—Muskoka)

Mitas

Mulroney

Nicholls

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Sarkaria

Schreiner

Simard

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

AYES / POUR - Continued

Cuzzeto

Downey

Elliott

Fraser

Fullerton

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

Rasheed

Roberts

Romano

Sabawy

Sandhu

Wai

Walker

Yakabuski

Yurek

NAYS / CONTRE - 30

Armstrong

Begum

Bell

Berns-McGown

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

Fife

French

Gates

Glover

Gretzky

Hassan

Karpoche

Kernaghan

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Miller (Hamilton East—Stoney Creek)

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Natyshak

Rakocevic

Sattler

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Singh (Brampton East)

Stevens

Stiles

Yarde

Ordered, That the Order of the House dated October 22, 2018 amending the Standing Orders be rescinded, and that the Standing Orders of the Legislative Assembly be amended as follows:

The following new Standing Order is added:

Standing Order 2 is amended by adding the following:

“Board of Internal Economy” means the Board of Internal Economy established by the Legislative Assembly Act.

“Orders and Notices Paper” means the paper printed and distributed on any one Sessional day.

Standing Orders 6 (a) and (b) are deleted and the following substituted:

6. (a) During a Parliament, the House shall meet:

(i) In a Spring meeting period from the Tuesday following Family Day to the first Thursday in June; and

(ii) In a Fall meeting period from the Monday following Labour Day to the second Thursday in December.

(b) During these meeting periods, the House shall not meet during the following Constituency Weeks:

(i) The week prescribed by the regulations made under the Education Act for the school holiday in March;

(ii) The week in which Easter Monday falls;

(iii) The week in which Victoria Day falls;

(iv) The week in which Thanksgiving Day falls;

Standing Order 6 is amended by adding the following clause:

Standing Order 8 (a) is deleted and the following substituted:

8. (a) The weekly meeting schedule for the House when it is in session shall be:

DAY	TIME	PROCEEDING
Monday	10:15 a.m.	Morning Routine: Members’ Statements Introduction of Visitors Question Period Deferred Votes
	10:15 a.m.
	Following Morning Routine	Recess
	1:00 p.m.	Afternoon Routine: Introduction of Visitors Reports by Committees Introduction of Bills Statements by the Ministry and Responses Motions Petitions
	Following Afternoon Routine	Orders of the Day
	6:00 p.m.	Adjournment
Tuesday	9:00 a.m.	Orders of the Day
	10:15 a.m.	Morning Routine: Members’ Statements Introduction of Visitors Question Period Deferred Votes
	Following Morning Routine	Recess
	3:00 p.m.	Afternoon Routine: Introduction of Visitors Reports by Committees Introduction of Bills Statements by the Ministry and Responses Motions Petitions

	Following Afternoon Routine	Orders of the Day
	6:00 p.m.	Adjournment
Wednesday	9:00 a.m.	Orders of the Day
	10:15 a.m.	Morning Routine: Members’ Statements Introduction of Visitors Question Period Deferred Votes
	Following Morning Routine	Recess
	3:00 p.m.	Afternoon Routine: Introduction of Visitors Reports by Committees Introduction of Bills Statements by the Ministry and Responses Motions Petitions
	Following Afternoon Routine	Orders of the Day
	6:00 p.m.	Adjournment
Thursday	9:00 a.m.	Orders of the Day
	10:15 a.m.	Morning Routine: Members’ Statements Introduction of Visitors Question Period Deferred Votes
	Following Morning Routine	Recess
	1:00 p.m.	Afternoon Routine: Introduction of Visitors Reports by Committees Introduction of Bills Statements by the Ministry and Responses Motions Petitions
	Following Afternoon Routine	Private Members’ Public Business
	Following Private Members’ Public Business	Orders of the Day
	6:00 p.m.	Adjournment