No. 249 No 249
Votes and Proceedings |
Procès-verbaux |
Legislative Assembly of Ontario |
Assemblée législative de l'Ontario |
1st Session, 36th Parliament |
1re session, 36e législature |
Monday, November 24, 1997 |
Lundi 24 novembre 1997 |
PRAYERS 1:30 P.M. |
PRIÈRES 13 H 30 |
The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-
Standing Order 62(a) provides that "the Standing Committee on Estimates shall present one report with respect to all of the Estimates and Supplementary Estimates considered pursuant to Standing Orders 59 and 61 no later than the third Thursday in November of each calendar year".
The House not having received a report from the Standing Committee on Estimates for certain ministries on Thursday, 20 November 1997, as required by the Standing Orders of this House, pursuant to Standing Order 62(b) the Estimates and Supplementary Estimates before the Committee, of the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of the Attorney General, the Ministry of Education and Training, the Ministry of Transportation, the Ministry of Citizenship, Culture and Recreation, the Ministry of Environment and Energy and the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs are deemed to be passed by the Committee and are deemed to be reported to and received by the House.
Accordingly, the Estimates and Supplementary Estimates (1997-1998) of the following ministries were deemed to be passed by the Standing Committee on Estimates and were deemed to be reported to and received by the House:-
MINISTRY OF HEALTH
(SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES ONLY)
1405 Population Health and Community Services $ 106,229,300
MINISTRY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
(SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES ONLY)
304 Legal Services to Crown $ 1,170,400
305 Courts Administration $ 6,814,300
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND TRAINING
(SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES ONLY)
1003 Postsecondary Education $ 71,991,300
MINISTRY OF TRANSPORTATION
2701 Ministry Administration $ 40,422,200
2702 Policy and Planning $ 15,820,500
2703 Safety and Regulation $ 128,425,900
2704 Delivery $ 2,140,425,300
SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES
2704 Delivery $ 26,611,200
MINISTRY OF CITIZENSHIP, CULTURE AND RECREATION
601 Ministry Administration $ 20,326,600
602 Citizenship, Culture and Recreation Services $ 248,389,000
MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY
1101 Ministry Administration $ 36,997,600
1102 Environmental and Energy Services $ 43,306,500
1103 Environmental Control $ 84,547,700
1104 Utility Planning $ 184,896,000
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE, FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS
101 Ministry Administration $ 18,840,000
102 Agricultural Services and Rural Affairs $ 51,084,200
103 Food Industry $ 20,450,200
104 Education, Research and Laboratory Services $ 62,417,100
105 Policy and Farm Finance $ 267,308,600
REPORTS BY COMMITTEES |
RAPPORTS DES COMITÉS |
Mr Bartolucci from the Standing Committee on Estimates presented the Committee's report as follows:-
Pursuant to Standing Order 61(c), the Supplementary Estimates (1997-1998) of the following ministries and offices not selected for consideration are deemed passed by the Committee and reported to the House in accordance with the terms of the Standing Order and deemed to be received and concurred in:-
MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL SERVICES
702 Adults' and Children's Services $ 199,530,000
MINISTRY OF FINANCE
1204 Fiscal and Financial Policy $ 900,000,000
1207 Property Assessment $ 21,228,300
MANAGEMENT BOARD SECRETARIAT
1803 Business Services and Corporate Controllership $ 30,000,000
MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING
1904 Social Housing $ 215,892,800
INTRODUCTION OF BILLS |
DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI |
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time:- |
Le projet de loi suivant est présenté et lu une première fois:- |
Bill 163, An Act to amend the Ontario Lottery Corporation Act. Mr G. Morin |
Projet de loi 163, Loi modifiant la Loi sur la Société des loteries de l'Ontario. M. G. Morin. |
MOTIONS |
MOTIONS |
On motion by Mr Sterling, |
Sur la motion de M. Sterling, |
Ordered, That, pursuant to Standing Order 9(c), the House shall meet from 6:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on November 24, 25, 26, 1997 and December 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10 and 11, 1997 for the purpose of considering government business.
On motion by Mr Sterling, |
Sur la motion de M. Sterling, |
Ordered, That the following substitutions be made to the membership of the following Standing Committees:-
Standing Committee on Administration of Justice
Mr Ouellette for Mr Flaherty
Mr Stewart for Mr Guzzo
Standing Committee on Estimates
Mr Young for Mr Grimmett
Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs
Mr Guzzo for Mr Young
Mr Baird for Ms Bassett
Standing Committee on General Government
Mr O'Toole for Mr Tilson
Standing Committee on Government Agencies
Mr Grimmett for Mr Baird
Standing Committee on the Legislative Assembly
Mrs Mushinski for Mr Clement
Standing Committee on the Ombudsman
Mr Beaubien for Mr O'Toole
Standing Committee on Public Accounts
Mr Young for Mr Grimmett
Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills
Mr Boushy for Mr Beaubien
Standing Committee on Resources Development
Mr Preston for Mr Ouellette
Standing Committee on Social Development
Mr Parker for Mr O'Toole
PETITIONS |
PÉTITIONS |
Petition relating to Stopping the Funding of Abortions (Sessional Paper No. P-93) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr D. Boushy.
Petition relating to Support for all current forms of black bear hunting (Sessional Paper No. P-275) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr B. Wildman.
Petition relating to Marilyn Manson (Sessional Paper No. P-312) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr J. Baird.
Petitions relating to Bill 160, Education Quality Improvement Act, 1997 (Sessional Paper No. P-321) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Ms A. Castrilli, Mr J. Cleary, Mr D. Duncan and Mrs L. McLeod.
Petition relating to Holding a province-wide referendum on Bill 160 (Sessional Paper No. P-329) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mrs L. McLeod.
Pétition ayant rapport à la Loi de 1997 sur l'amélioration de la qualité de l'éducation (Sessional Paper No. P-330) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr G. Morin.
Petition relating to Supporting Bill 160, Education Quality Improvement Act, 1997 (Sessional Paper No. P-331) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr R. Johnson (Brantford).
ORDERS OF THE DAY |
ORDRE DU JOUR |
Opposition Day |
Jour de l'opposition |
With unanimous consent, in the absence of Mr McGuinty, Mrs McLeod moved, |
Avec le consentement unanime, en l'absence de M. McGuinty, Mme McLeod propose, |
Whereas education is our future and whereas Bill 160 and funding cuts will compromise that future; and
Whereas the parents, teachers and students of Ontario have shown the government that they will not allow their futures to be sacrificed for tax cuts and will not allow the Government to bankrupt Ontario's Education system; and
Whereas you cannot improve achievement by lowering standards, cutting any more money from the education system or removing thousands of teachers from our schools and whereas, students, parents, teachers want re-investment in Education rather than a reduction in funding; and
Whereas, Ontario Liberal Leader Dalton McGuinty has pledged to repeal Bill 160 and restore partnership in education;
Therefore, be it resolved that
this legislature recognize that teachers play the most important role in our children's formal education; and
this legislature calls on the Minister of Education, the Premier and the Cabinet to back away from their plan to cut any more money from our schools and our children's education; and
this legislature supports the Education Improvement Commission's finding that no more money should be cut from education and that any savings which can be found should be immediately re-invested into our schools; and
this legislature understands that firing thousands of teachers and removing millions of dollars will increase class sizes, eliminate programs and reduce contact time between teachers and students, therefore destroying quality education rather than improving it; and
this legislature believes a quality education is more important than a tax cut; and
this legislature instruct the Minister of Education and Training to withdraw Bill 160.
A debate arising, after some time, the motion was lost on the following division:- |
Un débat s'ensuit et après quelque temps, la motion est rejetée par le vote suivant:- |
AYES / POUR - 35
Agostino Crozier McGuinty
Bartolucci Cullen McLeod
Bisson Curling Miclash
Bradley Duncan Morin
Brown Gerretsen Phillips
(Algoma-Manitoulin) Grandmaître Pouliot
Caplan Hampton Pupatello
Christopherson Hoy Silipo
Churley Kormos Wildman
Cleary Kwinter Wood
Colle Lalonde (Cochrane North)
Conway Lessard
Cordiano Martin
NAYS / CONTRE - 64
Arnott Hastings Parker
Barrett Hodgson Preston
Beaubien Jackson Rollins
Boushy Johns Ross
Brown Johnson Runciman
(Scarborough West) (Brantford) Saunderson
Carr Johnson Shea
Chudleigh (Don Mills) Sheehan
Cunningham Johnson Skarica
Danford (Perth) Smith
Doyle Leach Snobelen
Ecker Leadston Spina
Elliott Marland Sterling
Eves Martiniuk Stewart
Fisher Maves Tsubouchi
Flaherty McLean Turnbull
Fox Munro Vankoughnet
Froese Murdoch Wettlaufer
Galt Mushinski Wilson
Gilchrist Newman Witmer
Grimmett O'Toole Wood
Guzzo Ouellette (London South)
Harnick Palladini Young
The House then adjourned at 6:05 p.m. |
À 18 h 05, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux. |
6:30 P.M. |
18 H 30 |
Debate was resumed on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 161, An Act to provide fairness for parents and employees by providing remedies relating to the province-wide withdrawal of services by teachers between October 27 and November 7, 1997 and to make a complementary amendment to the Education Act. |
Le débat reprend sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 161, Loi favorisant le traitement équitable des parents et des employés en prévoyant des recours à la suite du retrait de services par les enseignants à l'échelle de la province entre le 27 octobre et le 7 novembre 1997 et apportant une modification complémentaire à la Loi sur l'éducation. |
After some time, pursuant to Standing Order 9(a), the motion for the adjournment of the debate was deemed to have been made and carried. |
Après quelque temps, conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir été proposée et adoptée. |
The House then adjourned at 9:30 p.m. |
À 21 h 30, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux. |
le président
Christopher M. Stockwell
Speaker
Petition tabled pursuant to Standing Order 38(a)
Petition relating to Bill 160, Education Quality Improvement Act, 1997 (Sessional Paper No. P-321) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr C. Defaria.