Legislative Assembly of Ontario

No. 249 N^o 249

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly of Ontario

Assemblée législative de l'Ontario

1st Session, 36th Parliament

1re session, 36e législature

Monday, November 24, 1997

Lundi 24 novembre 1997

PRAYERS 1:30 P.M.

PRIÈRES 13 H 30

The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-

Standing Order 62(a) provides that "the Standing Committee on Estimates shall present one report with respect to all of the Estimates and Supplementary Estimates considered pursuant to Standing Orders 59 and 61 no later than the third Thursday in November of each calendar year".

The House not having received a report from the Standing Committee on Estimates for certain ministries on Thursday, 20 November 1997, as required by the Standing Orders of this House, pursuant to Standing Order 62(b) the Estimates and Supplementary Estimates before the Committee, of the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of the Attorney General, the Ministry of Education and Training, the Ministry of Transportation, the Ministry of Citizenship, Culture and Recreation, the Ministry of Environment and Energy and the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs are deemed to be passed by the Committee and are deemed to be reported to and received by the House.

Accordingly, the Estimates and Supplementary Estimates (1997-1998) of the following ministries were deemed to be passed by the Standing Committee on Estimates and were deemed to be reported to and received by the House:-

MINISTRY OF HEALTH

(SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES ONLY)

MINISTRY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

(SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES ONLY)

MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND TRAINING

(SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES ONLY)

MINISTRY OF TRANSPORTATION

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES

MINISTRY OF CITIZENSHIP, CULTURE AND RECREATION

MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY

MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE, FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS

REPORTS BY COMMITTEES

RAPPORTS DES COMITÉS

Mr Bartolucci from the Standing Committee on Estimates presented the Committee's report as follows:-

Pursuant to Standing Order 61(c), the Supplementary Estimates (1997-1998) of the following ministries and offices not selected for consideration are deemed passed by the Committee and reported to the House in accordance with the terms of the Standing Order and deemed to be received and concurred in:-

MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL SERVICES

MINISTRY OF FINANCE

MANAGEMENT BOARD SECRETARIAT

MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI

The following Bill was introduced and read the first time:-	Le projet de loi suivant est présenté et lu une première fois:-
Bill 163, An Act to amend the Ontario Lottery Corporation Act. Mr G. Morin	Projet de loi 163, Loi modifiant la Loi sur la Société des loteries de l'Ontario. M. G. Morin.

MOTIONS

MOTIONS

On motion by Mr Sterling,

Sur la motion de M. Sterling,

Ordered, That, pursuant to Standing Order 9(c), the House shall meet from 6:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on November 24, 25, 26, 1997 and December 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10 and 11, 1997 for the purpose of considering government business.

On motion by Mr Sterling,

Sur la motion de M. Sterling,

Ordered, That the following substitutions be made to the membership of the following Standing Committees:-

Standing Committee on Administration of Justice

Mr Ouellette for Mr Flaherty

Mr Stewart for Mr Guzzo

Standing Committee on Estimates

Mr Young for Mr Grimmett

Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs

Mr Guzzo for Mr Young

Mr Baird for Ms Bassett

Standing Committee on General Government

Mr O'Toole for Mr Tilson

Standing Committee on Government Agencies

Mr Grimmett for Mr Baird

Standing Committee on the Legislative Assembly

Mrs Mushinski for Mr Clement

Standing Committee on the Ombudsman

Mr Beaubien for Mr O'Toole

Standing Committee on Public Accounts

Mr Young for Mr Grimmett

Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills

Mr Boushy for Mr Beaubien

Standing Committee on Resources Development

Mr Preston for Mr Ouellette

Standing Committee on Social Development

Mr Parker for Mr O'Toole

PETITIONS

PÉTITIONS

Petition relating to Stopping the Funding of Abortions (Sessional Paper No. P-93) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr D. Boushy.

Petition relating to Support for all current forms of black bear hunting (Sessional Paper No. P-275) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr B. Wildman.

Petition relating to Marilyn Manson (Sessional Paper No. P-312) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr J. Baird.

Petitions relating to Bill 160, Education Quality Improvement Act, 1997 (Sessional Paper No. P-321) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Ms A. Castrilli, Mr J. Cleary, Mr D. Duncan and Mrs L. McLeod.

Petition relating to Holding a province-wide referendum on Bill 160 (Sessional Paper No. P-329) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mrs L. McLeod.

Pétition ayant rapport à la Loi de 1997 sur l'amélioration de la qualité de l'éducation (Sessional Paper No. P-330) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr G. Morin.

Petition relating to Supporting Bill 160, Education Quality Improvement Act, 1997 (Sessional Paper No. P-331) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr R. Johnson (Brantford).

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Opposition Day

Jour de l'opposition

With unanimous consent, in the absence of Mr McGuinty, Mrs McLeod moved,

Avec le consentement unanime, en l'absence de M. McGuinty, Mme McLeod propose,

Whereas education is our future and whereas Bill 160 and funding cuts will compromise that future; and

Whereas the parents, teachers and students of Ontario have shown the government that they will not allow their futures to be sacrificed for tax cuts and will not allow the Government to bankrupt Ontario's Education system; and

Whereas you cannot improve achievement by lowering standards, cutting any more money from the education system or removing thousands of teachers from our schools and whereas, students, parents, teachers want re-investment in Education rather than a reduction in funding; and

Whereas, Ontario Liberal Leader Dalton McGuinty has pledged to repeal Bill 160 and restore partnership in education;

Therefore, be it resolved that

this legislature recognize that teachers play the most important role in our children's formal education; and

this legislature calls on the Minister of Education, the Premier and the Cabinet to back away from their plan to cut any more money from our schools and our children's education; and

this legislature supports the Education Improvement Commission's finding that no more money should be cut from education and that any savings which can be found should be immediately re-invested into our schools; and

this legislature understands that firing thousands of teachers and removing millions of dollars will increase class sizes, eliminate programs and reduce contact time between teachers and students, therefore destroying quality education rather than improving it; and

this legislature believes a quality education is more important than a tax cut; and

this legislature instruct the Minister of Education and Training to withdraw Bill 160.

A debate arising, after some time, the motion was lost on the following division:-

Un débat s'ensuit et après quelque temps, la motion est rejetée par le vote suivant:-

Agostino Crozier McGuinty

Bartolucci Cullen McLeod

Bisson Curling Miclash

Bradley Duncan Morin

Brown Gerretsen Phillips

(Algoma-Manitoulin) Grandmaître Pouliot

Caplan Hampton Pupatello

Christopherson Hoy Silipo

Churley Kormos Wildman

Cleary Kwinter Wood

Colle Lalonde (Cochrane North)

Conway Lessard

Cordiano Martin

Arnott Hastings Parker

Barrett Hodgson Preston

Beaubien Jackson Rollins

Boushy Johns Ross

Brown Johnson Runciman

(Scarborough West) (Brantford) Saunderson

Carr Johnson Shea

Chudleigh (Don Mills) Sheehan

Cunningham Johnson Skarica

Danford (Perth) Smith

Doyle Leach Snobelen

Ecker Leadston Spina

Elliott Marland Sterling

Eves Martiniuk Stewart

Fisher Maves Tsubouchi

Flaherty McLean Turnbull

Fox Munro Vankoughnet

Froese Murdoch Wettlaufer

Galt Mushinski Wilson

Gilchrist Newman Witmer

Grimmett O'Toole Wood

Guzzo Ouellette (London South)

Harnick Palladini Young

The House then adjourned at 6:05 p.m.

À 18 h 05, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

6:30 P.M.

18 H 30

Debate was resumed on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 161, An Act to provide fairness for parents and employees by providing remedies relating to the province-wide withdrawal of services by teachers between October 27 and November 7, 1997 and to make a complementary amendment to the Education Act.

Le débat reprend sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 161, Loi favorisant le traitement équitable des parents et des employés en prévoyant des recours à la suite du retrait de services par les enseignants à l'échelle de la province entre le 27 octobre et le 7 novembre 1997 et apportant une modification complémentaire à la Loi sur l'éducation.

After some time, pursuant to Standing Order 9(a), the motion for the adjournment of the debate was deemed to have been made and carried.

Après quelque temps, conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir été proposée et adoptée.

The House then adjourned at 9:30 p.m.

À 21 h 30, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

Petition relating to Bill 160, Education Quality Improvement Act, 1997 (Sessional Paper No. P-321) (Tabled November 24, 1997) Mr C. Defaria.