36e législature, 1re session

No. 225 No 225

Votes and

Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly

of Ontario

Assemblée législative

de l'Ontario

1st Session,

36th Parliament

1re session,

36e législature

Monday,

September 8, 1997

Lundi

8 septembre 1997

PRAYERS

1:30 P.M.

PRIÈRES

13 H 30

REPORTS BY COMMITTEES

RAPPORTS DES COMITÉS

Mr Tilson from the Standing Committee on General Government presented the Committee's report as follows and moved its adoption:-

M. Tilson du Comité permanent des affaires gouvernementales présente le rapport du comité et propose l'adoption comme suit:-

Your Committee begs to report the following Bill as amended:-

Votre comité propose qu'il soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant avec des amendements

Bill 96, An Act to Consolidate and Revise the Law with respect to Residential Tenancies.

Projet de loi 96, Loi codifiant et révisant le droit de la location à usage d'habitation.

The motion having been put, was carried on the following division:-

La motion, mise aux voix, est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 45

Baird Gilchrist Sampson

Beaubien Hodgson Shea

Boushy Johns Sheehan

Brown Johnson Snobelen

(Scarborough West) (Don Mills) Sterling

Chudleigh Kells Stewart

Cunningham Klees Tilson

Danford Mushinski Tsubouchi

Doyle Newman Turnbull

Ecker O'Toole Villeneuve

Elliott Ouellette Wettlaufer

Flaherty Parker Wilson

Ford Pettit Witmer

Fox Preston Wood

Froese Ross (London South)

Galt Runciman Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 33

Agostino Cordiano Martel

Bartolucci Curling Martin

Bisson Duncan McLeod

Boyd Gerretsen Morin

Bradley Grandmaître North

Brown Gravelle Patten

(Algoma-Manitoulin) Hoy Phillips

Castrilli Kormos Pouliot

Christopherson Kwinter Silipo

NAYS / CONTRE - Continued

Churley Lankin Wildman

Cleary Laughren

Colle Marchese

Pursuant to the Order of the House of June 2, 1997, the Bill is Ordered for Third Reading.

Conformément à l'ordre adopté par l'Assemblée le 2 juin 1997, le projet de loi est ordonné pour la troisième lecture.

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI

The following Bill was introduced and read the first time:-

Bill 156, An Act to amend certain statutes with respect to The Regional Municipality of Sudbury. Mr R. Bartolucci.

Le projet de loi suivant est présenté et lu une première fois:-

Projet de loi 156, Loi modifiant certaines lois en ce qui concerne la municipalité régionale de Sudbury. M. R. Bartolucci.

MOTIONS

MOTIONS

Mr Johnson (Don Mills) moved,

M. Johnson (Don Mills) propose,

That, pursuant to Standing Order 9(c), the House shall meet from 6:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on Tuesday, September 9, 1997 and Wednesday, September 10, 1997 for the purpose of considering government business.

The question having been put on the motion was carried on the following division:-

La motion, mise aux voix, est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 51

Baird Hodgson Sampson

Beaubien Jackson Shea

Boushy Johns Sheehan

Brown Johnson Snobelen

(Scarborough West) (Don Mills) Sterling

Chudleigh Johnson Stewart

Cunningham (Perth) Tilson

Danford Kells Tsubouchi

Doyle Klees Turnbull

Ecker Maves Vankoughnet

Elliott Mushinski Villeneuve

Fisher Newman Wettlaufer

Flaherty O'Toole Wilson

AYES / POUR - Continued

Ford Ouellette Witmer

Fox Parker Wood

Froese Pettit (London South)

Galt Preston Young

Gilchrist Ross

Hastings Runciman

NAYS / CONTRE - 35

Agostino Curling McLeod

Bartolucci Gerretsen Morin

Bisson Grandmaître North

Boyd Gravelle Patten

Bradley Hampton Phillips

Brown Hoy Pouliot

(Algoma-Manitoulin) Kormos Sergio

Castrilli Kwinter Silipo

Christopherson Lankin Wildman

Churley Laughren Wood

Cleary Marchese (Cochrane North)

Colle Martel

Cordiano Martin

Mr Johnson (Don Mills) moved,

M. Johnson (Don Mills) propose,

That the following changes be made to the Standing Committees:

On the Standing Committee on Administration of Justice

Mr Ford

Mrs Ross

Mr Young

Mr Chiarelli

Mr Christopherson

be removed,

On the Standing Committee on Estimates

Mr Beaubien

Mr Sheehan

Mr Vankoughnet

Mr Brown (Algoma-Manitoulin)

Ms Lankin

be removed and that

Mrs Johns be substituted for Mr Kells

On the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs

Mr Barrett

Mr Carr

Mr Martiniuk

Mr Cordiano

Mr Martin

be removed,

On the Standing Committee on General Government

Mr DeFaria

Mr Doyle

Mr Stewart

Mr Gravelle

Mr Wood (Cochrane North)

be removed,

On the Standing Committee on Government Agencies

Mr Ford

Mr Preston

Mr Tascona

Mr Bartolucci

Mr Kormos

be removed, and that

Mr Newman be substituted for Mrs Elliot,

and Mr Spina be substituted for Mr Guzzo

On the Standing Committee on the Legislative Assembly

Mr Baird

Mr Johnson (Brantford)

Mrs Pupatello

Mr Wildman

be removed, and that

Mr DeFaria be substituted for Mrs Marland,

and Mrs Ross be substituted for Mr McLean

and that

Mr North be added to the membership of the Standing Committee on the Legislative Assembly

On the Standing Committee on the Ombudsman

Mr Johnson (Brantford)

Mr Murdoch

Mr Ouellette

Mr Lalonde

Mr Marchese

be removed and that

Mr Ford be substituted for Mr Leadston,

and Mr Vankoughnet be substituted for Mr Boushy,

and Mr Agostino be substituted for Mr Crozier,

and Mrs Pupatello be substituted for Mr Hoy

On the Standing Committee on Public Accounts

Mrs Johns

Mr Murdoch

Mr Skarica

Mrs Pupatello

Mr Pouliot

be removed, and that

Mr Beaubien be substituted for Mr Shea

On the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills

Mr Clement

Mr DeFaria

Mr Vankoughnet

Mr Kennedy

Mr Bisson

be removed, and that

Mr Leadston be substituted for Mrs Johns,

and Mr Brown (Algoma-Manitoulin) be substituted for Mr Gerretsen

On the Standing Committee on Resources Development

Mr Jordan

Mr O'Toole

Mr Spina

Mr Agostino

Ms Churley

be removed,

On the Standing Committee on Social Development

Mr Leadston

Mrs Munro

Mr Newman

Mr Patten

Mr Wildman

be removed, and that

Mr O'Toole be substituted for Mr Parker

On a point of order raised by the member for Beaches-Woodbine (Ms Lankin), the Speaker recessed the House for 10 minutes.

On his return, the Speaker delivered the following ruling:-

We are faced with a situation that is fairly unique. I must decide whether or not what we are dealing with today is a Routine Motion. The Standing Orders say that a motion that "changes committee membership" is a Routine Motion. Our practice has clearly been that routine motions of this nature have been simple substitution motions. In my view the motion before us seeks to do more than this, it is a motion that changes the number of members and adds the participation of an Independent member. I find therefore that this motion does not fit within the definition of Routine and will require notice.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Mr Johnson (Don Mills) moved,

M. Johnson (Don Mills) propose,

That, pursuant to Standing Order 46 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 148, An Act to deal with matters relating to the establishment of the new City of Toronto, when Bill 148 is next called as a government order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill without further debate or amendment, and at such time the bill shall be referred to the Standing Committee on General Government;

That, the Standing Committee on General Government shall be authorized to meet for the purpose of conducting public hearings on the bill at its regularly scheduled meeting times on September 18th and September 25th;

That all amendments shall be tabled with the Clerk of the Committee by 12:00 noon on October 1st;

That the committee shall be authorized to meet to consider the bill for clause-by-clause consideration during its regularly scheduled meeting times on October 2nd; and that the Committee shall be authorized to meet beyond its normal hour of adjournment on October 2nd until completion of clause-by-clause consideration;

At 5:00 p.m. on October 2nd, those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the bill and any amendments thereto. Any divisions required shall be deferred until all remaining questions have been put and taken in succession with one 20-minute waiting period allowed pursuant to standing order 127(a);

That, the Committee shall report the bill to the House on October 6th. In the event that the Committee fails to report the bill on the date provided, the bill shall be deemed to be passed by the Committee and shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House;

That, upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on General Government, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, and at such time the bill shall be ordered for third reading;

That, one sessional day shall be allotted to the third reading stage of the bill. At 5:45 p.m. or 9:15 p.m. as the case may be on such day, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or amendment;

That, in the case of any division relating to any proceedings on the bill, the division bell shall be limited to 5 minutes.

A debate arose and, after some time, the motion was carried on the following division:-

Il s'élève un débat et après quelque temps, la motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 46

Baird Gilchrist Ouellette

Beaubien Grimmett Parker

Boushy Hardeman Preston

Chudleigh Hastings Ross

Clement Hodgson Sampson

Cunningham Jackson Shea

Danford Johns Sheehan

DeFaria Johnson Sterling

Doyle (Don Mills) Stewart

Elliott Jordan Turnbull

Fisher Klees Vankoughnet

Flaherty Leadston Villeneuve

Ford Munro Wettlaufer

Fox Mushinski Wood

Froese Newman (London South)

Galt O'Toole Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 17

Bisson Gerretsen Martin

Bradley Gravelle McLeod

Castrilli Hoy Patten

Christopherson Kormos Pouliot

Churley Marchese Silipo

Cleary Martel

The House then adjourned

at 6:00 p.m.

À 18 h, la chambre a ensuite

ajourné ses travaux.

le président

Christopher M. Stockwell

Speaker

Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 39(a):-

Documents Parlementaires Déposés Conformément à l'article 39(a) du Règlement:-

Ontario New Home Warranty Program, Annual Report 1996 (No. 562) (Tabled September 8, 1997).

Part-time appointments re intended Order-in-Council dated September 3, 1997 (No. 561) (Tabled September 5, 1997).

Workers' Compensation Board of Ontario / Commission des Accidents du Travail de l'Ontario, Annual Report 1996 (No. 560) (Tabled September 4, 1997).

Questions Answered (see Sessional Paper No. 5):-

Final Answers to Question Numbers: 1975 to 1978, 1982 and 1983.

Interim Answers to Question Numbers: 2080 and 2081.

Responses to Petitions:-

Réponses aux Pétitions:-

Petitions relating to Establishing a Dialysis treatment facility in Cornwall (Sessional Paper No. P-266):

(Tabled August 18, 19, 1997) Mr J. Cleary.

Petitions relating to a Variance allowing only standby chlorination to be used in Milton's water delivery system (Sessional Paper No. P-269):

(Tabled August 19, 26, 1997) Mr T. Chudleigh.

Petitions relating to Support for all current forms of black bear hunting (Sessional Paper No. P-275):

(Tabled August 25, 1997) Mr R. Bartolucci.

(Tabled August 21, 25, 1997) Mr J. O'Toole.

Petitions relating to Public consultation with Ontarians on the future of TVO/TFO (Sessional Paper No. P-291):

(Tabled August 18; September 2, 1997) Mr M. Gravelle.

Petition relating to Proposal to change the structure of relations between the provinces and municipalities without public consultation (Sessional Paper No. P-303):

(Tabled September 2, 1997) Mr J. Cleary.