Assemblée législative de l'Ontario

L176P - Mon 7 Apr 1997 / Lun 7 avr 1997

CITY OF TORONTO ACT, 1996 / LOI DE 1996 SUR LA CITÉ DE TORONTO

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Report continued from volume O.

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CITY OF TORONTO ACT, 1996 / LOI DE 1996 SUR LA CITÉ DE TORONTO

Continuing consideration of Bill 103, An Act to replace the seven existing municipal governments of Metropolitan Toronto by incorporating a new municipality to be known as the City of Toronto / Projet de loi 103, Loi visant à remplacer les sept administrations municipales existantes de la communauté urbaine de Toronto en constituant une nouvelle municipalité appelée la cité de Toronto.

The Acting Chair (Mr Doug Galt): I have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leggett Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Legume Road, l-e-g-u-m-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lehar Crescent, l-e-h-a-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leigh Street, l-e-i-g-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leighton Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leila Lane, l-e-i-l-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

An NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leita Court, l-e-i-t-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leith Hill Road -- do you have a point of order?

Mr Gilles Bisson (Cochrane South): Did you say deferred vote?

The Acting Chair: Deferred. Oh yes, it's deferred. I hesitated a little, but it's there.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leith Hill Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leith Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lejune Road, l-e-j-u-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

Now, we have an NDP motion here, subsection 24(4): Leland Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion here, subsection 24(4): LeMay Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lemonwood Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lennox Street. It must be after Lennox and Addington. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lenore Avenue, l-e-n-o-r-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lenthall Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leo Starway. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion here, subsection 24(4): Leona Drive, l-e-o-n-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. There shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion here, subsection 24(4): Leonard Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion here, subsection 24(4): Leonard -- this is Leonard Avenue.

Mr Tony Silipo (Dovercourt): Point of order.

The Acting Chair: Oh, I'm sorry. Point of order.

Mr Silipo: Thank you, Chair. I believe this is a duplicate of the one that you just passed, so I would like to withdraw it. You've just done Leonard Avenue, I believe, right? This is the second copy of the same.

The Acting Chair: Thank you very much. Yes.

Mr Silipo: Thank you.

The Acting Chair: Thank you. A duplication there.

Well, we have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leonard Circle. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it, and we have two, three, four, five; there shall be a deferred vote.

NDP motion here, subsection 24(4): Leonard Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote.

We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leopold Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and we have two, four -- would you mind just stepping to your place? In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote.

NDP motion here, subsection 24(4): Lepage Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote.

Mr Gilles Pouliot (Lake Nipigon): A point of order, Mr Chair.

The Acting Chair: Point of order, member from Nipissing.

Mr Pouliot: No.

The Acting Chair: Lake Nipigon. My apologies.

Mr Pouliot: There is a huge difference, Mr Speaker.

The Acting Chair: Oh, hope he's not watching.

Interjection: Especially at the end of every month.

Mr Pouliot: Mr Speaker, I heard either a sigh of relief on you, but I wonder about your health --

The Acting Chair: Well, my health is just fine.

Mr Pouliot: -- if you're well. There's this "ho" and then the name of the street on the previous motion.

The Acting Chair: Sometimes there's a little pronunciation problem, and I hesitate with the pronunciation.

Mr Pouliot: Nipissing.

The Acting Chair: We have an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lepus Starway, l-e-p-u-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and there shall be a deferred vote and a new Chair.

Interjection: Speed up the pace a bit, Bert.

The Second Deputy Chair (Mr Bert Johnson): No, no. It's not how fast we go, it's that we do it well.

Interjections: Hear, hear.

The Second Deputy Chair: Thanks very much, Doug.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leroy Avenue, l-e-r-o-y. All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lescon Road, l-e-s-c-o-n. All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Mrs Lyn McLeod (Fort William): Are you not making an assumption, Mr Chair, by pointing to each side in the question?

The Second Deputy Chair: Well, I --

Interjection: It's pretty reliable.

The Second Deputy Chair: I guess I just want to be sure I don't make a mistake.

Interjection: Don't worry.

The Second Deputy Chair: But if you don't want it, I won't.

Mrs McLeod: Well, I just thought it might -- for interest, you might want to refer to "all those in favour, say `aye'" with this hand and "all those --

The Second Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lesgay Crescent, l-e-s-g-a-y. All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leslie, l-e-s-l-i-e. All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leslie Gardens Lane, l-e-s-l-i-e g-a-r-d --

Interjection: Dispense.

The Second Deputy Chair: Is there unanimous consent? No.

G-a-r-d-e-n-s. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leslie Street, l-e-s-l-i-e. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lesmar Drive, l-e-s-m-a-r. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lesmill, l-e-s-m-i-l-l. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lesmill Road, l-e-s-m-i-l-l. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion --

Mrs McLeod: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I don't believe you called that as a deferred vote and I believe five people were standing.

The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, I'm sorry. That vote, Lesmill, is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lesmount Avenue, l-e-s-m-o-u-n-t. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lessard Avenue, l-e-s-s-a-r-d. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

There are too many standing. If there are too many people standing on this side, I can't tell when you're just standing to record your wish to have a division or whether you have a point order.

Mr Michael A. Brown (Algoma-Manitoulin): I much appreciate that, Mr Speaker.

The Second Deputy Chair: I recognize the member for Algoma-Manitoulin on a point of order.

Mr Michael Brown: I don't believe on the last vote you asked if the motion would carry.

Mr Bud Wildman (Algoma): You're skipping a line.

The Second Deputy Chair: Unless I'm mistaken, I haven't done that since I came this morning. I'm sorry, I haven't.

Mr Michael Brown: I think that's part of the procedure, Mr Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: I would like to address the member for Algoma-Manitoulin on a point of order. It is a point of order. I'm advised by the very best help available in this entire building that indeed I should put the question, "Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry?" and then if it's carried I don't have to go through with the rest. In terms of expediting it, I've been leaving that out. I've done, I think, over a thousand of these and I've never had that occasion come yet, so I just thought it would expedite things to eliminate that. I would ask for unanimous consent for that.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I have to have order here. I'm trying to address a point of order over here and I can't have this chattering back and forth.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. Would the member in his wrong seat and the member for Lake Nipigon come to order. Would you please come to order.

Interjection.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order, I warned the member for Lake Nipigon once. I will not warn you again. I'm addressing a point of order. It's a very important part of this process that it be done properly. I don't want to make a mistake and I'm sure nobody else does.

To finish the point of order from the member for Algoma-Manitoulin: Because it is not used in committee and we're in committee of the whole, I thought it wasn't necessary here. I have obviously blundered. I'm sorry and I will correct it. That's not my only blunder this morning; I've made others and I will make more. I slept in. I'm not infallible. I will do the best to my knowledge to do everything that is right and proper. Does that satisfy your point of order? Are you getting up on something else?

Mr Michael Brown: Yes, thank you. The House needs to understand that there is a reason why we go through the procedure --

The Second Deputy Chair: No, no, I'm sorry. That is not a point of order.

Mrs McLeod: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I just wanted you to clarify the ruling you've given us. I realize some of these things may become rather rote after a while. I thought I was following it fairly closely and I believe you were calling for the question to be carried, whether the committee would carry the question, up until the last two votes. I attempted to interject on the second-last, so I think you have been doing it as we have been following procedure.

Interjection.

The Second Deputy Chair: I am addressing the member for Fort William. I've only done 11 this morning. Like I said, I overslept. I apologize. We can come to a standstill and I can check that for you.

Mrs McLeod: No need. I just think you have been.

The Second Deputy Chair: Because I am fallible; I have made mistakes. I will almost guarantee that of those 11 I have not done one yet. But I've already explained to the member for Algoma-Manitoulin that I will, and if that's enough, then I would like not to have to go into this any more. I'd like to get on with it. Would that be the wish of everybody here?

Mrs McLeod: Mr Chair, I wasn't suggesting we suspend the proceedings to check the record. I just think you're less fallible than you were suggesting you were.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order.

Mrs McLeod: I was under the impression, Mr Chair, you were doing yourself an injustice by thinking you hadn't followed that procedure all morning. I have no need for you --

The Second Deputy Chair: You were using the "fallible."

Mrs McLeod: I just said you were less fallible than you were suggesting that you were, because you hadn't made the mistake, in my view, earlier on, so no need to correct the record any further.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'll take that in the sense that it was said.

Mr Michael Brown: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Just so we could have this clarified, when the question has not been asked properly, does that affect the vote? I want to know because this could have some ramifications. Clearly we could find a way to maybe fix that if that is the problem.

The Second Deputy Chair: That is not a point of order.

Mr Michael Brown: It isn't?

The Second Deputy Chair: I would like to explain that, if I can, just to clear it up. A point of order is if we're doing something wrong. You stood up and had a point of order that I was doing something wrong. Fine. Right now, you're standing up and we haven't done anything, so how could I do anything wrong?

Mr Michael Brown: On a point of order, Mr Chair: All I was trying to do was to be helpful so that we could understand if the standing order had not --

The Second Deputy Chair: Please take your seat. That is not a point of order, but I'm going to explain because I want to get things right and I want to do things properly; that's my job. I know what your point is and I want to explain the point. First of all, it's not a point of order, but I'm going to explain. The point of order is that we're doing something wrong, so I'm not willing to take a question on a hypothetical thing -- "What if you make a mistake in the future? What if you made a mistake in the past?"

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If I made a mistake in the past and it's the wish of any member to bring that as a point of order, then by all means bring it up and we'll get it over with and we'll get on. We'll expedite things and we'll get to where we want to go. I was brought up to say that's what the end of the job is.

But this is not question period. You can't ask me, "What will happen?" "What has happened?" "What about...?" or anything else. If I'm doing something wrong, that's a point of order. I will want it to be brought up. Are we clear?

Mr Silipo: This side is clear.

The Second Deputy Chair: Is there anybody else who's not clear? Can I explain it any better so that every person in this House will know exactly the way we want to do it?

Interjection: We're clear. Everyone's clear.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4) Lesskim Court, l-e-s-s-k-i-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, Lester Avenue, l-e-s-t-e-r. Shall the motion carry. All those is favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I would like to withdraw the following amendment, which deals with Lester B. Pearson International. While it's an important airport, I don't believe it's a street, so we will withdraw that.

The Second Deputy Chair: Yes, that is a point of order and I shall withdraw it.

I would like to make a request, and that is that we dispense with withdrawing them. It's faster for me to just go through and do them in their improper form.

Mr Silipo: It may be faster, but I think it would be appropriate that if we have an amendment that we don't think is appropriate we withdraw it as opposed to having a vote on it.

The Second Deputy Chair: If you don't want to do it in the fastest way possible, we'll expedite but we'll do it properly. That's your point?

Mr Silipo: That's my point.

The Second Deputy Chair: That should be all our point. It is done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lesterwood Crescent, l-e-s-t-e-r-w-o-o-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leswyn Road, l-e-s-w-y-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Letchworth Crescent, l-e-t-c-h-w-o-r-t-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I do not believe the House is duly constituted. Quorum call, please.

The Second Deputy Chair: Are you asking me to ascertain that?

Mr Pouliot: Yes, I'm asking that quorum be taken.

The Second Deputy Chair: Would you determine if there is a quorum.

Clerk at the Table (Ms Lisa Freedman): A quorum is not present, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair ordered the bells rung.

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is now present, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lethbridge Avenue.

Mr Steve Gilchrist (Scarborough East): On a point of order, Chair: In the interests of both your voice and time, the Chair had ruled yesterday, in allowing the abbreviation of these, that they need not be spelled unless asked for, and even then his presumption was that would only be occasional, in the case of awkward words. I'm sure on behalf of our members we would be more than happy to have you dispense with the spelling of each of those names.

The Second Deputy Chair: Is it the wish of this committee I dispense with spelling the names? I'm sorry, there is not unanimous consent.

Mr Gilchrist: On a point of order, Chair: With the greatest respect, the Chair said yesterday, and it's not something subject for unanimous consent opposite, that it was not necessary and they would have to ask for it when necessary.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I'm addressing the member for Scarborough East on a very important point of order and my ruling is that is not a point of order because it has been ruled on before. You may appeal my decision, but that is my ruling.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order, please. I'd like to get on with this. I'd like to get this expedited. Right now I think I have as many ticks off for motions passing as I do points of order, and that is not expediting this in the best parliamentary manner.

Shall the motion carry? Shall the motion carry? I'm sorry, I'm asking the question. It was deemed by this committee that it is very important that I ask the question, "Shall the motion carry?" There were people talking. There was no response to it --

Mr Silipo: Yes, there was.

The Second Deputy Chair: Pardon me, there was no response until I asked it for the second time. I have to have the attention. If it's important that I read it, that I say it, it's important that it be answered. I want to give every chance that this is fair and I don't think I should have to do it twice.

For the third time, shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leuty Avenue, l-e-u-t-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leverhume Crescent, l-e-v-e-r-h-u-m-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed -- Order. The member for Algoma-Manitoulin is rising on --

Mr Michael Brown: No, just stretching my legs.

The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, I have one member who is stretching -- maybe if you would do it one at a time. No, the member for Nickel Belt, you are stretching yours first. If you would do it one at a time -- this is kind of a tedious task. I try to use all my senses: my eyesight, my hearing, my voice. When I look around, I see people standing, I hear a little bit of noise and I think they're on a point of order. I don't think we should have to stop every motion for an interruption of that sort. I'm not ruling that you can't ever stand up and stretch your legs. I'm saying that if you need five to be standing, maybe if you did it one at a time, that would be reasonable.

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Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Levitt Court, l-e-v-i-t-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lewes Crescent, l-e-w-e-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Mr Chair: I'd like to withdraw the following amendment, which just has the word "Lewis" on it. The one that follows has "Lewis Street," so this is a duplicate, an error.

The Second Deputy Chair: How are you spelling that?

Mr Silipo: L-e-w-i-s. That's all that's there. There's no street designation.

The Second Deputy Chair: Done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lewis Street, l-e-w-i-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lewiston Road, l-e-w-i-s-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lexfield Avenue, l-e-x-f-i-e-l-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lexington Avenue, l-e-x-i-n-g-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Mr Chair: Sorry, I was just a bit slow on this. It's the same issue here. I would like to withdraw the amendment that you're about to read on Leyton, l-e-y-t-o-n, because the following one is Leyton Avenue.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Leyton Avenue, l-e-y-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lia Crescent, l-i-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Mr Chair: I would like to withdraw the next amendment, which deals with Liberty, l-i-b-e-r-t-y.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Liberty Street, l-i-b-e-r-t-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lichen Place, l-i-c-h-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lido Road, l-i-d-o. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lightbourn Avenue, l-i-g-h-t-b-o-u-r-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lighthall Crescent, l-i-g-h-t-h-a-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lighthouse Lane, l-i-g-h-t-h-o-u-s-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lightning Point, l-i-g-h-t-n-i-n-g. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lightwood Drive.

Interjection.

The Second Deputy Chair: I have warned the member for Lake Nipigon.

L-i-g-h-t-w-o-o-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lilac Avenue, l-i-l-a-c. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lillian Drive, l-i-l-l-i-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lillian Street, l-i-l-l-i-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lillibet Road, l-i-l-l-i-b-e-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lillington Avenue, l-i-l-l-i-n-g-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

I'm sorry, are you standing and talking?

Mrs McLeod: Yes.

The Second Deputy Chair: You have a point of order.

Mrs McLeod: No, Chair, I don't.

The Second Deputy Chair: Well, it is confusing to me.

Mrs McLeod: I appreciate that. I will endeavour to make sure that when you're looking, I will not be talking.

The Second Deputy Chair: That's the only time, if you're standing and talking. I can only do three or four things at a time.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lilywood Road, l-i-l-y-w-o-o-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lime Treeway, l-i-m-e. Do you want "Treeway" spelled as well? No. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

The member for Wilson Heights, you're standing. Are you stretching your legs too?

Mr Monte Kwinter (Wilson Heights): I'm standing.

The Second Deputy Chair: I have a problem. We've had some members standing and stretching their legs. My wish is that only one be standing and stretching at a time. I like to catch five members standing, and if I don't know if they're standing just to stretch their legs or because they're on a point of order, it is just a little bit disconcerting.

Mr Kwinter: Mr Chair, are you raising a point of order?

The Second Deputy Chair: No, I'm just saying what would be very helpful to expediting this in the most parliamentary manner.

Mr Kwinter: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Yesterday during a similar situation the Chair at the time ruled that because, when she was reading she wasn't doing anything else and couldn't see anybody, as long as when she looked up she saw people standing, she'd consider that people were standing. As a result, many of us during the night decided it was a lot easier for everybody if we just stayed standing, that it did not interfere in any way with the Chair, who was busy reading the amendment and then looked up and could count at least five bodies standing, and that was it. It was on that ruling that I'm standing. If you want to change that ruling, I'd be happy to accede to your wishes.

The Second Deputy Chair: Are you standing now?

Mr Kwinter: I'm absolutely standing now.

The Second Deputy Chair: Then you weren't standing before.

Mr Kwinter: To my knowledge I've been standing all the time that I've been standing.

The Second Deputy Chair: I want to address this very clearly, I want to be very precise: I want to get this job done in the very best way that I can. Before you were still reading, you were slouching over, and when I look over I can -- I'm sorry, I may overlook you at some time and make a mistake because I won't count you as one of those five. If you're standing upright, that's fine.

That was a point of order. Have I addressed it in every reasonable way I can?

Mr Kwinter: Yes. Thank you.

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The Second Deputy Chair: Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Limerick Avenue, l-i-m-e-r-i-c-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

You don't have to be facing me when you're standing, either.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Limestone Crescent, l-i-m-e-s-t-o-n-e --

Pardon me. There's someone standing and talking. That is very disconcerting to me.

Shall the motion carry? All those in favour -- shall the motion carry?

I asked the question twice. I don't want to make a mistake in this, but I don't think I should have to ask that question twice, to beg an answer for it. I don't want to be biased or overlook anything that I possibly can. When I ask the question, even if only one person says, "Carried," that's enough, and even if they say it a little bit tardily, that's okay, but I want to have a response.

L-i-m-e-s-t-o-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is -- the member for Dovercourt, are you standing?

Mr Silipo: I am standing.

The Second Deputy Chair: I can go as slow or as fast as you want, if that's the wish, to slow this down to a crawl.

The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Limevale Crescent, l-i-m-e-v-a-l-e -- the member for Dovercourt, I have requested on numerous occasions that when persons are standing, they don't talk unless --

Mr Silipo: I apologize.

The Second Deputy Chair: Accepted.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Limevale Crescent, l-i-m-e-v-a-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Limoges Court, l-i-m-o-g-e-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lincoln Avenue, l-i-n-c-o-l-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lincoln Woods Court, l-i-n-c-o-l-n-w-o-o-d-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lindal Avenue, l-i-n-d-a-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linden Avenue, l-i-n-d-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linden Street, l-i-n-d-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

The member for Dovercourt. I only need five members. Four won't do, so I'd like to include you, but when you're not standing in your place --

Mr Silipo: This is my place. I am standing.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm going to rule that you're going to have to be facing me --

Mr Silipo: You said before you didn't need people facing you, sir. That's why I'm doing it.

The Second Deputy Chair: I don't under usual circumstances. These are unusual because you also want to be able to talk and stand at the same time.

I'm sorry. I try to do the best I can. When I ask the question "Carried?" I'm having trouble always getting a response to that. I look up, I scan and I see five, and if you're doing something at the back and bending over and I miss you, I'm awfully concerned that I'll make a mistake. If there are mistakes made here -- I don't want to and I make lots of them and I'm sorry. I just wondered if there's any way that you can help me.

Mr Silipo: I'd be happy to help you, sir, if you could just clarify for me: Do you require members to stand facing you? I thought earlier you said it was acceptable that as long as we were standing in our place, it didn't matter whether we were facing you or facing another direction. That's why I haven't turned around. But if you require us to face you, I will do that.

The Second Deputy Chair: No, my question is, if you are leaning over, facing the other way, putting papers in a box or taking them out, then are you standing in your place? I will rule on it, if you want, but the point is I may make a mistake because of that because I don't include you. Then you're going to have some criticism of this Chair, and I want to leave absolutely no room for criticism, if I can possible help it.

Mr Silipo: I appreciate that. I will stand up straight. But I just want to be clear, as long as I'm standing straight, it doesn't matter which direction I'm facing?

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry, this isn't question period. We're not going to enter into debate.

Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linderwood Drive, l-i-n-d-e-r-w-o-o-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lindhill Island, l-i-n-d-h-i-l-l. Shall the motion carry? Shall the motion carry? It does not carry. I asked it twice. I got no "carried." It does not carry.

Mr Wildman: That's fine.

Mr Floyd Laughren (Nickel Belt): You are wrong in this case. You are dead wrong.

Mr Wildman: I said "carried."

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm thinking of ruling so you may have the freedom of the House, if that's in order.

Mr Silipo: Chair, what's going on? There was no challenge to you.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm looking for a ruling.

Mr Mario Sergio (Yorkview): But there was no challenge.

The Second Deputy Chair: Not yet.

Order. The ruling I'm seeking is whether or not I should be soliciting the response "Carried." Up until now I have always, without exception, every time, had the word "carried" given to me by someone. Only this morning have I ever solicited it. When I didn't hear it, I asked for it twice.

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A very experienced, respected member of this House indicated that I was doing something wrong, and I don't want to do that. In the fullest respect, I don't want to do that. I was seeking a ruling, and I want to address the member for Nickel Belt because he is absolutely right. I am absolutely wrong. I do not need to have the word "carried." I thank you for your help on that, because I thought that I wasn't hearing the word "carried." Indeed, I don't need the word "carried." So you can do whatever you like that way.

What I'm telling you is that I go by my senses. I look at things, I go by hearing, I look up to see. I'm trying to do this the very best I can and I didn't want to make a mistake, because I was about to rule that if I had to keep soliciting, I was not going to continue to do that, just on my own. Is that clear?

Mrs McLeod: May I ask for just one further clarification on it?

The Second Deputy Chair: No, it's not question period, but if you're rising on a point of order, then I recognize the member for Fort William.

Mrs McLeod: Yes, then, I am rising on a point of order in direct response to the point of order which I think you just placed, which was to ask whether or not the procedures are clear. It would be my understanding then that you will, as the other Chairs have followed procedure, when the motion is placed say, "Is it the pleasure of the committee that the motion carry?" and that if there is no dissenting voice, then the motion indeed is carried without further procedure. So you don't have to put ayes or nays. If there's no "yes," then you still have to go to ayes or nays, because it's only the dissent that would put it to the next stage in the procedure.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'll address that. If you're asking me for clarification, I don't mind giving it, but it's not a point of order.

Mrs McLeod: Mr Chair, with respect, I do believe that the order in which we carry out the voting procedure is a point of order, and so I'm just wanting to determine that.

The Second Deputy Chair: Absolutely, but asking me about it isn't.

Mrs McLeod: Determining under what rules of procedure we are carrying out our votes is a point of order.

The Second Deputy Chair: I've read a thousand of these. If I'm not doing it right, then stand in your place and bring it to a point and correct me, but I'm not willing to go through and explain and explain what I've been doing. Is that okay?

Mrs McLeod: Mr Chair, I'm not wanting to challenge you in any way. I wanted to be sure that we don't have to go through this on subsequent occasions, because as you've just said, there was about to have been a mistake made, which you corrected, and I appreciate that. You corrected that even though we had not challenged it, and I appreciate the fact that you yourself undertook to clarify the rules of procedure. Rather than wait for a point at which we would have to challenge, I just wanted to be sure that where there is no dissenting vote when you place the question, "Shall this motion be carried?" if you hear no dissenting vote, nobody says no, then the motion carries without any further placing of the ayes or nays, and I believe that is correct procedure.

I know that it would distress you very greatly, Mr Chairman, if a motion had to be called carried because there was not clarity in the procedure, since that has already happened once in the placing of these amendments, not when you were in the chair, but it has happened. It has significance, and I just want to be absolutely sure that we're clear on the circumstances under which a motion will be considered to be carried with no further steps, including the ayes or nays, and it would be if there was no dissenting voice when you place the question, "Shall this motion be carried?" At that point, if there is no "no," that motion is carried with no further steps. Since it does have significance, I think it's an important point of order to ensure that we are all in agreement as to how we're proceeding.

The Second Deputy Chair: Yes. I'd like to address that. This is not a point of order. Right now we are not in debate, so --

Mrs McLeod: All right, Mr Chair. I will withdraw it, and we will proceed and challenge should the occasion occur, but I believe that since I have not been corrected by point of order, my understanding of the proceedings is correct.

The Second Deputy Chair: No. I want to be very clear about that. Just because somebody gets up and says it and I don't challenge it, I do not accede to it either. If I don't say anything, that means that I have maybe deferred my decision or I've put it off or I'm retaining that right to contradict it or to agree to it later.

Mrs McLeod: That's fine, Mr Chair. You will reserve that right. I was trying to be helpful, but we will proceed, and should there be a point of challenge, I will make the challenge at the time.

The Second Deputy Chair: That would be the proper way.

This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lindhill Island, l-i-n-d-h-i-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lindner Street, l-i-n-d-n-e-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lindsey Avenue, l-i-n-d-s-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lindylou Road, l-i-n-d-yl-o-u. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linelle Street, l-i-n-e-l-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ling Road, l-i-n-g. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lingarde Drive, l-i-n-g-a-r-d-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linsmore Cr, l-i-n-s-m-o-r-e C-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linsmore Crescent, l-i-n-s-m-o-r-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linstead Court, l-i-n-s-t-e-a-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linthurst Avenue, l-i-n-t-h-u-r-s-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linton Avenue, l-i-n-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linus Road, l-i-n-u-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Order. Is the member for Lake Nipigon standing in his place? Then you have a point of order?

Mr Pouliot: No, because I would say "Point of order," and then you would recognize me for a point of order.

The Second Deputy Chair: With due respect, if you're standing in your place and talking, I have to know if it's a point of order. I have ruled that you may not stand in your place and talk. It's disconcerting to me, and I will not tolerate it.

Mr Pouliot: I understand that it would be disconcerting.

The Second Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linville Road, l-i-n-v-i-l-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Linwood Avenue, l-i-n-w-o-o-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lionel Heights Crescent, l-i-o-n-e-l h-e-i-g-h-t-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Mrs McLeod: Mr Chair, on a point of order: May I just determine whether you did hear a dissenting voice when you placed the question?

The Second Deputy Chair: I did. I'm going to rule that that is not a point of order, but I want to explain what I'm doing. I'm using my hearing for that. So if I don't hear it, I don't hear it, and if I do hear it I do hear it. So if I didn't hear a dissenting voice, I would not have proceeded.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lionhead Trail. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Mr Pouliot: Point of order --

The Second Deputy Chair: Can I defer the vote first?

Mr Pouliot: My apologies.

The Second Deputy Chair: The vote is deferred.

The Chair recognizes the member for Lake Nipigon on a point of order.

Mr Pouliot: The following motion is a duplicate, Lionhead Trail again, and we would wish to withdraw it.

The Second Deputy Chair: That is a point of order. It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lippincott Street, l-i-p-p-i-n-c-o-t-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lippincott Street E, l-i-p-p-i-n-c-o-t-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lippincott Street W, l-i-p-p-i-n-c-o-t-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lipton Avenue, l-i-p-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lisa Road, l-i-s-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lisburn Crescent, l-i-s-b-u-r-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Liscombe Road, l-i-s-c-o-m-b-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lisgar Street, l-i-s-g-a-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lissom Crescent, l-i-s-s-o-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lister Drive, l-i-s-t-e-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Liszt Gate, l-i-s-z-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Litchfield Court, l-i-t-c-h-f-i-e-l-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Little Avenue, l-i-t-t-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Little Blvd, l-i-t-t-l-e b-l-v-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Little Kennisis Lk, l-i-t-t-l-e k-e-n-n-i-s-i-s l-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Little Norway Cr, l-i-t-t-l-e n-o-r-w-a-y c-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Little Norway Crescent, l-i-t-t-l-e n-o-r-w-a-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Little River Crescent, l-i-t-t-l-e r-i-v-e-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Little Rock Drive, l-i-t-t-l-e r-o-c-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Littleborough Court, l-i-t-t-l-e-b-o-r-o-u-g-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Littledean Court, l-i-t-t-l-e-d-e-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Littleleaf Drive, l-i-t-t-l-e-l-e-a-f. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Littleriver Cr, l-i-t-t-l-e-r-i-v-e-r c-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Ms Annamarie Castrilli (Downsview): A point of order, Mr Chair: You didn't look to see if there was a deferred vote on that.

The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, I'm sorry. Littleriver Cr. In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Littles Road, l-i-t-t-l-e-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

The First Deputy Chair (Ms Marilyn Churley): Good morning again. Before I begin, let me tell you that when I was here at 3 this morning I thought it was my 9 shift and I was halfway through the vote this morning when I looked at the clock and thought, What? I phoned three people from my office at 3 this morning and left messages on their machines saying, "Hi, it's 9 in the morning, blah blah blah blah blah" -- and woke them all up, I found out this morning. Anyway, having said that, let's get started.

Mr Ernie Hardeman (Oxford): That's why you kept referring to "this morning."

The First Deputy Chair: That's right. NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Littlewood Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Littoral Place, l-i-t-t-o-r-a-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Liverpool Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Livingston Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Livingstone Avenue. All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Chair: It has been the practice -- Livingstone Avenue has not been spelled. I don't wish to draw you into a spelling bee contest, Madame; however, for the edification of all of us, and those many, many who are listening on television, who are tuned to the parliamentary channel, it is important that people understand which street.

The First Deputy Chair: I'll tell you what I was doing when I came in for this new change in the reading at 3 this morning, which I thought was 9. I was spelling ones that I thought sounded unusual or not clear when I said them, and the ones that seemed to me to be obvious I was not spelling. That worked except on, I think, two or three occasions, when I was asked to spell ones I didn't. I'd prefer to keep going that way and if there's one that is not obvious and you want it spelled, just ask me. That's my ruling, member for Lake Nipigon.

Okay, we shall continue: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Livonia Place, l-i-v-o-n-i-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lloyd Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lloyd George Avenue, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lloyd Manor Road, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lloydminster Crescent. Lloydminster is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lobb Avenue, l-o-b-b. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lochinvar Crescent, l-o-c-h-i-n-v-a-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lochleven Drive, l-o-c-h-l-e-v-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion: Lochway Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion: Lockdare Street. That's l-o-c-k-d-a-r-e, one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lockerbie Avenue. That's l-o-c-k-e-r-b-i-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lockheed Boulevard. That's l-o-c-k-h-e-e-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion: Lockie Avenue, l-o-c-k-i-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lockington Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lockmere Terrace. That's l-o-c-k-m-e-r-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lockport Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Locksley Avenue, l-o-c-k-s-l-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lockton Court, l-o-c-k-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lockwood Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Locust Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lodestar Road, l-o-d-e-s-t-a-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lofthouse Square. "Lofthouse" is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lofty Hill Way. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Log Fern Way, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Logan. All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Logan Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Loganberry Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Logandale Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Logstone Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Logwood Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Loire Court. That's spelled l-o-r-i-e.

Mr Pouliot: With the height of respect, "Lorie"? Is it not "Loire Court"?

The First Deputy Chair: It may well be, actually. Thank you.

Mr Pouliot: I just want to make sure there's no duplication.

The First Deputy Chair: Yes, it could well be. Loire Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lois Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lola Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Loma Road.

Mr Pouliot: Didn't we do this one before, Madam Chair?

The First Deputy Chair: Are you on a point of order, member for Lake Nipigon?

Mr Pouliot: Yes. My apologies. One was Lola, and this one was Loma?

The First Deputy Chair: This is l-o-m-a, Loma Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lomar Drive, l-o-m-a-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lombard Street, l-o-m-b-a-r-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lombardy Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lomond Drive, l-o-m-o-n-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lonborough Avenue. That's l-o-n-b-o-r-o-u-g-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): London Green Court, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): London Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Loney Avenue, l-o-n-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Long Branch Avenue, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Long Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longboat. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longboat Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longbourne Drive, one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longbow Square, l-o-n-g-b-o-w. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longfellow Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longfield Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longford Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longford Mills. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longhope Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longhouse Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longmore. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longmore Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

The member for Lake Nipigon.

Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Quorum call.

The First Deputy Chair: Is there a quorum, clerk?

Clerk at the Table (Mr Todd Decker): A quorum is present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: A quorum is present.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longspur Road, l-o-n-g-s-p-u-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longsword Drive, l-o-n-g-s-w-o-r-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longview Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longwood Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Longworth. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lonsdale Road, that's l-o-n-s-d-a-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lonsmount Drive, l-o-n-s-m-o-u-n-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lookout Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Loomis Court, that's l-o-o-m-i-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Mrs McLeod: Is the vote then deferred? I'm not sure if you called, "The vote is deferred."

The First Deputy Chair: Oh, I'm sorry, did I not say that? The vote is deferred.

Mrs McLeod: Thank you.

The First Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Loon Lake, l-o-o-n Lake. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Loon Link, l-o-o-n l-k, which means "Link," I believe. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Loradeen Crescent, l-o-r-a-d-e-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lorahill Road, that's one word, l-o-r-a-h-i-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lord Roberts Drive, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lord Seaton Road, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lord Sydenham Court, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lorene Drive, l-o-r-e-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Loretta Crescent North. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lorindale Avenue, l-o-r-i-n-d-a-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lormar Drive, l-o-r-m-a-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lorna Rae Boulevard, that's three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lorne Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Interjection.

The First Deputy Chair: Are you withdrawing this one?

Mr Pouliot: Yes, we're withdrawing this one.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. There's no street name on it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lorne Bruce Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lorne East. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lorraine Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lorraine Gardens. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lost Key Island. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay."

Mr Gilchrist: No, because it's not in Toronto.

The First Deputy Chair: In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Now, I must ask the member for Scarborough East, who has a very loud voice, if he is going -- as you know, heckling is out of order.

Mr Gilchrist: Heckling?

The First Deputy Chair: But I must say if he's going to heckle, I would ask him to go back to his seat please, if, for nothing else, my sake.

Mr Gilchrist: Never happen.

The First Deputy Chair: You're very close to me here.

Mr Gilchrist: Just so you hear my ayes and nays.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, good.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lotherton Path, l-o-t-h-e-r-t-o-n, Oh, sorry Lotherton Path Way. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lotherton Pathway. Do you want to withdraw that one? It's a duplicate.

Mr Pouliot: We will, just in case we were wrong. You will note with respect that the preceding motion, Lotherton Path Way, was three words and this one is two words. So, we wouldn't wish the government side to be confused; we will withdraw the second one. Thank you.

The First Deputy Chair: Withdrawn. NDP motion, subsection 24(4) I think you want to withdraw the next one as well: Lotherton p-t-w-a-y.

Interjection.

The First Deputy Chair: It's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lothian Avenue, l-o-t-h-i-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lotus Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Louisa South. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Louisa Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Louise Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lount Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Louvain Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Interjection: Excuse me?

The First Deputy Chair: Oops. No, that was lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Louvain Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Love Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye."

Mrs McLeod: Madam Chair?

The First Deputy Chair: I'm in the middle of a vote.

Mrs McLeod: I understand that, but before you proceed with the balance of the vote, did you hear a dissenting voice any place in the motion to carry?

The First Deputy Chair: I did hear.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Love Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lovekin Grove, that's l-o-v-e-k-i-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lovel Avenue, l-o-v-e-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lovering Road, l-o-v-e-r-i-n-g. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lovilla Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Low Meadoway. That's two words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lowbank Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lowcrest Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lowell Avenue, l-o-w-e-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Quorum call, please.

The First Deputy Chair: Clerk, is there a quorum?

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is not present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair ordered the bells rung.

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is now present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: A quorum is now present.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) Lower Jarvis Street, that's in three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lower Links Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lower Sherbourne Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lower Spadina Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

I'm going to ask the member to my immediate right, just beside my ear here, to --

Interjection.

The First Deputy Chair: No, you can talk as loudly as you want. You can say your nays as loudly as you want, but please don't try to embellish too much on that form of nay.

Interjection.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. Or I shall have to send you back to your seat.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lower Village Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lowesmoor Avenue, l-o-w-e-s-m-o-o-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lowry Square, l-o-w-r-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lowther Avenue, l-o-w-t-h-e-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Loyalist Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lozoway Drive, that's l-o-z-o-w-a-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lucania Place, l-u-c-a-n-i-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lucerne Court, l-u-c-e-r-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lucifer Drive. Shall the motion carry?

Interjection: She knows how to spell that one.

The First Deputy Chair: Yes, you don't need spelling for that.

All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lucinda Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lucy Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion: Ludgate Drive, that's l-u-d-g-a-t-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ludlow Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ludstone Drive, l-u-d-s-t-o-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Luella Street, l-u-e-l-l-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lumbervale Avenue, l-u-m-b-e-r-v-a-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lumley Avenue, l-u-m-l-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lumsden, l-u-m-s-d-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lumsden Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lund Avenue, l-u-n-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lundy, l-u-n-d-y, Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lunness Road, that's l-u-n-n-e-s-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lunsfield Crescent, that's l-u-n-s-f-i-e-l-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lupin Drive, l-u-p-i-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lurgan Drive, l-u-r-g-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Luttrell Avenue, l-u-t-t-r-e-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Luverne Avenue, l-u-v-e-r-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyall, l-y-a-l-l, Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lydia Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): l-y-d-o-n, Lydon Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyme Regis Crescent. That's three words: Lyme, l-y-m-e, Regis Crescent. All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lympstone Avenue, l-y-m-p-s-t-o-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynch Road. All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyncroft Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynd Avenue, l-y-n-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyndale Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynden Road, that's l-y-n-d-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyndhurst. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Mrs McLeod: On a point of order, Madam Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: I want to continue the vote. I'm in the middle of a vote.

The vote will be deferred.

Yes, now I'm finished the vote. Point of order?

Mrs McLeod: Yes, I just wanted to ask about the rules of order governing the recordings in Hansard. It's my understanding, and I hope it's an accurate understanding and I think all members of the House would hope it's an accurate understanding, that because of the rather unprecedented ruling that the Speaker made in saying that the amendments would not have to be fully read, that the same procedures would apply to Hansard, so that in a recording of Hansard it would be the original amendment and then just the names that are being recorded in Hansard.

It's my understanding that's the way Hansard will proceed and I just wanted to confirm that that was the case. If it is the case, I would then proceed to a second related point of order.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay.

Mrs McLeod: There are no tricks in this, Madam Chair, just in case government members are wondering.

The First Deputy Chair: I think it's fair for people to raise points of order about procedure in this place, especially after a ruling that changes the way we're doing things. I'd like to know, myself, frankly.

To the member for Fort William: The table officer is going to check. He is not sure, but his belief at this time is that whatever is in Hansard is what is read out. Perhaps you want to keep your second point of order, if it's related to this, until we know. That's what I'd prefer to do.

Mrs McLeod: In the interest of actually proceeding with it, if I may, Madam Chair, I would just perhaps indicate that my second point of order was to say that if my understanding of that is correct, whether or not it would be in order to seek a unanimous consent of the committee of the whole in order to have that decision, as it applies to the recording in Hansard, retroactive to the point at which Hansard is now, which would save Hansard staff considerable extra hours of transcribing.

I pose it simply because I think it would be helpful, given the nature of the Speaker's ruling. I don't think Hansard is currently at the point at which that ruling was made. If it's not in order I will not proceed with it, but if it can be checked --

The First Deputy Chair: We will check on that.

Mr Pouliot: Madam Speaker, on the same point: Given the crucial and vital importance of the matter that has just been raised by my distinguished colleague, I, too, and my colleagues, would wish to know. Maybe a recess of half an hour would be in order, Madam. An important point has been raised.

The First Deputy Chair: Member for Lake Nipigon, I'm not going to call a recess but I'm going to ask that we get that information as quickly as possible so that we can proceed if indeed somebody wants to move unanimous consent.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyndhurst Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyndhurst Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynedock Crescent, that's l-y-n-e-d-o-c-k, one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynmont Road, l-y-n-m-o-n-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynn Gate Crescent, that's three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Madam Chair: We wish to withdraw the following by way of duplication.

The First Deputy Chair: That's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynn Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyn Valley Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynnbrook Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynndale Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynnford Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynngrove Avenue, that's one word, Lynngrove. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynnhaven Road, Lynhaven is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynvalley Crescent, Lynvalley is one n and one word, l-y-n-v-a-l-l-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Madam Chair: We wish to withdraw the following amendment.

The First Deputy Chair: Yes, it's a duplication. That's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lynwood Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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Mr Sergio: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I was not in the House when the Speaker rendered the decision yesterday. Did he say that members would be provided with a copy of the amendment or with copies of all the amendments?

The First Deputy Chair: I was not in the House either at that time, so if you will give me a moment here.

Mr Kwinter: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Just for clarification, every member was provided with a copy of the amendment. So they should have it at their desk, and all that's been happening is that the street names are being read out.

The First Deputy Chair: But the member for Yorkview asked if there was a ruling yesterday that all members be provided with a copy or copies of all the amendments.

Mr Sergio: I need to know what the ruling was.

The First Deputy Chair: What the ruling was yesterday is that each member of the House would be provided with a copy of the substantive motion, amendment, with a blank where the street is, and the Chair will read out the street name so you can follow along on your provided amendment. Okay?

Mr Sergio: Any possibility that we can have the decision of the Speaker in writing so I know exactly what the Speaker said yesterday?

The First Deputy Chair: I don't think that the Speaker has provided or is providing all of his decisions in writing, but give me a moment here and I'll get back to you.

The Speaker doesn't normally provide his decision in writing unless it is an appeal to a decision by a Chair. So there is no copy of his decision in writing. It will likely appear when the voting procedure -- during votes and proceedings.

Mr Sergio: Would that decision be available from Hansard?

The First Deputy Chair: Anything that's said in this House is in Hansard. I understand that Hansard is a bit behind, for obvious reasons, but of course if it was said in this House, it will be availalbe.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyon, l-y-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyon Court, l-y-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyon Heights Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyonsgate Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyra Star Way, that's three words, and Lyra is spelled l-y-r-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lyric Lane, l-y-r-i-c. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lysander Court, that's l-y-s-a-n-d-e-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Lytton Boulevard, l-y-t-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mabel's Road, that's m-a-b-e-l-'-s road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mabelle. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mabelle Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Madam Chair: We shall withdraw the following amendment.

The First Deputy Chair: That's a duplication of Mabelle Avenue. It's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mabelle Road, m-a-b-e-l-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maberley Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macauley Avenue. Shall the motion carry?

Mr James J. Bradley (St Catharines): Is that with an a or a c?

The First Deputy Chair: That's m-a-c-a-u-l-e-y. All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macdonald Avenue, that's m-a-c-small d, Macdonald Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it.

Interjection: Point of order.

The First Deputy Chair: Deferred -- no, not you. I'm waiting for the --

Interjection: He can't do it in the middle of a vote.

The First Deputy Chair: I'm just trying to tell him that, but when I said -- member for St Catharines, we're still in the vote. You should stand again. We haven't quite finished. It will be a deferred vote.

Mr Sergio: That's fine, thank you.

The First Deputy Chair: You don't have a point of order, okay.

Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Asking your indulgence again on Macdonald Avenue, there's a duplication we shall withdraw.

The First Deputy Chair: That's been withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macdonald Road, that again is small d and m-a-c-d-o-n-a-l-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macdonald Street, that's again m-a-c-small d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macdonell Avenue. That's spelled m-a-c-d-o-n-e-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is lost.

Mr Pouliot: Point of order, Madam Chair: In the interest of time, we would like to withdraw the following one.

The First Deputy Chair: It's a duplication, Macdonell Avenue. That's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macduff Crescent. That's m-a-c-d-u-f-f. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Sergio: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I believe there's no quorum in the House.

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The First Deputy Chair: Clerk, can you check and see if there is a quorum, please?

Clerk at the Table: Quorum is present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: A quorum is present.

Interjection.

The First Deputy Chair: Member for Scarborough East.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macey Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macgregor Avenue, that's m-a-c. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Machockie Road, m-a-c-h-o-c-k-i-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mack Avenue, m-a-c-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mackay Avenue, m-a-c-k-a-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mackenzie Crescent, that's m-a-c. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mackinac Crescent, m-a-c-k-i-n-a-c. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macklem Avenue, m-a-c-k-l-e-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macklingate Court, m-a-c-k-l-i-n-g-a-t-e. All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maclean Avenue, m-a-c-l-e-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maclennan Avenue, m-a-c-l-e-n-n-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macleod Street, m-a-c-l-e-o-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macnaughton Road, m-a-c-n-a-u-g-h-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Macpherson Avenue, m-a-c. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Pouliot: Point of order, Madam Chair: Again, in the interest of time, please withdraw the following amendment.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay. That will be withdrawn. That's a Macpherson Avenue duplicate, I believe.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Madawaska Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Madelaine Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Madeline Road.

Mr Pouliot: With respect to the first one, was that Madelaine? This one's Madeline. It's a different street.

The First Deputy Chair: Are the spellings different? Oh, okay. Thank you for pointing that out. So this is Madeline Road, m-a-d-e-l-i-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Madill Street, m-a-d-i-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Madison Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Madoc Drive, m-a-d-o-c. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Madonna Gardens. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Madras Crescent, m-a-d-r-a-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Madrid Street, m-a-d-r-i-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Madron Crescent, m-a-d-r-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mafeking Crescent, m-a-f-e-k-i-n-g. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Magdalena Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Magellan Drive, m-a-g-e-l-l-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4) --

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: If we are at Magnetawan River, I would like to wtihdraw that amendment.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. That is withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Magnetic Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I would like, as magnificent as it sounds, to withdraw the next amendment if I could.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. Magnificent is withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Magnificent Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is lost.

Mrs McLeod: One, two, three, four, five, Madam Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: Oh, I'm sorry. I couldn't see you because the member for St Catharines was blocking the member from Essex-Kent. Okay? Agreed.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Magnolia Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Magpie Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Magwood Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maher Avenue, m-a-h-e-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Ms Castrilli: Point of order, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: Just one second. The vote will be deferred. Point of order.

Ms Castrilli: A quorum call.

The First Deputy Chair: Can you check the quorum, please?

Clerk at the Table: Quorum is not present, Chair.

The First Deputy Clerk ordered the bells rung.

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is now present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: We're going to begin again. Order, please.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mahogany Place, m-a-h-o-g-a-n-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mrs McLeod: Was there a dissenting vote when you placed the motion?

The First Deputy Chair: Yes.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mahoney Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, please say "aye." I didn't hear an "aye." The vote is lost. Oh, wait. I'm going to start this vote over again. Somebody was chatting to me and I lost track. Okay?

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mahoney Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maida Croft Place, m-a-i-d-a c-r-o-f-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maida Vale. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I believe the next amendment is a duplicate of the one we've just done. Withdraw.

The First Deputy Chair: I have a ruling on the point of order raised by the member for Fort William on Hansard.

On the first point, I should say that the Hansard reflects verbatim what I said in the House earlier. From the outset of this process, what has been spoken by Chairs is what will appear in Hansard. Before the Speaker's ruling yesterday, the full texts of the motions were read and will appear in each case in Hansard. Since the Speaker's ruling, the street names have been read, and that is what will appear in Hansard. Again, the transcript is verbatim.

A full Hansard service is provided for in standing order 132(a). It is beyond the scope of this committee to suspend this, to suspend the applicability of the standing orders, even with unanimous consent. Only the House can do that.

Thank you for your point of order.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Main Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mainshep Road, m-a-i-n-s-h-e-p. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maitland Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maitland Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Majestic Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Major Oak Terrace; "Major" and "Oak" are two separate words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Major Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Malabar Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Malamute Crescent, m-a-l-a-m-u-t-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Malcolm Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Malden. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mallaby Road, m-a-l-l-a-b-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mallard Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Malley Road, m-a-l-l-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mallingham Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mallon Avenue, m-a-l-l-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mallory Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mallory Gardens. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mallow Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Malta Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Malvern Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Malvern Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mammoth Hall Trail, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manadon Drive, m-a-n-a-d-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manaham Road, m-a-n-a-h-a-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manchester Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manchester Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mancroft Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mandarin Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mandel Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manderley Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manfred Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mango Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mangrove Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manhattan Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manilow Street, m-a-n-i-l-o-w. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manitoba Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manitou Blvd. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I would like to withdraw the following amendment, dealing with Manitouwabing Lake.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. That's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maniza Road, m-a-n-i-z-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mann Avenue, m-a-n-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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Mr Silipo: A point of order, Madam Chair: I'd like to withdrew the next amendment which deals with Manning, because it's a duplicate of the one that will follow.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, that will be withdrawn. NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manning Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manor Haven Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manor Road East. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manor Road West. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manorcrest Drive. Should the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manorglen Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manorhampton Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manorpark Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manorwood Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manresa Lane, m-a-n-r-e-s-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manse Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mansewood Gardens. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mansfield Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mansion Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manstor Road, m-a-n-s-t-o-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Manville Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maple Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maple Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maple Branch Path. That's three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maple Bush Avenue, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maple Gate Court, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion --

Mrs McLeod: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Would you call that as a deferred vote, then, based on the five members standing?

The First Deputy Chair: I'm sorry. Yes, thank you. That would be a deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maple Grove Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I'd like to withdraw the next amendment, which deals with Maple Lake.

The First Deputy Chair: That's withdrawn, Maple Lake.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maple Leaf Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I'd like to withdraw the next amendment which deals with Maple Lk.

The First Deputy Chair: Link, I believe. That's my interpretation: Link. It's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mapledawn Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." The motion is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maplehurst Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mapleview Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maplewood Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marathon Crescent. All those in favour of Marathon Crescent say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marawa Court, m-a-r-a-w-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marble Arch Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marblehead Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marblemount Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marbury Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marcel Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marcella Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marcelline Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marchbank Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marchington Circle. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marchmount Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marchwood Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. A deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marcia Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marconi Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marcos Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marengo Avenue, m-a-r-e-n-g-o. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maresfield Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maretta Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. A deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Margaret Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Margate Crescent, that's m-a-r-g-a-t-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Margdon Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Margrath Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Margueretta Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. A deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maria Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marianfeld Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. A deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maribeth Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. A deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marigold Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

I'm going to ask, because it's getting a little bit confusing for me, for the two members in the back to --

Mr Ted Chudleigh (Halton North): Face the table.

The First Deputy Chair: To face the table, correct. Thank you for that help.

Interjection: Dispense

The First Deputy Chair: Dispense? No.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marilake Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion: Marilyn Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marilyn Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Interjection: What a shame.

The First Deputy Chair: Perhaps you'll change your mind.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marina Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mariners Way. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion will be deferred vote.

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Member for Lake Nipigon, what are you doing?

Mr Gilchrist: Is that food? Is that food in the Legislature?

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: Member for Lake Nipigon -- good, put it down.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marion Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mariposa Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maris Shep Way. Shall this motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

I'll see you in a few hours.

The Chair (Mr Gilles E. Morin): We're all set?

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marisa Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is not carried.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marjory Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is not deferred.

Interjection: But there are five members standing. There were last time, Mr Chairman.

The Chair: Where are they? I cannot see them.

Interjection: Floyd is standing.

Mr Laughren: I thought you saw me.

The Chair: You're tall in my spirit.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marjory Avenue. We just did that. Yes, we have two Marjory Avenues.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I would like to withdraw Marjory Avenue, the second of the two.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mark Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markanna Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markay Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markbrook Lane. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markburn Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markdale Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marker Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Market Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markhall Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markham Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markham Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markington Square. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markland Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Markwood Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marlawr Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marlbank Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marlborough Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marlborough Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marlebon Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marlee Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marlena Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marley Avenue. Shall the motion carry?

Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Could you spell the name of the avenue that you have just mentioned?

The Chair: Marley: m-a-r-l-e-y. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marlington Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marlow Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Member for Grey-Owen Sound, your voice really carries. Maybe you should come here.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marmac Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye."

Mrs McLeod: Point of order.

The Chair: All those opposed say "nay." Point of order?

Mrs McLeod: Yes. Did you hear a dissenting voice when you placed the motion and asked if it was carried?

The Chair: Yes, I did.

Mrs McLeod: Thank you.

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The Chair: All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marmaduke Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marmion Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marmora Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

The member for Lake Nipigon, order, please.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marmot Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maroon Mill Way. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marowyne Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marquette Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marquis Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marrakesh Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mars Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marsdale Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred -- merely deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marsh Grass Way. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I would like to withdraw the following amendment, Marsh Grassway, as it is a duplicate.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marsh Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marsha Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marshall Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marshall Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marshfield Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marshlynn Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marta Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Martha Eaton Way. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marthclare Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Martin Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Martin Grove Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Martin Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Martin Ross Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Martindale Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Martini Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Martinview Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Martorino Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marwill Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marydon Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Marwood Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maryhill Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maryland Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maryport Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mascot Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mason Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mason Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Massey. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour -- do you have a point of order?

Mr Silipo: I was trying to withdraw that, Chair.

The Chair: Thank you.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Massey Square. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Massey Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Masseygrove Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Massie Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Massingham Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Masters Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Matane Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Matheson Boulevard East. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Matilda Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mattawa. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mattice Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mattice Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Mr Chair: In view of the long hours, I would --

The Chair: Would the others take your seats while the gentleman addresses me.

Mr Pouliot: I've been asked to ask for unanimous consent for a lunch break, the House to adjourn now and to reconvene at 1 o'clock.

The Chair: Is there unanimous consent? No.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mattson Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maud. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maud Street --

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I believe we should have withdrawn the last one because it wasn't complete, and this one is a duplicate, so I'm not sure how you want to deal with that.

The Chair: Do we have unanimous consent that I withdraw Maud? No.

I just read Maud Street and that one passed too.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maughan Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maureen Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mavety Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote -- that was close -- is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maxim Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maxine Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maxome Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maxwell Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maxwell Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): May Square. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): May Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): May Tree Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mayall Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maybank Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mayberry Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maybourne Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maybrook Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maydolph Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mayfair Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mayfield Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is lost. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mayflower Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mayhill Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mayland Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maynard Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mayo Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maypole Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Maywood Park. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) --

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I would like to withdraw the next amendment dealing with Mc Griskin.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McAdam Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is not deferred. The vote is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McAllister Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McArthur Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McBain Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McCallum Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) --

Mr Silipo: I believe the next one doesn't have a street designation so I withdraw that.

The Chair: When there is too much noise, I cannot hear the point of order, so for the sake of the member for Dovercourt --

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McCaul Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McClinchy Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McClure Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McConnell Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McCool Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McCord Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McCormack Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McCowan Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour would please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McCulley Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McCulloch Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour -- you don't need to say it too loud. I hear you so well.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McCulloch Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McDairmid Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McDonald Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those --

Interjection: Dissent. I'm indicating dissent. Is that permissible?

The Chair: The question is, all those in favour say "aye," all those opposed say "nay." Not "dissent" but "nay."

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McDonald Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McDonald's Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I'd like to withdraw the next amendment dealing with McDougall.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McFarland Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour would please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McGee Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McGill Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I'd like to withdraw the next amendment dealing with McGillivray. It's a duplicate of the one that will follow.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McGillivray Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour would please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I'd like to withdraw the following amendment dealing with McGinnis Lake.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McGinty Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed would please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McGlashan Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McGlashan Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McGrath Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Another McGrath Court. Shall the motion carry? That was withdrawn?

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McGregor Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McGriskin Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McInnes Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McIntosh Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McIntosh Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) --

Mr Silipo: Mr Chair, do we have to --

The Chair: This is McIntosh Street.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McIntosh Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I withdraw McKay.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McKayfield Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: On the next one I'd like to withdraw McKee. It's a duplicate of the one that will follow.

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The Chair: McKee?

Mr Silipo: M-c-k-e-e.

The Chair: Only this one.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McKee Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour would please say "aye." All those opposed would please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McKenzie Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McKnight Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McLachlan Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McLeary Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McLevin. Shall the motion carry? Do you want to withdraw that one? Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McLevin Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McManus Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McMaster Avenue.

Interjections.

The Chair: The member for Hamilton East. The member for Algoma-Manitoulin.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McMaster Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McMillan Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McMurray Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McMurrich Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McNab Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay."

Interjections.

The Chair: Order. If you talk louder than me, nobody will hear.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McNab Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour would please say "aye." All those opposed would please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I believe there was a comment just made by the member for Ottawa-Rideau which I will take was offered in jest and not seriously, but I think warrants being withdrawn.

The Chair: Let me explain the situation I'm in. You made so much noise that I did not hear what he said. I will ask the member for Ottawa-Rideau to stand up, and if you have made a mistake and if you've said something which is out of order or something which is not accepted in this House, I would ask you to withdraw it. I know that you are an honourable member and you will do so.

Mr Garry J. Guzzo (Ottawa-Rideau): Mr Chair --

The Chair: You will do so -- no, no -- without any explanation. Yes or no. Do you withdraw your comment?

Mr Guzzo: No, I do not.

The Chair: You don't withdraw it? Then I'll have to ask -- therefore, there's nothing I can do.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I did not repeat the point that was made because I was trying to encourage us to deal with it quickly, to get it moved off so it wouldn't become an issue, but since the member has refused what I thought was a straightforward offer, I would just ask again -- I'm sure the comment was made in jest and not seriously -- that he reconsider and withdraw the comment he made.

Interjections.

The Chair: Order. Members for Ottawa-Rideau and Dovercourt, please take your seats. In my opinion, all the members are honourable members. I asked the member for Ottawa-Rideau if he had said something which was out of order, something which was insulting, something which was not acceptable in this House, and he said no. I accept his word.

Mr Pouliot: Point of order, Chair: Don't let him off the hook.

The Chair: Take your seat. I'm listening to this gentleman.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I appreciate the position you're in as Chair of this committee in not having heard the comment, but I would ask you if you would, as a courtesy to the House and a courtesy to the committee, ask the member for Ottawa-Rideau to withdraw the comment he made. I would ask you as a courtesy, sir, if you would do that.

The Chair: I will ask the member for Ottawa-Rideau once more. Did you say anything which was unparliamentary? If you did, I ask you to withdraw it.

Mr Guzzo: I did not, sir. In deference to your position, I will withdraw it, although it was not unparliamentary.

The Chair: Thank you.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McNairn Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4).

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I withdraw this amendment, which deals with McNicoll. It's a duplicate of the one that will follow.

Chair, on a point of order again, there's actually a triplicate here, so we will withdraw this one as well. We will leave McNicoll Avenue.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McNicoll Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McPherson. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I would like to withdraw the following motion, dealing with McQuaby Lake.

Interjection: Is that a mistake?

Mr Silipo: Yes, it's a mistake. We can admit a mistake.

The Chair: Order.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McRae Beach South. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McRae Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I would like to withdraw the next one, which deals with McRoberts, because it's a duplicate of the one that will follow.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): McRoberts Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mead Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadow Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadow Lane. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadow Lane Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadow Lark Way. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadow Larkway. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowacres Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowbank. Is that okay?

Mr Laughren: Well, I thought it was Meadowacres Drive.

The Chair: We just went past that.

Mr Laughren: I'm sorry. My mistake. You're correct.

The Chair: The next one is Meadowbank, and the next one after that is Meadowbank Road.

Mr Laughren: Right.

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The Chair: So we'll vote on Meadowbank? Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowbank Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowbrook Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowcliffe Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowcrest.

Mr Laughren: Point of order, Chair: The one reading "Meadowcrest" is not properly designated as a road or a lane or a circle or a parkway or anything else, so we wish to withdraw it.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowcrest Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowglade Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowglen Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowvale Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meadowvale Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meaford Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meath Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mechanics Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medaca Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medal Lane. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medalist Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medford Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medhurst Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medici Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medina Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medland. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medland Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medland Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medley Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medonte Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medulla Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Medway Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Megan Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meighen Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Melbert Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Melbourne Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Melbourne Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Melchior Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meldazy Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Melford Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Melgund Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Melham Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: Point of order, Chair: The next motion deals with Melinda and even though I am very fond of her, I wish to withdraw this motion.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Melinda Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion the nays, have it. The vote is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Melita Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Melita Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: Point of order, Chair: The next one is a duplicate, Melita Cr and Melita Crescent, so we will withdraw this one.

The Chair: NDP motion subsection 24(4): Mellanby Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Mellor Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Mellowood Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Melody Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Melpham Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Melrose Avenue. Shall the motion carry? all those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): There is another Melrose Avenue.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Could this be withdrawn, the second one? The second Melrose Avenue, as opposed to Melrose Place.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Melrose Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Melton Grove Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Melva Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Melville Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Memorial Park Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Memory Gardens Lane. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Mendel Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Mendip Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Mendota Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion subsection 24(4): Menin Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mentor Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mercedes Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: The next one should be withdrawn because it's not designated as a street or whatever.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mercer Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mercury Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mere Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meredith Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meridian Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is lost.

Mr Alvin Curling (Scarborough North): You've got to give me a chance to get up.

Mr Howard Hampton (Rainy River): Finish the phrase.

The Chair: No, you have to be up immediately.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merkley Square. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merredin Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merrian Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Hampton: On a point of order, Chair: You're moving through them very quickly. I have no objection to that, but I wonder if you could repeat the street name. Give us the street name and repeat it, because we're trying to keep track and we're running into some difficulty. Also, I'd like to know what the street is, and if it's said very quickly once, we're not always able to ensure that.

The Chair: I'll do so gladly, efficiently.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merrick Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merriday Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye."

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I'm not trying to be difficult, but I really have lost track. If you wouldn't mind spelling that last one.

The Chair: The one that I have in my hand at the moment is Merriday Street.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merriday Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merrill Avenue East. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merrill Avenue West. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merritt Road.

Mr Hampton: Merritt?

The Chair: Merritt. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merryfield Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merrygale Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Merton Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mervyn Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meta Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) --

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Mr Chair: We withdraw this one. It's not properly designated.

The Chair: Which one is that?

Mr Laughren: It is Metcalfe, to be followed by Metcalfe Street.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Metcalfe Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Meteor Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Methuen Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour --

Mr Hampton: Can we have that street again?

The Chair: M-e-t-h-u-e-n, Methuen. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Metropolitan Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Michael Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Michener Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Michigan Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Micmac Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye."

Mr Wildman: Mic-mock.

The Chair: All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the vote -- you confuse me.

Mr Wildman: Well, that's the way aboriginals pronounce it.

The Chair: In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mid Pines Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mid-dominion Acres. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion: Midburn Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Michael Brown: On a point of order, Mr Chair --

The Chair: On a point of order? Would you please take your seat.

Mr Michael Brown: I do not believe there's a quorum present. Could you check?

The Chair: Please take your seats, the member for Lake Nipigon and the member for Algoma. Your point of order?

Mr Michael Brown: My point of order is I don't believe there's a quorum present.

The Chair: Would you please verify if there is a quorum.

Clerk Assistant (Ms Deborah Deller): A quorum is not present, Chair.

The Chair ordered the bells rung.

Clerk Assistant: A quorum is now present, Chair.

The Chair: Thank you.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Midcroft Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Midden Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Middlefield.

Mr Laughren: On a point of order, Chair: We withdraw that --

The Chair: When a member says "point of order," I would ask the others to take their seats. The member for Nickel Belt.

Mr Laughren: This is a duplication and it's not appropriately identified as a street or avenue.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Middlefield Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Middleport Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Middleton Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Midholm Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Midhurst Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Midland. Do you have a correction there?

Mr Silipo: Yes. We withdraw that.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Midland Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I believe on Midland there is a duplicate as well. You may have already withdrawn that. I'm not sure. On Midland Avenue, I have two.

The Chair: Yes. The member for Dovercourt, you withdrew Midland, we passed Midland Avenue --

Mr Silipo: There's another Midland Avenue.

The Chair: -- and in my hand I have Midland Avenue.

Mr Silipo: That's right. I'm standing to withdraw that, yes.

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The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Midland Point. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Midvale Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Midwest Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milady --

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: There is a duplicate. I'd like to withdraw Milady.

The Chair: Withdrawn. NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milady Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milan Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mildenhall Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mildred Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milepost Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Miles Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Miles Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milford Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I have Miles Place, but I also have Miles Road. Do you not have that?

The Chair: We voted on it already.

Mr Silipo: We did. I'm sorry.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milford Haven Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Military Trail. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I'll withdraw the next one which is a duplicate of the one we just passed.

The Chair: Withdrawn. NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milkwood Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Withdraw the next one, Chair, on a point of order.

The Chair: Withdrawn. NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mill Cove. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mill Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mill Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millbank Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millbridge Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millbrook Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millburn Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milldock Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I'd like to withdraw the following amendment dealing with Mills Island.

The Chair: I have Miller Island.

Mr Silipo: Miller Island? That's the one. The type is off on the "r" there, it looks like an "s". Thank you.

The Chair: Order, order. The member for Dovercourt, you have a sign there, NDP. Please put that box away. Move it away. I know you did not do that intentionally.

Mr Peter Kormos (Welland-Thorold): Somebody had a button that said "Don't get burned by Bill 84." I'll surrender that to the --

The Chair: You are totally out of order.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Miller Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millersgrove Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millerson Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millgate Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millhouse Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millicent Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milliken Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millington Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millmere Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millport Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millsborough Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millview Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millview Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: Withdraw the following amendment dealing with Millway.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millwick Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millwood Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Millwork Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milmink Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milne Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milner Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milner Business Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milroy Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milton Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milton Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milvan Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Milverton Blvd. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mimico Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minden Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Kormos: Chair, on a point of order: I'm not being critical, but I'm here this afternoon, and I hear --

The Chair: Speak a bit louder.

Mr Kormos: Sorry, Chair. I hear the Chair raising these amendments in accordance with the direction of the Speaker. Without being critical, sir, I do note that the Chair calls for "All those in favour say `aye,'" and indeed the Chair immediately, before giving members an opportunity to say "aye," moves into "All those opposed say `nay.'" The Speaker was quite clear that this was an abbreviated form of reading amendments and I understand that and I respect the Speaker's ruling. However, Chair, please, that does not mean that we're dispensing with the seriousness of a vote on each and every one of these. With all due respect, sir, I ask that you follow the traditional role of the Chair in awaiting the ayes and then calling for nays.

Mr Pouliot: On the same point of order, Chair: What my colleague has said is of crucial importance. You have noticed the NDP members that are sponsoring the amendments like soldiers at their posts. We have a meticulous agenda to adhere to, and it is most important, in fact vital, that what my colleague has said be ruled on favourably.

The Chair: Thank you. I accept it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) -- on a point of order related to the amendment?

Mr John R. Baird (Nepean): It's related to the amendment and in particular the comments of the members opposite. We've wasted $1.1 million and just because they don't --

The Chair: No, no. You're totally out of order. The member for Nepean, you're totally out of order. You're wasting my time and you're wasting the time of everyone by making statements that way.

Mr Silipo: Chair, on a point of order: Withdraw the following two amendments both of which have the word Minerva inserted, because they are duplicates of the one that will follow after that.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minerva Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred -- is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minford Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minglehaze Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Miniot Circle. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minnacote Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minnie Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minnowburn Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minorca Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minos Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minstrel Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minto Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minton Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mintwood Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Minuk Acres. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Miramar Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Miranda Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mirrow Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I would like to withdraw the following amendment dealing with Miskwabi Lake, or Lk, as one of your colleagues would say.

The Chair: Withdrawn

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mission Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I would like to withdraw the following two amendments, each of which deal with duplicates of Mississauga Lake.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mistflower Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Misthollow Square. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Misty Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Misty Hills Trail. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I would like to withdraw the following amendment which is a duplicate of the one that we've just dealt with.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mitcham Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mitchell Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I'd like to withdraw the following amendment which deals with Mitchell's Bay.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

Mr Wildman: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Could you please ascertain whether there's a quorum present, Chair.

The Chair: Could you please check if there is a quorum in the House.

Clerk Assistant: A quorum is not present, Chair.

The Chair ordered the bells rung.

Clerk Assistant: A quorum is now present, Chair.

The Chair: Thank you.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mitre Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moatfield Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moberly Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mobile Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moccasin Trail. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Model Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moeller Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moffatt Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moford Crescent.

Interjection: Montfort? Are they closing that?

The Chair: No, I didn't say that.

Interjections.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moford Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the motion, and the vote is deferred. You're getting me all confused here.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mogul Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moir Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moira Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mollard Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mona Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." And the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monaco Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monarch Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monarch Park Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the motion is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monarchdale Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) -- the typing is not correct here.

Mr Silipo: Monarchwood.

The Chair: What is it?

Mr Silipo: Monarchwood Crescent, m-o-n-a-r --

The Chair: No, that's not what I have.

Mr Silipo: That's not what you have? Do you have a Monclova?

The Chair: I have it now. NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monarchwood Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monclova Road.

Mr Dominic Agostino (Hamilton East): Could you spell it, please.

The Chair: M-o-n-c-l-o-v-a Road.

Interjection: It's in North York.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monclova Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moncrieff Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4).

Mr Agostino: The Deputy Speaker just waltzed to the lounge here and made some comment. I want to ask you, did you hear me say, "Go back and do your homework?"

The Chair: No, I didn't hear -- honestly. Would you please take your seat, the member for Hamilton East.

Mr Agostino: On a point of order, Mr Chair: The Deputy Speaker just waltzed through --

The Chair: Which Deputy Speaker?

Mr Agostino: Mr Johnson, and said, "Don't make that comment to me." I said, "What comment?" And he said, "The comment you just made to the Speaker, `Go back and do your homework.'" I certainly never made a comment as such. All I asked was for the spelling of the word and I'm not sure where the Deputy Speaker was hearing that from. I just want to clarify for you, Mr Chair, that certainly that comment was not made.

Interjections.

The Chair: Order. Take your seat, please.

Mr Kormos: A great deal of stress, fatigue -- auditory hallucinations are often symptomatic of the stress and fatigue that your colleague Speaker is undoubtedly experiencing. I think that explains and rationalizes his comment.

The Chair: That is totally unfair and I don't accept that. I find this remark totally derogatory and I would ask you to withdraw it.

Interjection: Apologize.

The Chair: I would ask you to withdraw it.

Mr Kormos: I'm just concerned about his health.

The Chair: It's totally not -- no, no; withdraw it --totally uncalled for. You know, everybody is tired. And we don't talk about people that way.

NDP motion --

Interjections.

The Chair: Order.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monet Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monkton Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monmouth Court.

Mr Hampton: Monmouth? Can you spell that please.

The Chair: M-o-n-m-o-u-t-h.

Mr Hampton: Thank you.

The Chair: I'll start again. NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monmouth Court. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monogram Place. Shall the motion carry?

Mr Hampton: Spell that please, Chair.

The Chair: Monogram, a monogram. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montague Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montana Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montavista Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montcalm Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montclair Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montcrest Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montebello Gardens. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monteith Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Monterrey Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montesson Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montezuma Trail. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montford Drive. Shall the motion carry?

Mr Wildman: They've reopened it.

The Chair: It's spelled Montford -- Ford -- Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montgomery Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montgomery Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

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Mr Silipo: A point of order, Mr Chair.

The Chair: A point of order. Take your seat. The member for Welland-Thorold, take your seat. A point of order.

Mr Silipo: Yes, Chair, I would withdraw the following amendment which I know should refer to Montreal Street, but because it doesn't have the street designation, left on its own it might read just as "Montreal," and that would be inappropriate so I would like to withdraw that.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): It could be pronounced either Montressor or Mont-ressor. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the motion is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montrose.

Mr Wildman: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Could you ascertain as to whether or not there is a quorum.

The Chair: Please check if there is a quorum.

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is present, Chair.

The Chair: NDP motion, subsection --

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I believe that there is a duplicate. There's Montrose, which is the one that's coming up, so I would like to withdraw that because the one that follows has Montrose Avenue.

The Chair: Withdrawn.

An NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montrose Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montvale Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montye Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the vote is deferred.

Mr Kormos: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Once again, and I understand the difficulty, but the Chair said: "All those in favour say `aye.' All those opposed say `nay,'" without giving people an opportunity to respond to the call for "ayes." With respect, sir.

The Chair: I heard people responding but if it is your wish, I will abide to that. I will read it again.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Montye Avenue. All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.

The Second Deputy Chair: This is an NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moon Valley Drive. Shall the motion carry?

Mr Agostino: Speaker, on a point of order: Can you spell that, please?

The Second Deputy Chair: Have you got a copy of these in front of you?

Mr Agostino: No, I don't, Mr Speaker.

The Second Deputy Chair: Would you make available to yourself your caucus copy so that you could use that. No, I will not spell it.

Mr Agostino: It's a point of order.

The Second Deputy Chair: That is not a point of order.

Mr Agostino: On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

The Second Deputy Chair: The chair recognizes the member for Hamilton East on a point of order.

Mr Agostino: Mr Speaker, I would ask for the spelling. The Speaker yesterday, if I remember correctly, in his ruling ruled that if the request was made for the spelling of a word then the chair would proceed to spell that word upon the request of a member, and I have made that request.

The Second Deputy Chair: The Speaker said that if there is a request to have one spelled, it should be done to accommodate something that is difficult, I assume, and so on. My ruling is going to be this: I will spell ones that I think should be difficult, and on request, I will spell others. But if I think that we aren't all here to expedite things -- in order words, if I am asked to spell every one or every other one, and people are not using the information that the Legislature has provided for them, then I may have to -- quite frankly, it might irritate me or something and I wouldn't want my personal things to come into this chair. So yes, I will spell this one.

Mr Agostino: A point of order, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: Pardon me, would you please take your seat. So yes, I will spell this because you have asked for it.

Mr Wildman: On a point of privilege, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: Could it please wait until I finish this.

Mr Wildman: Oh sure.

The Second Deputy Chair: M-o-o-n v-a-l-l-e-y.

Mr Wildman: On a point of privilege, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: The Chair recognizes the member for Algoma on a point of privilege.

Mr Wildman: As I understand it, Chair, all members were given the copy of the written motion with the spaces under sub (4) and then the first item --

The Second Deputy Chair: What's the privilege?

Mr Wildman: -- where the names of the streets are included --

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry, what's the privilege?

Mr Wildman: -- where the names of the streets are included is blank and so the privilege is this: If a person does not hear correctly or does not understand or doesn't know what the spelling might be, that person doesn't know exactly what she or he is voting on, and to suggest that the member should get the list I don't think is helpful because it isn't available to all members.

Mr Hampton: On a point of privilege, Mr Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: I have a point in front of me. Would you please take your seat.

The privilege is this: I don't want to even approach the point where I would impede anybody's privilege. I assume we are all here to expedite things, to get on with the thing, without any delays that would be interrupted as being frivolous or vexatious or make a mockery of this. I'm sure that isn't the intention. I assume we are all honourable and that is why it wouldn't be interrupted that way.

The Speaker has ruled that if I'm requested I will spell them. I can tell you that if it's my pronunciation or my enunciation or something then I'll try to improve that, but I don't think that the interpretation I have of the Speaker's ruling is that I have to spell every one. I don't think it would even be interrupted that I should have to spell every other one. It would seem to me that --

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order, order -- if there are ones that require some interpretation. Does that finish that point of privilege?

Mr Wildman: I understand.

Mr Hampton: On a point of privilege, Mr Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: The chair recognizes the member for Rainy River on a point of privilege.

Mr Hampton: Chair, I want to read for you from Beauchesne's Parliamentary Rules and Forms, 6th edition.

The Second Deputy Chair: Stop. Just a moment. I'm here to hear a point of privilege and I'm not here to have that read into the --

Mr Hampton: This is my point of privilege.

The Second Deputy Chair: No, I'm sorry, your privilege is not to get up and read out of that book. Your privilege is to make me aware of something that is being deprived of you, and if you tell me what that is and --

Mr Hampton: Yes and --

The Deputy Speaker: Pardon me, don't hurry me. If, to help you with that point you need to refer to something, then that I think is quite permissible.

Mr Hampton: It's a brief paragraph which is the foundation of my point of privilege, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: What is your point?

Mr Hampton: My point is this, Chair: You continue to emphasize that time is your major consideration. I want to point out to you, Chair: "The principles of Canadian parliamentary law are: To protect a minority and restrain the improvidence or tyranny of a majority." That is a principle, sir. It's not a matter of convenience. It's a principle. To protect --

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I think you have touched a sore button, maybe not on what you said but, with due respect, on the way you said it. I'm neither hard of hearing nor am I --

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Mr Hampton: I'm giving an argument, sir.

The Second Deputy Chair: Yes, okay.

Mr Hampton: I'm not entering into polite discussion. I'm giving an argument, as is my right in this Legislature, sir.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. This member is addressing this chair on a point of privilege and it is my duty, according to your rules, that I hear it out and that I give him every opportunity to make his point, to back it up, and then I have to make a ruling on it. So if you don't mind, I want your attention.

I would like to ask you if you could -- I guess it's something called demeanour; if you could temper that just a little bit then we wouldn't get into all these noisy responses.

Mr Hampton: Let me begin again then, Chair: "To protect a minority and restrain the improvidence or tyranny of a majority;..." That is a principle upon which we operate. Second, " -- to secure the transaction of public business in an orderly manner;..." I would assume that being able to hear and discern what is said is taken in to the term "orderly manner," "...to enable every member to express opinions," and I agree with you, "within [time] limits necessary to preserve decorum," is important, "and prevent any unnecessary waste of time."

I agree with you, that is one of the principles, but I ask you to look at the other principles, "...to give abundant opportunity for the consideration of every measure, and to prevent any legislative action being taken upon sudden impulse."

As I read these principles, sir, one of them refers to a timely manner; five of them refer to "protect a minority," "restrain the improvidence or tyranny of a majority," "secure the transaction of public business in an orderly manner; to enable every member to express opinions" -- right? -- "to give abundant opportunity for the consideration of every measure" --

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry, pardon me.

Mr Hampton: -- "to prevent any legislative action being taken upon sudden impulse."

The Second Deputy Chair: Pardon me, I wanted to ask a question. You used the word "right" in a questionable -- is that in that quote?

Mr Hampton: No, that was simply an utterance, a confirmation. My point is simply this, Chair: You seem to be placing one principle far above all of the other principles. You seem not to be worried about the protection of the minority. You seem not to be worried about the improvidence or tyranny of a majority. You seem not be worried about providing opportunity for consideration. You seem not be worried about preventing any legislative action being taken upon sudden impulse.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order, order.

Mr Hampton: I simply ask you, Chair: Observe all of the principles of parliamentary law.

The Second Deputy Chair: I have a question for you before I make my ruling. Does it say anything in that book about the protection of the majority or the rights of the majority?

Mr Hampton: In fact, Chair, no it doesn't.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I need that information in order to make my decision. If we can have order and decorum, I would like to consult and then I will give you my ruling.

Order. I'm addressing the Leader of the Opposition, the member for Rainy River, I'm sorry, the leader of the third party -- my apologies -- on his point of privilege. The point of privilege was time, I guess, and your interpretation of me trying to, I don't know if the term I might use would be to make time or to save time, or something, and going too fast, or something like that.

Mr Wildman: Expedite.

The Chair: I don't think I need any help right now, but if I do, I'll ask for it, and I consult with the table here when I need help.

I'd like to tell the member for Rainy River, if he's listening to me, that I've been in this chair 15 minutes now. I have heard two points of order. I've heard two points of privilege and I have not yet finished one item of business. I have never, ever said that it was my responsibility to save time or to make time. It's my job only to rule on your rules in this House and to expedite the business that's before us. But as a courtesy to you --

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order.

As a courtesy to you --

Interjection.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry, I'm addressing you. As a courtesy to the member of the third party, I will spell every street that is here. Is that --

Mr Wildman: That's not necessary.

Mr Curling: Upon request.

The Second Deputy Chair: No, no. I think it will expedite things in a more businesslike and parliamentary way if I would just do that because there is information that the members have not availed themselves of that would help them with it. I guess, if I have to, I'll bend over backwards in my job to try to help them.

M-o-o-n v-a-l-l-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moonbeam Grove, m-o-o-n-b-e-a-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moonstone Byway, m-o-o-n-s-t-o-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chairman: I would like to withdraw the next amendment, m-o-o-r-e, Moore, because it is a duplicate of the one that will follow.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moore Avenue, m-o-o-r-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moore Park Avenue --

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chairman.

The Second Deputy Chair: -- m-o-o-r-e p-a-r-k.

I'm sorry. I recognize the member for Dovercourt.

Mr Silipo: On that last one, Chair, I believe you did not call for the vote being deferred and there were five members standing.

The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm trying to do this the very best I can.

Mr Silipo: I appreciate that, sir.

The Second Deputy Chair: I am making mistakes and when I do, I want to correct them. That was Moore Avenue. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moore Park Avenue, m-o-o-r-e p-a-r-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moorecroft Crescent, m-o-o-r-e-c-r-o-f-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

If we could have a little more -- I don't want to rush people --

Mr Curling: We're waiting until you finish your sentence, Mr Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, thank you.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mooregate Avenue, m-o-o-r-e-g-a-t-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moorehill Drive, m-o-o-r-e-h-i-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moorehouse Drive, m-o-o-r-e-h-o-u-s-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moorehead Drive, m-o-o-r-e-h-e-a-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moraine Hill Drive, m-o-r-a-i-n-e h-i-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moran Road, m-o-r-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moray Place, m-o-r-a-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morbank Drive, m-o-r-b-a-n-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morecambe Gate, m-o-r-e-c-a-m-b-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morewood Crescent, m-o-r-e-w-o-o-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morgan Avenue, m-o-r-g-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morgandale Crescent, m-o-r-g-a-n-d-a-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morland Road, m-o-r-l-a-n-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morley Court, m-o-r-l-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

I'm sorry, on these standing votes there are a lot of points of order and a lot of points of privilege coming up, so if you're standing and talking, then I think you want my attention, so I would ask you to desist.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) --

Mr Curling: On a point of order, Mr Chairman: I just didn't understand what you said. I stood up -- could you explain what you said a minute ago?

The Second Deputy Chair: I wasn't talking to you.

Interjection.

Mr Curling: I can't hear with the interruption over --

The Second Deputy Chair: You'd have a heck of a lot better job hearing me if you weren't talking at the same time.

Mr Curling: And if they're not talking too.

The Second Deputy Chair: I said that when somebody is standing in this House in their place and they're speaking when I look up, I assume they want my attention for a point of order. That's the way you got my attention. So that if you're standing on a vote to call a division and you're standing there talking, then I think I should stop everything in this House and give you the attention that I think you're asking for.

NDP motion: Morna Avenue, m-o-r-n-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mornelle Court, m-o-r-n-e-l-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morning Dew Road, m-o-r-n-i-n-g d-e-w. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morning Glory Way, m-o-r-n-i-n-g g-l-o-r-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) --

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chairman: I'm sorry, I didn't catch this one fast enough. I would like to withdraw this amendment because it's a duplicate of the one we just passed.

The Second Deputy Chair: Morning Glory Way?

Mr Silipo: Yes.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morningside Avenue, m-o-r-n-i-n-g-s-i-d-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mornington Gate, m-o-r-n-i-n-g-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chairman: I would like to withdraw the next amendment, which deals with Morningview Trail, because it's a duplicate.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morningview Trail, m-o-r-n-i-n-g-v-i-e-w. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morrish Road, m-o-r-r-i-s-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morrison Avenue, m-o-r-r-i-s-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morrison Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morrow Avenue, m-o-r-r-o-w. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morse Street, m-o-r-s-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mortimer Avenue, m-o-r-t-i-m-e-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morton Drive, m-o-r-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Morton Road, m-o-r-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mosedale Crescent, m-o-s-e-d-a-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moselle Drive, m-o-s-e-l-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mosley Avenue, m-o-s-l-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mosque Crescent, m-o-s-q-u-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moss Street, m-o-s-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mossbank Drive, m-o-s-s-b-a-n-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mossbrook Crescent, m-o-s-s-b-r-o-o-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mossford Court, m-o-s-s-f-o-r-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4) --

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: You didn't rule on the vote being deferred.

The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, I'm sorry, pardon me. I appreciate the help, because I need as much as I can get. The vote is deferred. There were five members standing in their places. It is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mossgrove Trail, m-o-s-s-g-r-o-v-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I'd like to withdraw the following amendment, as it is a duplicate of the one we've just passed, Mosgrove Trail.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's a point of order, you're absolutely correct, and it's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mossom Place, m-o-s-s-o-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mossom Road, m-o-s-s-o-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mosswood Lane, m-o-s-s-w-o-o-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mould Avenue, m-o-u-l-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mount Olive Drive, m-o-u-n-t o-l-i-v-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mount Pleasant Road, m-o-u-n-t p-l-e-a-s-a-n-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mount Royal Avenue.

Mr Sergio: There are five standing up.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry. I appreciate the help from the member for Yorkview. There was somebody standing directly in front of --

Mr Sergio: Mr Agostino.

The Second Deputy Chair: The member who I was giving credit for being in his own place properly, but there was somebody in the way, and I'm sorry. I made a mistake. I apologize. We'll get over it, but thanks for your help. The motion is deferred.

Mr Sergio: Correct. Thank you, Mr Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm here to do the absolute best I can, and thanks for your help.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mount Royal Avenue, m-o-u-n-t r-o-y-a-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mount Stephen Street, m-o-u-n-t s-t-e-p-h-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mountain Ash Court, m-o-u-n-t-a-i-n a-s-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

I'm going to tell the members here just that I have a whole lot coming up right now in order that are Mount, m-o-u-n-t. If it changes, I'll let you know, but other than that, I may not spell that one.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mountalan Avenue, a-l-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mountbatten Road, b-a-t-t-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mountview Avenue, v-i-e-w. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: Mr Chair, on a point of order: The last one you dealt with was Mountview, I believe. Right?

The Second Deputy Chair: Yes.

Mr Silipo: I have in my package an amendment for a street, Mountjoy Avenue, which I believe precedes it. Is that not in your package?

The Second Deputy Chair: Apparently we have already done that one.

Mr Silipo: You've done it?

The Second Deputy Chair: According to the table.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: I want to explain things. I do my job, you people do your job, and I want to compliment the member for Dovercourt that you are doing your job very well, and I think the rest of the members deserve that too. I think the table people are doing -- my help has a motion with "Mountjoy" on it that says "D" on it, and I don't know whether that's defeated or deferred, but that's her coding on it -- oh, deferred.

Mr Silipo: The last I had heard was Mountbatten. I didn't hear Mountjoy.

The Second Deputy Chair: I had Mountview too since then.

Mr Silipo: That's what I'm saying. You went from Mountbatten to Mountview, and Mountjoy is in between.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm not here to argue with you. If you want me to do it again, I'll do it again.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry. I'm being a little flippant. This is a point of order. I'm making that ruling. If you would like to challenge --

Mr Silipo: No, no. I'm not interesting in challenging you. I just want to be clear. So what you're saying is that Mountjoy has in fact been deferred?

The Second Deputy Chair: Yes.

Mr Silipo: Even though we didn't deal with it. That's fine.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm saying we dealt with it, to the best of my ability.

The member for Yorkview on a point of order.

Mr Sergio: Not a point of order, just a comment.

The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, no, I'm sorry. We're not here to make comments.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moutray Street, m-o-u-t-r-a-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mowat, m-o-w-a-t --

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair --

The Second Deputy Chair: Withdraw?

Mr Silipo: Yes, withdraw that one please.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mowat Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay."

I spelled Mowat the time before, so I didn't here. Is there somebody who wants me to spell it again?

Interjection: No.

The Second Deputy Chair: In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection --

Mr Silipo: Mr Chair, on a point of order: I'd like to withdraw the following amendment dealing with Moxlay.

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The Second Deputy Chair: It is done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moyles Court, m-o-y-l-e-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moynes Avenue, m-o-y-n-e-s --

Mr Silipo: Mr Chair, on a point of order: On Moyles Court, I didn't hear you say that the vote was deferred or defeated.

The Second Deputy Chair: I may not have, but the vote was -- Moyles, was that the last one? Deferred.

Interjection.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I have two people standing, two people talking, and I don't know who I'm supposed to recognize. Are you standing on a point of order or a point of privilege?

Mr Sergio: I'm always standing up.

The Second Deputy Chair: Not wanting to give information or break the rules or anything. Fine. You may remain standing. I recognize the member for Rainy River -- on a point of privilege?

Mr Hampton: On a point of order: Chair, it's really important that you say whether or not the amendment is deferred or defeated, because if we don't hear it, and on a couple of occasions now we haven't heard it, we've got no choice but to rise on a point of order and ask, so it's really important that in every case you say whether the amendment has been deferred or defeated. That's what we ask of you.

The Second Deputy Chair: M-o-y-n-e-s --

Mrs Helen Johns (Huron): On a point of order: It's my understanding that five people have to be standing on the other side for the amendment to be deferred. In the last section, and I'm sure the honourable member will say that, the member for Scarborough North was not standing, and so the amendment should have been defeated.

Mr Curling: On a point of order --

The Second Deputy Chair: I'd like to address the point from the member for Huron. Yes, that is a point of order. I take a scan. I'm just trying to expedite this thing in the proper way, so I'm using my eyes to see, my ears to hear, and then I change and I look and I take a scan, and if five people are standing, I try to remember to say "deferred," and if they aren't, I try to remember to say "defeated." I'm doing the very best I can, but thanks very much for your help.

Hon Charles Harnick (Attorney General, minister responsible for native affairs): Chair, on a point of order: I notice that there is a pattern developing here where all of the NDP amendments are either being deferred or defeated, and I wonder if I could seek unanimous consent of all members to, in one motion, deal with all of the streets that are remaining so that we can move on to the next section of this bill, in which case none of the NDP streets that they feel so strongly about will be defeated because of their difficulty of standing. Then we could move this on. So it would be my request that we have unanimous consent in one motion to deal with all of the remaining streets that pertain to section 24(4) and then it will be deferred and they won't have to worry about any of their amendments being defeated.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. It is a point of order. I'll ask the question. Do we have unanimous consent? I'm sorry, there is no unanimous consent.

I'm sorry. I have three people in this chamber standing, talking, and I want to give them the attention that they want. Unless I'm mistaken, the member for Scarborough North was up before you, but I'm addressing myself to different places and so on. Am I correct in that?

Mr Curling: I go by your ruling. If you want me to sit down, I'll sit. If you want me to go ahead --

The Second Deputy Chair: No, no. That isn't my job to tell you whether to -- if you're standing on a point of order, then I want to know what the point of order is.

Mr Curling: The point of order is I didn't hear your decision whether it was deferred or it was defeated.

The Second Deputy Chair: Which one?

Interjection.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry, which motion are you asking about?

Mr Curling: The one that is questioning the fact whether I was standing or not.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm not going to rule on that. I don't know --

Mr Curling: But it was deferred.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry. I don't know if you were standing or not.

Mr Bill Murdoch (Grey-Owen Sound): What was the name of the street?

The Second Deputy Chair: No, no, no. Order. The member for Grey-Owen Sound, please come to order.

Mr Murdoch: What was the name of the street?

The Second Deputy Chair: No, no, no. Come to order. I want to explain this because I want this job to get done in the expedient manner that you want it done.

I'm addressing the member for Scarborough North. I want to tell you the process, because maybe you haven't been here before. I've only been at this job for 32 hours. So I appreciate the help. After the "nays" have been taken, and this is a point of order, then the rules say that five members must be standing in their places to request a division.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I don't want to be interrupted. I take a scan and if five members are standing in their places, then I say -- I try to remember to say "deferred." I've missed two in the last hour, but they've been corrected, I hope. But I can't tell you who was standing. Heaven's sakes. I'd have to name the members, and you know what that would do. That would cause another problem. So no, if five members are standing, it's deferred. If four or less are standing, it's defeated.

Mr Curling: Right.

The Second Deputy Chair: When there are two people standing I have to try to say who was up first and, yes, the Chair recognizes the member for Dovercourt on a point of order.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I just wanted to be clear that the member for Willowdale, when he made his request, which was obviously appropriate and within the rules if he wants to make that, but he referred to the streets as NDP streets, and I'm sure that he would want to correct the record because these of course are not NDP streets. These are streets in the urban area that we are dealing with.

The Second Deputy Chair: No, it's an NDP motion and then the streets come down within it, but would you like to withdraw or was that just an inadvertent mistake or is it a mistake?

Hon Mr Harnick: No, Chair. There was nothing inadvertent about that. They are NDP amendments, so they are streets that are in the NDP amendments.

Mr Silipo: That clarifies it.

Hon Mr Harnick: Certainly, I think that what I've indicated to the opposition is because a number -- right now there are only three members in the Legislature -- they can't stand so their amendments are being defeated, and what I'm offering them on the basis of unanimous consent is the opportunity to have all of their amendments pursuant to 24(4) deferred and not defeated, and we're prepared to seek unanimous consent to see if they want to do that, and I renew that.

The Second Deputy Chair: Thank you for that. The member for Dovercourt, the member for Mississauga South was up before you. So the Chair is recognizing the member for Mississauga South.

Mrs Margaret Marland (Mississauga South): The process in this House for voting when you ask for the "ayes" and the "nays" has always been very straightforward and quite traditional, and when you decide that the nays have it, it doesn't matter in what motion, it doesn't matter the nays on one side of the House or the other, the people who do not agree then must stand in their place. And that process, that procedure is well recognized and has been used probably for in excess of 100 years in our parliaments in Upper Canada.

We now have a system where all members on the opposition benches are standing all the time, and I simply ask you, how we have now slid into a process where you don't know if they're standing because they want to stretch or because they can't sit or for some other reason. So unless they make the action of standing to record opposition and five standing in their places, we're slipping into a very sloppy procedure, and I suggest to you that in order for these votes to be registered properly, it is necessary for members to stand in their place. If they're standing all the time, one of the complications for you is that you don't know whether they're registering their vote or not.

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Frankly, I think it's unacceptable for the lame and the maim and so forth to say, "Well, I want special dispensation because I have a problem. Send in someone else from the caucus if that is the case.

The Second Deputy Chair: The Chair wants to address the point of order to the member from Mississauga. I think that is a point of order.

The member for Mississauga South has a point of order, and I'm going to clarify it for all -- I was going to say forever, but no. It comes under 28(a). "When a voice vote has been taken on any question, a division may be required by five members standing in their places."

I have interpreted that -- they don't have to sit down in between, and so I guess that is my ruling, but you have the ability to appeal to the Speaker if you question my ruling.

Interjection.

The Second Deputy Chair: That is my ruling. So, yes, they may stand all the time, as long as they're in place in a parliamentary way. I'm ruling that that is decorum.

Please take your seats for a minute. Please take your seats. I wanted to get away from this lecturing because I don't feel right that I did it, but I feel that I'm being taken advantage of. Right now, I've been in this Chair for about an hour. I have taken three points of privilege. I've taken at least 10 points of order from one party, six from the other two parties. I think I have two more points of order to deal with, and let me tell you that I have only processed 61 of these amendments.

Let me be very clear that I could do that many when I had to read every word in this 254-word motion. I did 103 in a shift, I did over 50 an hour. I don't want to trivialize this. I don't want to get into this thing about making a mockery of this place or trivializing it. But I want to be very clear that it is my job to let this House proceed at a rate that will expedite its business. If there are members that don't want me to do that, then I wish that they would have a talk with themselves and decide, because if I have to, if I feel that any members are not wanting to expedite the work of this House, then I will be naming them and I will be doing that.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I appreciate your warning, I guess, is what I would take it as to us.

The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, no, I wouldn't warn anybody.

Mr Silipo: Okay, your comments then, but I think you obviously have to deal with each point of order as it is raised and decide whether it's appropriate or not and then determine your actions as a consequence.

I wanted to rise on a point of order to ask that you remind members that it's inappropriate and contrary to the rules to point to the presence or indeed the absence of members, and the member for Willowdale earlier on in a point referred to the absence of members on the opposition bench, and I think that's out of order, and I would ask you to apply the rules in cases like that.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry, it's not my habit to debate rules of order. I want to be very clear to the member for Dovercourt, because quite frankly I want to point out in a complimentary way the demeanour with which you have conducted yourself over the last 32 hours that I've been in this chair.

Let me be very clear, the rules say, and it is a point of order, that a member cannot make reference to the absence of members. I know of nothing that says that they can't make a reference to the presence of a member. That is my ruling. If you want to appeal?

Mr Silipo: No.

The Second Deputy Chair: Okay, are we ready to proceed?

Mr Agostino: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I'll respond because I think there was a comment made by the member --

The Second Deputy Chair: No, I'm sorry. No. We're not here to debate any responses. You're rising on a point of order.

Mr Agostino: Point of order.

The Second Deputy Chair: Please take your seat for a minute. I want to explain what a point of order is. A point of order is that I'm doing something wrong, there's something wrong going on in the House, but it's not to debate. We're in committee of the whole. We are supposed to be expediting the reading of these --

Mr Agostino: On a point of privilege --

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. We're supposed to be here to expedite the reading of these amendments into the records. That is what I've been told. If I'm doing something wrong, then tell me, but don't ask me to let you discuss something else that's been said or hasn't been said or anything else like that.

Mr Agostino: I had a point of privilege.

The Second Deputy Chair: Sit down, please. Please take your seat.

Mr Agostino: Let me make my point of privilege.

The Second Deputy Chair: Please take your seat. You were on a point of order. I want to make a ruling on that. It was not a point of order.

Mr Agostino: Here's the point: A few minutes ago -- and I think a member's privilege has been breached -- the member for Mississauga South made reference to members who have been given special circumstances to vote in different ways in this House. This House, by unanimous consent, allowed one member because of an injury to be able to vote in a way different than simply standing up, and I think the questioning of that decision by the member and the insensitivity is totally irresponsible based on a decision that was made by this House as a result of the fact that a member was injured and could not stand up. I think the member for Mississauga South should realize that and show a little bit of common sense rather than simply sit there and take shot at members across the floor who sitting there with a knee injury.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. That is not a point of privilege.

Mr Sergio: On a point of order, Mr Chair: You have ruled on the point of order by the member for Willowdale as being a good point of order when he suggested that we should vote on all the amendments since he has named the NDP as willing to let every amendment be defeated. I'd like to recall the ruling of the Speaker yesterday that every amendment must be read by name as it's being considered today.

Therefore, I consider that if a member does not wish to stand in his place and wishes to have the amendment be defeated, so be it. It is your responsibility, as you have been doing, you have been calling for the votes on both sides of the House and if one amendment loses, that's fine. If it's deferred, that's fine as well.

As you have ruled and I accept your ruling, each member should be standing in their place to be eligible to vote, and we have accepted that, but to say that we are going to vote on all the amendments because they are NDP streets or because they are all the same, I think this has already been decided and should not be brought again and continue to waste the time of the House.

The Second Deputy Chair: That is not a point of order, but I want to give an explanation of why it isn't. The member for Willowdale was asking for unanimous consent.

Mr Sergio: We had already decided that.

The Second Deputy Chair: Pardon me, but you can ask for unanimous consent for nearly everything. I was not ruling on whether it was good or not. That's not my point. I'm just ruling on points of order, points of privilege, some interjections and trying to expedite the business of this committee.

If it would expedite things and I could get on with it without points of order and points of privilege and all these interruptions, I would read every one these. I think I could get through them faster. I'm sorry, I apologize. That's a personal comment and I shouldn't get into that. Are we ready to proceed?

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Moynes Avenue, m-o-y-n-e-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mozart, m-o-z-a-r-t, Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): "residents of living in" -- please tell me you're going to withdraw this.

Mr Silipo: That's what I was trying to get your attention to do. Yes.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mt Pleasant Road, m-t p-l-e-a-s-a-n-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mt Royal -- I'm waiting for the member. There's no street designation.

Mr Silipo: There is no street designation. All right, then we'll withdraw that, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muir Avenue, m-u-i-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I'd like to withdraw the following amendment which deals also with Muir Avenue. It's a duplicate.

The Second Deputy Chair: It is done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muir Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muirbank Blvd, m-u-i-r-b-a-n-k b-l-v-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muircrest Drive, m-u-i-r-c-r-e-s-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muirhead Road, m-u-i-r-h-e-a-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muirkirk Road, m-u-i-r-k-i-r-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muirlands Drive, m-u-i-r-l-a-n-d-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mulberry Crescent, m-u-l-b-e-r-r-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muldrew Avenue, m-u-l-d-r-e-w. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mulgrove Drive, m-u-l-g-r-o-v-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mulham Place, m-u-l-h-a-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mulholland Avenue, m-u-l-h-o-l-l-a-n-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mullet Road, m-u-l-l-e-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mulock Avenue, m-u-l-o-c-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muncey Avenue, m-u-n-c-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Munford Crescent, m-u-n-f-o-r-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Munhall Road, m-u-n-h-a-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Munham Gate, m-u-n-h-a-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Munition Street, m-u-n-i-t-i-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Munro Blvd, m-u-n-r-o b-l-v-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Munro Park Avenue, m-u-n-r-o p-a-r-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Munson Crescent, m-u-n-s-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Munster Avenue, m-u-n-s-t-e-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. NDP motion, subsection 24(4) --

Mr Silipo: And further, Chair?

The Second Deputy Chair: Did I forget again? I am sorry. I'm making more mistakes than anybody else here. The vote is deferred. Sorry about that.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murchison Crescent, m-u-r-c-h-i-s-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Mr Hampton: And?

The Second Deputy Chair: The vote -- I'm sorry. The member for Rainy River on a point of order.

Mr Hampton: No, I was waiting.

Mr Curling: Deferred or defeated.

The Second Deputy Chair: No, that isn't -- in this House we're allowing you to stand, but if you're standing and talking then I think that you want to be on a point of order or a point of privilege. I don't want to make a mistake. I've already made more than anybody should, but I'm doing the absolutely best that I can and I can't have those kind of interruptions.

Mr Hampton: Very good.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair --

The Second Deputy Chair: Now, I like that. You're standing and you're talking and I recognize the member for Dovercourt.

Mr Silipo: I said "point of order" even. I thought in fact that's what the member for Rainy River was going to raise as a point of order, that on that last one you did not say, "The vote is deferred," and there were five members standing.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'm not there yet.

Mr Silipo: You're not there yet? Oh, wonderful. Okay.

The Second Deputy Chair: But listen, I'm glad I'm not the only one that slips up once in a while. There were five up so it is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murdock Avenue --

Mr Murdoch: On a point of order, Chair: Could you spell that, please.

The Second Deputy Chair: The Chair recognizes the member for Grey-Owen Sound on a point of order.

Mr Murdoch: I'd like it spelled.

The Second Deputy Chair: M-u-r-d-o-c-k.

Mr Murdoch: I know in this book of streets there is a Murdoch Drive, which is spelled with an h like the proper spelling, and I wonder if there's a conspiracy here with the opposition because they used to spell their Murdock -- and there was a Murdock on their caucus and she spelled her name with a k. Maybe the next one is h. Is the next street Murdoch Drive?

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The Second Deputy Chair: It is not a point of order.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: After we deal with this amendment, I would be happy to move unanimous consent to have Murdoch Drive, that the member for Grey-Owen Sound referred to, added as a further amendment. Of course we would require unanimous consent at this point.

Interjections: No.

The Second Deputy Chair: Member for Grey-Owen Sound, that is not a point of order. Are we ready to get on with things? I've had a really nice rest during all this.

Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murellen Crescent, m-u-r-e-l-l-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muriel Avenue, m-u-r-i-e-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murison Blvd, m-u-r-i-s-o-n b-l-v-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murmouth Road --

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I can't have members standing and talking. I don't want to have to go down and sit down and up and down. I don't want to go over and over this, but if you're standing and talking -- I've already dealt with about 30 points of order, so I'm not about to slow down the business of this House to address this any more -- m-u-r-m-o-u-t-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murray Avenue, m-u-r-r-a-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murray Glen Drive, g-l-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murray Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murray Ross Pky, r-o-s-s p-k-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murray Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Murrie Street, m-u-r-r-i-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Musgrave Street, m-u-s-g-r-a-v-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Muskoka Avenue, m-u-s-k-o-k-a.

Mrs Marland: No.

Mr Silipo: No, what? The Chair hasn't even asked the question.

The Second Deputy Chair: No, but the end of it says, "o-k-a"; okay, eh? Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred. I just did that because I was told one time that I didn't have a sense of humour.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mutual Street, m-u-t-u-a-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Myers Lane, m-y-e-r-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mylesview. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Myrna Lane, m-y-r-n-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Myrtle Avenue, m-y-r-t-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Mystic Avenue, m-y-s-t-i-c. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nably Court, n-a-b-l-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nabob Crescent, n-a-b-o-b. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nagel Road, n-a-g-e-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Naglesey --

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I'd like to withdraw this, as it doesn't have a street designation on it.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nahanni Terr, n-a-h-a-n-n-i t-e-r-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nairn Avenue, n-a-i-r-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Namco Road, n-a-m-c-o. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nanton Avenue, n-a-n-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is -- the member for Lawrence, are you standing to get my attention or are you standing to call a division?

Mr Joseph Cordiano (Lawrence): I'm in my seat, sir.

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The Second Deputy Chair: Okay. You weren't here before; I'll explain it once more. If you're standing and you're talking, I have a whole lot of things to do. I'm trying to follow the absolute rules of it and the rules that you have, but if you're standing and talking, I think you want me. So I don't know if it's a point of order, a point of privilege, asking to seek unanimous consent or any other reason that you might want my attention. I don't mind a person just standing there to reflect that, but if you're standing and talking, then I think you want my attention and you are distracting me. Is that a problem?

Mr Cordiano: No, that's understood, Mr Chair. If we do want your attention, you'll know it.

The Second Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nanton Avenue, n-a-n-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I believe we don't have quorum.

The Second Deputy Chair: Very important to have that in before this vote is recorded. Did you ask me to find out, or are you just telling me that you don't think there is?

Mr Silipo: I believe quorum is not present, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: I will check and make sure, and if it isn't, I'll make sure that it is before I proceed. Would you check and see if there's a quorum here, please.

Clerk Assistant: A quorum is not present, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair ordered the bells rung.

Clerk Assistant: A quorum is now present, Chair.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: The vote is deferred. I missed that two times this morning -- this afternoon. You do lose track here. So I wanted to get that in. I knew where I'd stopped and so on.

The Chair recognizes the member for Dovercourt on a point of order.

Mr Silipo: I would like to withdraw the following amendment, Nantucket Boulevard, I think, because it's a duplicate. I'm not sure if we've just done one or if you were about to get into the first of the two.

The Second Deputy Chair: Some people consider that a short form. Do you want to do the "Bl" or the "Blvd"?

Mr Silipo: I think we should keep the "Blvd" because that's closer to "Boulevard," or "bulved," as you've decreed it on other occasions.

The Second Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nantucket Blvd, n-a-n-t-u-c-k-e-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Napanee Court, n-a-p-a-n-e-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Narrow Bay, n-a-r-r-o-w. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Narrows Road, n-a-r-r-o-w-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nash Drive, n-a-s-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

The Chair recognizes the member for Dovercourt on a point of order.

Mr Silipo: Mr Chair, I'd like to withdraw the following amendment, Nashdene. It's a duplicate.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nashdene Road, n-a-s-h-d-e-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nashland Avenue, n-a-s-h-l-a-n-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nashville Avenue, n-a-s-h-v-i-l-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nasmith Avenue, n-a-s-m-i-t-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nassau Street, n-a-s-s-a-u. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Natal Avenue, n-a-t-a-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nature Path Way, n-a-t-u-r-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Navaho Drive, n-a-v-a-h-o. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Navarre Crescent, n-a-v-a-r-r-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Navenby Crescent, n-a-v-e-n-b-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Wildman: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I would like to withdraw the next amendment.

The Second Deputy Chair: Nbonnington?

Mr Wildman: Yes.

The Second Deputy Chair: It is done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nccowen Road.

Mr Wildman: I believe that we would like to withdraw that as well. It is misspelled.

The Second Deputy Chair: I could spell it anyway.

Mr Wildman: No, it's not spelled correctly.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nealon Avenue, n-e-a-l-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Neames Crescent, n-e-a-m-e-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Neapolitan Drive, n-e-a-p-o-l-i-t-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nearwood Gate, n-e-a-r-w-o-o-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nebula Star Way, n-e-b-u-l-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Neddie Drive, n-e-d-d-i-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nedgeley.

Mr Hampton: That should be withdrawn.

The Second Deputy Chair: It is done. There isn't any of getting these withdrawn ahead of time? There isn't any way of getting these done ahead of time?

Mr Hampton: We've done that with some of them, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: All we can do is do our best.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Neilson Avenue, n-e-i-l-s-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Neilson Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Neilson Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Neiltree Court, n-e-i-l-t-r-e-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nelles Avenue, n-e-l-l-e-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nelson Street, n-e-l-s-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

The Chair recognizes the member for Scarborough North on a point of order.

Mr Curling: One previous to this, I did not hear you say whether the vote is deferred or defeated. Maybe you made a mistake there.

The Second Deputy Chair: Which one did I miss on?

Mr Curling: Just before this one.

The Second Deputy Chair: The last one? What was the name of it? Nelles Avenue, was that the one?

Mr Curling: Yes.

The Second Deputy Chair: Did I not say that?

Mr Curling: No.

The Second Deputy Chair: I do apologize. The vote is deferred. Order. I am trying to do a point of order over here. I need the members in their seats. I am addressing your point of order. I'd like your attention as well.

Mr Curling: I am undivided.

The Second Deputy Chair: I do make mistakes. This is quite a job. I am just doing it as well as I can, so if I miss one, by all means please let me know.

Mr Curling: That is what I did.

The Second Deputy Chair: Thank you. Nelles Avenue is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nelson Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Neptune Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nero Court, n-e-r-o. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nesbitt Drive, n-e-s-b-i-t-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ness Drive, n-e-s-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Neston Avenue, n-e-s-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Netheravon Road, n-e-t-h-e-r-a-v-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Netherley Drive, n-e-t-h-e-r-l-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Netherwood Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nettlecreek Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nevada Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I would like to withdraw this amendment.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Neville Park Blvd, n-e-v-i-l-le p-a-r-k b-l-v-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): New Forest Sq, n-e-w f-o-r-e-s-t s-q. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): New Haven Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): New Street, n-e-w. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): New Toronto Street. I am not going to spell that one. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Chair: I would like to withdraw the following amendment, which deals with New Woodbine Race Track.

The Second Deputy Chair: Withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newark Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newbold Avenue, n-e-w-b-o-l-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newbridge Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newbury Lane, n-e-w-b-u-r-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newcastle Street, n-e-w-c-a-s-t-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newcross Drive, n-e-w-c-r-o-s-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newdawn Crescent, n-e-w-d-a-w-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newell Court, n-e-w-e-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newgale Gate, n-e-w-g-a-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newgate Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newholm Road, n-e-w-h-o-l-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newington Crescent, n-e-w-i-n-g-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newkirk Road, n-e-w-k-i-r-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newlands Avenue, n-e-w-l-a-n-d-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newlin Crescent, n-e-w-l-i-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newlove Court, n-e-w-l-o-v-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newman Avenue, n-e-w-m-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newmarket Avenue, n-e-w-m-a-r-k-e-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newport Avenue, n-e-w-p-o-r-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newstead Road, n-e-w-s-t-e-a-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Newton Drive, n-e-w-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Niagara Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

I'll withdraw this one.

Mr Hampton: You have a blank.

The Second Deputy Chair: Yes.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Niantic Crescent, n-i-a-n-t-i-c. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nicholson Drive, n-i-c-h-o-l-s-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nickle Street, n-i-c-k-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nicolan Road, n-i-c-o-l-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nightingale Place, n-i-g-h-t-i-n-g-a-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nile Street, n-i-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nina Street, n-i-n-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nineteenth Street, n-i-n-e-t-e-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Ninth Street, n-i-n-t-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nipigon Avenue, n-i-p-i-g-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nipissing Drive, n-i-p-i-s-s-i-n-g. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Niska Road, n-i-s-k-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Niven Street, n-i-v-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

The Chair recognizes the member for Dovercourt on a point of order.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Mr Chair: The next one is just a misprint. I'll withdraw it. It says "NK Address."

The Second Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nobert Road, n-o-b-e-r-t. Shall the motion carry?

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: Don't withdraw that one on me. The Chair recognizes the member for Dovercourt on a point of order.

Mr Silipo: I believe a quorum is not present, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: I'll check.

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Mr John R. Baird (Nepean): Point of order --

The Second Deputy Chair: No, I'm sorry. I want to explain carefully. I want to be clear about this. I do not take debate on points of order.

Mr Baird: It is the same point.

The Second Deputy Chair: It's not my habit to do that. In this case I am tempted to because I am inquisitive. I recognize the member for Nepean on a point of order.

Mr Baird: On the same point of order as my colleague the member for Dovercourt, Chair: I know it's a serious point of order on his part. Can you count all the Liberal and NDP members who raced out just before he got up? They are all right behind the counter over there.

The Second Deputy Chair: No, I'm sorry. I just had confirmed why I should not have made an exception to my habit. Do we have a count?

Clerk Assistant: A quorum is not present, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair ordered the bells rung.

Clerk Assistant: A quorum is now present, Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: We will proceed.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nobert Road. I'm not going to read that one again. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): --

Mr Baird: Mario was late.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. We can't have this talking back and forth. This is a tedious job. I'm doing the best I can, but I can't have these kinds of interruptions.

The member for Dovercourt, you'll want to withdraw this one, I believe: Noble.

Mr Silipo: Yes, thank you, Chair. I appreciate that. We were both distracted by someone. I'd be happy to withdraw this one that deals with Noble because it's a duplicate.

The Second Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Noble Street, n-o-b-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Noel Avenue, n-o-e-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Noganosh Road, n-o-g-a-n-o-s-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nomad Crescent, n-o-m-a-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nootka Crescent, n-o-o-t-k-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Order. I can't have people standing at the same time they are talking.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nora Road, n-o-r-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Noranda Drive, n-o-r-a-n-d-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norbert Crescent, n-o-r-b-e-r-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." The vote is deferred.

Mr Hampton: Important step.

The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, I'm sorry. In my opinion, the nays have it. There were five up, so this is deferred. Sorry to miss that.

Order. Please take your seats. The Chair recognizes the member for Hamilton East on a point of order.

Mr Agostino: Previous to an earlier point of privilege -- it's a point of privilege, not a point of order -- to the comment made by the member for Mississauga South, we've had two calls from members of the disabled community in reference to that comment seeking an apology. It was a highly offensive comment to people who are disabled.

The Second Deputy Chair: Will you take your seat. I want to make a ruling. I want to do the best I can to make sure it's right. My ruling on your point of order is this: We are in committee of the whole. My purpose here is to read these into the record. We are not in debate. What you are about to want to do is entering into debate, so that is not a point of order.

Mr Agostino: Mr Chair, could I ask you to rule on something?

The Second Deputy Chair: The Chair recognizes the member for Hamilton East on a --

Mr Agostino: On a point of order in regard to the functioning of this Legislature that you're now in charge of. Is it established principle and practice that all members, regardless of disability or ailment, are allowed to sit in this House and serve as a member of this --

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. Would you take your seat please. That is not a point of order.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norbrook Crescent, n-o-r-b-r-o-o-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norbury Crescent, n-o-r-b-u-r-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Interjections.

The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I can't have members standing and talking. I've gone through, I would guess, 30 or 40 points of order in less than the last two hours, and the way to get my attention is to stand in your place on a point of order and seek my attention. If you're going to be standing all the time, then I'm sorry, I can't have you talking. I'll bring you to order one more time.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norby Crescent, n-o-r-b-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norcap Avenue, n-o-r-c-a-p. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norcrest Drive, n-o-r-c-r-e-s-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norcross Road, n-o-r-c-r-o-s-s. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Interjection.

The Second Deputy Chair: Member for Yorkview, I made a ruling a long time ago and I repeated it a little while ago. I'll need your cooperation on it please.

Mr Sergio: I'm not speaking, Mr Chair.

The Second Deputy Chair: If I have the wrong member, I do apologize, but somebody was standing and talking and I'm distracted by it. I'm making mistakes because of it, and I can't have it.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nordale Crescent, n-o-r-d-a-l-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norden Crescent, n-o-r-d-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nordic Place, n-o-r-d-i-c. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nordin Avenue, n-o-r-d-i-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

The Second Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4), Noreen Drive, n-o-r-e-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norelco Drive, n-o-r-e-l-c-o. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norfield Crescent, n-o-r-f-i-e-l-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norfinch Drive, n-o-r-f-i-n-c-h. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norfolk Avenue, n-o-r-f-o-l-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norfolk Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norgrove Crescent, n-o-r-g-r-o-v-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norham Crescent, n-o-r-h-a-m. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norhead Avenue, n-o-r-h-e-a-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Normana Avenue, n-o-r-m-a-n-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Baird: Point of order, Madam Chair: I would ask, given that motions need a mover and a seconder and given that there is only one NDP member and one Liberal member present, is that in order?

The First Deputy Chair: I want to remind the member for Nepean again that these motions are deemed to have been moved. Also, they don't need a seconder anyway, even if they needed to be moved. Thank you for that point of order.

Mr Cordiano: Madam Chair, I don't believe a quorum is present.

The First Deputy Chair: Is there a quorum?

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is not present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair ordered the bells rung.

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is now present, Chair.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Madam Chair: I believe the member for Nepean was out of order when he called to the attention of the House the absence of members. That is contrary to the rules and I would ask you to enforce that rule. We went through this with the previous Chair as well.

Mr Baird: Point of order, Chair: I would like to respond. The member for Dovercourt has been here for one more term than I have and I respect his judgement on this issue. I withdraw those comments. I will not mention the fact that there was only one Liberal member and one NDP member present. I apologize.

The First Deputy Chair: Oh, come on now. Order, please. As everybody here knows, it is the practice around here that we don't comment on members missing from the chamber, and I would appreciate it if people would bear that in mind.

Okay. Are we ready? I am if you are. Let's go.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Normandale Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

Mr Agostino: Point of order, Chair: Can you continue the practice of the previous Chair? It made it easier for us so we didn't have to get up and ask on individual cases. Can you continue spelling the street names, if that's in order? Rather than us having to get up and ask, it's probably faster.

The First Deputy Chair: If people want me to spell each one, I will, but let me tell you what I've been doing on my previous shifts since this new ruling of just reading the street names. I have been reading the ones that I believe are very obvious, say Main Street or the next one coming up, Normandy Boulevard, and I have been spelling each and every one where I think there might be any question whatsoever. That's been working very well. In my view, spelling out Main Street or something like that is ridiculous because people can understand it. Let's try that for a while and see if it works for people. Okay?

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Normandy Boulevard. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norris Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norris Glen Road. That's three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norris Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norseman Street, n-o-r-s-e-m-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Bonnington Avenue, b-o-n-n-i-n-g-t-o-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Carson Street. That's three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Channel Drive, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Edgely Avenue, e-d-g-e-l-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Heights Road, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Hills Terrace, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Kingslea Drive, three words, k-i-n-g-s-l-e-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Rivermede Road, r-i-v-e-r-m-e-d-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Wind Place, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): North Woodrow Boulevard, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northampton Drive. "Northampton" is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northbrook Road. "Northbrook" is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northcliffe Boulevard. "Northcliffe" is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northcote Avenue, n-o-r-t-h-c-o-t-e, one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northcrest Road. "Northcrest" is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northdale Boulevard. "Northdale" is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northdale Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northern Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northey Drive, n-o-r-t-h-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred. Sorry, that vote lost. Point of order, member for Dovercourt.

Mr Silipo: I believe a quorum is not present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: Is there a quorum?

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is not present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair ordered the bells rung.

Clerk at the Table: Chair, a quorum is now present.

The First Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northfield Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northgate Drive, northgate is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northglen Avenue, northglen is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northland Avenue, northland is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northleigh Drive, n-o-r-t-h-l-e-i-g-h, one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northline Road, northline is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northmount Avenue, northmount is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northolt Court, n-o-r-t-h-o-l-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northover, n-o-r-t-h-o-v-e-r. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northridge Avenue, that's one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northshore, northshore is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northumberland Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

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NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northview Avenue, northview is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Northview Terrace, northview is one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." The vote is lost. Point of order, member for Dovercourt.

Mr Silipo: I believe a quorum is not present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: Is there a quorum?

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is not present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair ordered the bells rung.

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is now present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norval Street, n-o-r-v-a-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norwalk Street, n-o-r-w-a-l-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norway Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norway Pt. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norwich Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norwin Street, n-o-r-w-i-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norwood Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Norwood Terrace. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Notley Place, n-o-t-l-e-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred. Point of order, member for Dovercourt.

Mr Silipo: I'd like to withdraw the following amendment dealing with Notre Dame.

The First Deputy Chair: That's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nottawa Avenue, n-o-t-t-a-w-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is lost.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nottawasaga Court, n-o-t-t-a-w-a-s-a-g-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nottingham Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nottinghill Gate. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nottinghill Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nuffield Drive, n-u-f-f-i-e-l-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Madam Chair: I'd like to withdraw the next amendment dealing with Nugent. That's a duplicate with the one that will follow.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay. That's Nugent withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nugent Road, n-u-g-e-n-t. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nugget Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I'd like to withdraw the next amendment dealing also with Nugget Avenue which we've just dealt with. It's a duplicate.

The First Deputy Chair: It's a duplication. That's withdrawn, and Nugget, that's withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nursewood Road, n-u-r-s-e-w-o-o-d. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is defeated.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Nymark Avenue, n-y-m-a-r-k. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): O'Brien Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): O'Donnell Avenue, o-'-d-o-n-n-e-l-l. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): O'Halloran Crescent, o-'-h-a-l-l-o-r-a-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): O'Hara Avenue, o-'-h-a-r-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.

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Mr Silipo: Point of order, Chair: I believe that quorum is not present.

The First Deputy Chair: Could you check for a quorum.

Clerk at the Table: Quorum is not present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair ordered the bells to be rung.

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is now present, Chair.

Mr Baird: Point of order, Mr Chair: I'm referring to standing orders 11(a) and standing orders 19.

If I could draw your attention to standing orders 19 perhaps first, in the column beside section 19 it says, "No strangers on floor, etc." It points to the word "floor" when referring to 19. "Except as provided in standing order 103, no member of the House shall bring any stranger into any part of the House," etc. It uses the word "floor."

I use that terminology to draw that to your attention in relation to number 11(a), which reads as follows, "The presence of at least 20 members of the House, including the Speaker, is necessary to constitute a meeting of the House for the exercise of its powers."

My specific point of order is a genuine one. You may want to reflect on it. I agree with the decisions you raised earlier. I not only accept them but I agree with you on them.

The specific nature of my concern is that if members are in the House, in the confines of the four walls -- there are members who, two seconds before a quorum is raised -- for example, the member for Rainy River said, "Let's go for a smoke," and all of the Liberal and NDP members, save the member for Dovercourt, departed with him. I am specifically relating to that; given that they are in the House, just over there, they are still in the House, and by relation to the term "floor" in section 19 of the act and in relation to the term "House" in section 11(a), I think a reasonable case could be made that you are in the House if you are within the four walls of this room, of this place, and would submit that to you for your consideration.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. Just give me a moment here.

I'd like to tell people I've accepted that as a legitimate point of order from the member for Nepean, and we're in the process of trying to ascertain the actual answer to this.

All right. Thank you for --

Mr Curling: I want to say something before your ruling.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay. On the same point of order?

Mr Curling: I want to bring your attention to the same section, 11(a), as the member for Nepean had mentioned. It expressly says that, "The presence of at least 20 members of the House, including the Speaker" -- or the Chairman, I would presume -- "is necessary to constitute a meeting of the House for the exercise of its powers." We know that there are over 80-odd members of the Tories, and they are complaining that they can't find even sufficient members to constitute a quorum.

Now the other point I want to make: His comment that the leader of the third party said, "Let's go for a smoke," and I and other members followed; now, I want --

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: Order, please. I want to hear the point of order.

Mr Curling: The three members in the front there are not even in their seat and they are interrupting us.

The First Deputy Chair: You're not supposed to say that.

Mr Curling: But he keeps on interrupting me.

The First Deputy Chair: Can you continue with your point of order?

Mr Curling: The fact is, Madam Chair, that to say that I followed the honourable member for a smoke, I don't even smoke. So I feel that it is an insult, and my privilege --

Interjections.

Mr Curling: It is an insult to me that he made those comments. I'd like him to withdraw that, to begin with, because I did not follow any member to smoke because I don't even smoke.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay.

Mr Curling: Furthermore --

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: Order. Do you have another point?

Mr Curling: Yes. I don't want to take your time, Madam Chair, but the 20 members were not in the House at the time when quorum was checked; not maybe called, but when it was checked, no one was there. So I don't know what he's talking about. He saw members outside there. That's not on the floor.

The First Deputy Chair: Order, please. On the same point, the member for Dovercourt.

Mr Silipo: Well, Chair, I would just like to say first of all that standing order 11 --

The First Deputy Chair: Just a moment. I need to hear points of order. Leader of the third party, please come to order. I need to hear your colleague's point of order here. Order, please.

Mr Silipo: First of all, Chair, I would like to say that standing order 11(a) and standing order 19 have nothing whatsoever to do with each other. Standing order 19 -- I know the member from Nepean tried to connect them in trying to get you to give a broad description or a broad definition of what would constitute the House but the point is, standing order 19 deals with the issue of whether strangers, which we know is a traditional term that's used to mean anybody other than a member or the appropriate officials -- anyone else is not allowed to be on the floor of the Legislative Assembly, and the only exception that has been made was when we had a member who required interpretation assistance and then there was an exception made in that case.

But that's a very different issue from the issue of quorum, which is, of course, covered under 11(a), and there it says very clearly, "The presence of 20 members is required." It doesn't define what kind of 20 members, it just says 20 members.

So the point is very clear, Chair, that at the point at which quorum is called and you ask the clerk to ascertain whether quorum is present or not, that's the point at which the count is taken and that's very simple; there are or there aren't 20 members in the House, not in the surroundings, not in the committees, not in the lobbies, but in the House.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay. Thank you. Now I have a clearer response to these points of orders, and I thank all the members for your submissions.

Within the rules, what it means to have members in the House is that they have to be within the clerk's view and not in the gallery. If they're in the clerk's view and they're not in the gallery, but they're somewhere within the confines of this area, which includes the -- what would you call that? -- exits and entrances to the lobbies; if you are in the clerk's view in those areas, you will be counted as the 20, but if you're in the gallery --

Interjections.

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The First Deputy Chair: Is that clear to everybody. I also want to respond to, although he's not here, the member for Scarborough North. I believe that he was offended by the implication of your comment, the member for Nepean, that he was going for a smoke. He does not smoke and I believe that he finds it offensive that it was inferred. I suppose it's not unparliamentary, but the member was offended. I would ask the member for Nepean, in the interests of decorum in this place, to withdraw that.

Mr Baird: Because I have so much respect for you personally, Madam Chair, I do.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you.

I would add to that, the leader of the NDP party in my knowledge does not smoke either.

Mr Baird: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Just to clarify, I do withdraw my remarks with respect to the member for Scarborough North, but the leader of the third party did say, "Let's go for a smoke."

The First Deputy Chair: We'll drop this now and continue with our --

Interjection: The guy left seven times in an hour. One night you couldn't get him to leave all night.

The First Deputy Chair: Order, please. You know, we have gotten into the O's, don't you want to continue?

Mr Sergio: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Did I understand right that the member from Nepean started his point of order that no members of this House shall be allowed to bring strangers into this House?

The First Deputy Chair: Yes.

Mr Sergio: If that is the case, Madam Chair, I would bring to your attention clause 18 which says, "All strangers may be excluded from the House or any committee thereof on a motion properly moved and adopted by the House or the committee as the case may be." With respect to the quorum, my point of order is this.

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: Order, please.

Mr Sergio: Madam Chair, my point is this. I'm stating my point of order.

The First Deputy Chair: Go ahead; however, so far I see no connection.

Mr Sergio: I can hear, Madam Chair.

Interjections.

The First Deputy Chair: Order, please. Could you please get to that point of order.

Mr Sergio: Yes, my point of order is: What do strangers in the House -- there aren't any -- have to do with the call for a quorum?

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, thank you. I understand what you said, you're quite right, there wasn't a connection, but that is not a point of order.

Mr Sergio: But you have accepted --

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you, take your seat. There were, to my knowledge, no strangers in the House. I hope you're satisfied with that.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I would just like to know whether this is the kind of delay tactic we're going to expect after every quorum call.

The First Deputy Chair: That is not a point of order, an interesting question, but not a point of order.

Mr Hampton: On a point of order, Chair: Just for the information of the member for Nepean, I don't smoke either. But the member for Scarborough used to smoke. He informed me now that he doesn't smoke any more.

The First Deputy Chair: Thank you. Okay, NDP motion, subsection 24(4): O'Hara Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): O'Henry Grove, that's o-'-h-e-n-r-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): O'Leary Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): O'Meara Court, that's spelled o-'-m-e-a-r-a. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): O'Shea Crescent. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oak Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oak Hampton Boulevard, that's o-a-k h-a-m-p-t-o-n Boulevard, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oak Knolls Crescent, Knolls is spelled k-n-o-l-l-s and it's three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oak Park Avenue, three words. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24 --

Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Madam Chair: Yes, I'd like to withdraw the next one dealing with Oak Shores Estates.

The First Deputy Chair: Okay, Oakshores Estates, that one is withdrawn.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oak Street. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oakburn Crescent, that's o-a-k-b-u-r-n, one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oakburn Place. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oakcrest Avenue. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oakdale, one word. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oakdale Road. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oakdene Crescent, that's spelled o-a-k-d-e-n-e. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oaken Gate Way, that's o-a-k-e-n g-a-t-e w-a-y. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oaken Gateway, that's o-a-k-e-n. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oakfield Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.

NDP motion, subsection 24(4): Oakhaven Drive. Shall the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.

Mr Silipo: On a point of order: I believe a quorum is not present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: Could you check and see if a quorum is present.

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is not present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair ordered the bells rung.

Clerk at the Table: A quorum is now present, Chair.

The First Deputy Chair: A quorum is now present.

Report continues in volume Q.