39e législature, 2e session

No. 81

No 81

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée législative
de l’Ontario

Wednesday

December 8, 2010

Mercredi

8 décembre 2010

2nd Session,
39th Parliament

2e session
39e législature

PRAYERS
PRIÈRES
9:00 A.M.
9 H

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Debate was resumed on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 140, An Act to enact the Housing Services Act, 2010, repeal the Social Housing Reform Act, 2000 and make complementary and other amendments to other Acts.

Le débat reprend sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 140, Loi édictant la Loi de 2010 sur les services de logement, abrogeant la Loi de 2000 sur la réforme du logement social et apportant des modifications corrélatives et autres à d’autres lois.

After some time, the House recessed at 10:15 a.m.

Après quelque temps, à 10 h 15, l’Assemblée a suspendu la séance.

10:30 A.M.
10 H 30

ORAL QUESTIONS

QUESTIONS ORALES

During "Oral Questions", the Member for Peterborough (Mr. Leal), having disregarded the authority of the Chair, was named by the Speaker and directed to withdraw from the service of the House for the balance of the sessional day.

Pendant la période des « Questions orales », le député de Peterborough, M. Leal, ayant passé outre à l’autorité du Président, celui-ci l’a désigné par son nom et lui a ordonné de se retirer du service de l’Assemblée pour le reste de ce jour de session.

During "Oral Questions", the Member for Renfrew–Nipissing–Pembroke (Mr. Yakabuski), having disregarded the authority of the Chair, was named by the Speaker and directed to withdraw from the service of the House for the balance of the sessional day.

Pendant la période des « Questions orales », le député de Renfrew–Nipissing–Pembroke, M. Yakabuski, ayant passé outre à l’autorité du Président, celui-ci l’a désigné par son nom et lui a ordonné de se retirer du service de l’Assemblée pour le reste de ce jour de session.

DEFERRED VOTES

VOTES DIFFÉRÉS

The deferred vote on the motion for Third Reading of Bill 135, An Act respecting financial and Budget measures and other matters, was carried on the following division:-

La motion portant troisième lecture du projet de loi 135, Loi concernant les mesures financières et budgétaires et d’autres questions, mise aux voix sur le vote différé, est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 72

Aggelonitis

Arthurs

Balkissoon

Bartolucci

Bentley

Best

Bisson

Bradley

Broten

Dhillon

Dickson

DiNovo

Dombrowsky

Duguid

Flynn

Fonseca

Gélinas

Gerretsen

Levac

Mangat

Marchese

Matthews

Mauro

McGuinty

McMeekin

McNeely

Meilleur

Prue

Pupatello

Qaadri

Ramal

Ramsay

Rinaldi

Ruprecht

Sandals

Sergio

AYES / POUR - Continued

Brown

Brownell

Cansfield

Carroll

Chan

Chiarelli

Colle

Crozier

Delaney

Gravelle

Hampton

Hoskins

Hoy

Jaczek

Jeffrey

Kormos

Kular

Lalonde

Miller (Hamilton East-Stoney Creek)

Milloy

Mitchell

Moridi

Murray

Naqvi

Orazietti

Pendergast

Phillips

Smith

Sorbara

Sousa

Tabuns

Takhar

Van Bommel

Wilkinson

Wynne

Zimmer

NAYS / CONTRE - 21

Arnott

Bailey

Barrett

Clark

Elliott

Hardeman

Hillier

Hudak

Jones

Klees

Martiniuk

Miller (Parry Sound-Muskoka)

Munro

Murdoch

O'Toole

Ouellette

Savoline

Shurman

Sterling

Wilson

Witmer

And the Bill was accordingly read the third time and was passed.

En conséquence, ce projet de loi est lu une troisième fois et adopté.

The Speaker delivered the following ruling:-

Le Président a rendu la décision suivante :-

I am in receipt of notice of identical points of privilege filed by the Member for Thornhill (Mr Shurman) and the Member for Simcoe Grey (Mr Wilson). Without hearing further from the Members, I am prepared to make my ruling on the basis of the written statements as Standing Order 21(d) allows me to do.

The members relate that following Question Period on December 7th they and the Member for Whitby Oshawa were followed along the west hallway and subsequently into the west elevators by a Liberal Caucus staff person with a video camera. The Members further assert that their ability to have a private conversation was, as a result, hindered and that this constituted a breach of privilege since they were “obstructed” from performing their parliamentary duties.

Let me begin by saying in the strongest possible language that an allegation of breach of privilege is a serious matter and should not be made lightly or with any other motivation than the protection of the institution of parliament and the members who serve it.

The heads of privilege are very few and their application is very narrow. As Speakers have said on numerous occasions in the past, when it comes to obstruction, privilege very specifically applies to “parliamentary duties”. This does not include constituency matters, attendance or invitations to functions outside of this place and certainly not to the ability to have a private conversation in a public space. Obstruction of a member in his or her effort to carry out parliamentary duties refers to such things as being physically prevented from attending the House or severely intimidated from speaking on a matter before the House.

The Members have characterized the staffer’s videotaping of elected members in the hallways of this place as “reprehensible”. I myself find the practice distasteful at best. In this technological age, when video and photographic devices are so common, I can see that it is tempting to use them for political purposes. Unfortunately, that temptation is succumbed to all too frequently. Given that, I am not surprised the practice has given rise to the complaints of the Members for Thornhill and Simcoe-Grey. I would prefer if the political process rose to the level of dignity our surroundings here suggest it deserves. So I would ask all members to reflect on what I have said and give it consideration in the future.

Beyond the use of these devices, I am increasingly alarmed at activity initiated and engaged in by both sides of the House, that I consider to be unworthy of this place. It sometimes seems that more effort goes into stunts and ‘gotcha’ politics than thoughtful consideration and mature debate on the significant issues at hand.

I have said before and I will repeat. The people of this province deserve better conduct from their elected representatives.

I thank the Members for their submission. They have not made a case for a prima facie breach of privilege.

The House recessed at 11:50 a.m.

À 11 h 50, l’Assemblée a suspendu la séance.

3:00 P.M.
15 H

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI

The following Bills were introduced and read the first time:-

Les projets de loi suivants sont présentés et lus une première fois:-

Bill 148, An Act respecting the Ontario Society of Professional Engineers. Mr. Kwinter.

Projet de loi 148, Loi concernant l’Association des ingénieurs de l’Ontario. M. Kwinter.

Bill 149, An Act to proclaim Ukrainian Heritage Day. Mr. Martiniuk, Mrs. Cansfield and Ms. DiNovo.

Projet de loi 149, Loi proclamant le Jour du patrimoine ukrainien. M. Martiniuk, Mme Cansfield et Mme DiNovo.

PETITIONS

PÉTITIONS

Petition relating to making PET scans available through the Sudbury Regional Hospital (Sessional Paper No. P-14) Mme Gélinas.

Petition relating to a population needs based funding formula for hospitals (Sessional Paper No. P-39) Mr. Martiniuk.

Petition relating to the Georgetown South Rail corridor and rail expansion (Sessional Paper No. P-53) Mrs. Savoline.

Petition relating to banning the use of replacement workers during a strike (Sessional Paper No. P-72) Mr. Brownell and Mme Gélinas.

Petition relating to Bill 12, British Home Child Day Act (Sessional Paper No. P-125) Mr. Brownell.

Petition relating to solar farms (Sessional Paper No. P-133) Mr. Dunlop.

Petition relating to clinical trials of the venoplasty treatment (Sessional Paper No. P-140) Mr. Dunlop.

Petition relating to real estate development of burial grounds (Sessional Paper No. P-151) Mr. Brownell.

Petition relating to exempting electricity from the HST (Sessional Paper No. P-159) Mme Gélinas.

Petition relating to contamination of the Oak Ridges Moraine (Sessional Paper No. P-166) Mr. O'Toole.

Petition relating to Special Services At Home (SSAH) (Sessional Paper No. P-168) Mr. Arnott and Mr. Ouellette.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

A debate arose on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 141, An Act to amend the Health Protection and Promotion Act.

Il s’élève un débat sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 141, Loi modifiant la Loi sur la protection et la promotion de la santé.

Deputy Speaker informed the House that, in the name of Her Majesty the Queen, His Honour the Lieutenant Governor had been pleased to assent to the following bills in his office on December 8, 2010.

Le Vice-Président avise l'Assemblée qu'au nom de Sa Majesté la Reine, Son Honneur le lieutenant-gouverneur a eu le plaisir de sanctionner les projets de loi suivants dans son cabinet le 8 décembre 2010.

Bill 120, An Act to amend the Pension Benefits Act and the Pension Benefits Amendment Act, 2010.

Projet de loi 120, Loi modifiant la Loi sur les régimes de retraite et la Loi de 2010 modifiant la Loi sur les régimes de retraite.

Bill 122, An Act to increase the financial accountability of organizations in the broader public sector.

Projet de loi 122, Loi visant à accroître la responsabilisation financière des organismes du secteur parapublic.

Bill 135, An Act respecting financial and Budget measures and other matters.

Projet de loi 135, Loi concernant les mesures financières et budgétaires et d’autres questions.

Bill 172, An act to amend the Ticket Speculation Act.

Projet de loi 172, Loi modifiant la Loi sur le trafic des billets de spectacle.

Bill Pr37, An Act respecting The Sisters of St. Joseph of the Diocese of Peterborough, in Ontario.

Bill Pr38, An Act respecting Big Bay Resort Association.

Bill Pr41, An Act to revive Tonum Ltd.

The debate continued and, after some time, the House adjourned at 6:00 p.m.

Le débat se poursuit et après quelque temps, à 18 h, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

le président

Steve Peters

Speaker

PETITIONS TABLED PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER 39(a)

Petition relating to receiving treatment for Parkinson's disease (Sessional Paper No. P-138) (Tabled December 8, 2010) Mr. Arthurs.

Petition relating to children's mental health (Sessional Paper No. P-173) (Tabled December 8, 2010) Mr. Kormos.

QUESTIONS ANSWERED (SEE STATUS OF BUSINESS, SECTION 4A):-

Final Answers to Question Numbers: 230, 231, 232 and 235.