CONTENTS
Wednesday 6 May 1998
Election of Chair
Election of Vice-Chair
Appointment of subcommittee
STANDING COMMITTEE ON REGULATIONS AND PRIVATE BILLS
Chair / Président
Mr Toby Barrett (Norfolk PC)
Vice-Chair / Vice-Président
Mr Dave Boushy (Sarnia PC)
Mr Toby Barrett (Norfolk PC)
Mr Dave Boushy (Sarnia PC)
Mr David Caplan (Oriole L)
Mr Ernie Hardeman (Oxford PC)
Mr Gary L. Leadston (Kitchener-Wilmot PC)
Mr Tony Martin (Sault Ste Marie ND)
Mr Tony Ruprecht (Parkdale L)
Mr Derwyn Shea (High Park-Swansea PC)
Mr Frank Sheehan (Lincoln PC)
Substitutions / Membres remplaçants
Mr John O'Toole (Durham East / -Est PC)
Clerk / Greffier
Mr Viktor Kaczkowski
The committee met at 1002 in committee room 1.
ELECTION OF CHAIR
Clerk of the Committee (Mr Viktor Kaczkowski): Good morning. Honourable members, it is my duty to call upon you to elect a Chair. Are there any nominations?
Mr Derwyn Shea (High Park-Swansea): Yes. I would like to nominate Mr Toby Barrett.
Clerk of the Committee: Are there any further nominations?
Mr Tony Ruprecht (Parkdale): I'd like to nominate Marion Boyd.
Clerk of the Committee: Mrs Boyd is not a member of the committee, so I'm afraid I can't accept that nomination.
Mr Shea: Could we pause and give Mr Ruprecht time to reflect upon the membership of the committee? Who's your fallback, Tony? I move nominations close.
Mr Ruprecht: I withdraw my nomination.
Clerk of the Committee: All right, Mr Ruprecht. There being no further nominations, I declare the nominations closed and Mr Barrett elected Chair.
Mr Ruprecht: I want to make this unanimous. It's the unanimous choice of all three parties.
The Chair (Mr Toby Barrett): Thank you, committee. Perhaps as a good Chair I should remain relatively anonymous, because this committee is in your hands, and probably the most important people are the applicants. I've worked with all of you on this committee, and everyone has their say. We go clockwise, and we move things as rapidly as possible.
I should introduce the clerk to the committee. The committee has a recently appointed clerk, Viktor Kaczkowski.
Very briefly, I would like to also introduce an intern with my office, who is visiting from Lviv, Ukraine, Maryna Syrovatka. Maryna is observing at Queen's Park and will be in Ottawa later.
ELECTION OF VICE-CHAIR
The Chair: I would now ask the clerk for our next order of business.
Clerk of the Committee: That would be to nominate a Vice-Chair of the committee.
Mr Gary L. Leadston (Kitchener-Wilmot): I'd be pleased to nominate Mr David Boushy as Vice-Chair. Given the fact that he's not here, I think his remuneration should go to his sub, Mr O'Toole. However, I think David would serve on the committee without remuneration.
The Chair: As we're all aware, we are in the process of electing a Vice-Chair. We have one nomination, Mr Boushy. Are there any further nominations?
Mr Ruprecht: I second the nomination, Mr Chair.
The Chair: Thank you, Mr Ruprecht. There are no further nominations. I declare the nominations closed and that Mr Boushy be declared Vice-Chair for the standing committee on regulations and private bills. Mr O'Toole.
Mr John O'Toole (Durham East): Thank you, Mr Chair, and congratulations, I might add, to you and to Mr Boushy. But on the Mr Boushy point, as I'm the official sub on the day of this decision being made, I want to go away here confident that the records are clear that the allocation of the stipend is properly affixed to the proper name. As I'm the sub, I hope there are no accounting errors.
Mr Shea: So Mr Leadston was the shill.
The Chair: You and Mr Boushy may wish to informally strike a subcommittee and wrestle that out yourselves.
Mr Ernie Hardeman (Oxford): I would be almost sure, being the type of gentleman you are, Mr O'Toole, that you would be willing to do this free, gratis, on behalf of Mr Boushy.
Mr O'Toole: This is exactly the fundamental point I'm trying to make.
Mr Ruprecht: Mr O'Toole brings up a very important item of the morning. I want to know what the recommendation actually was. What was the recommendation?
Mr Leadston: I'm moving Mr Boushy as Vice-Chairman.
Mr Ruprecht: No, there was another recommendation afterwards.
Mr Leadston: No, no, we were just talking among ourselves over here.
APPOINTMENT OF SUBCOMMITTEE
The Chair: Our next order of business will be the appointment of a subcommittee for this standing committee. I would entertain any motions for membership or the establishment of a subcommittee.
Mr Tony Martin (Sault Ste Marie): I move that a subcommittee on committee business be appointed to meet from time to time at the call of the Chair, or at the request of any member thereof, to consider and report to the committee on the business of the committee; that the presence of all members of the subcommittee is necessary to constitute a meeting; and that the subcommittee be composed of the following members: Mr Barrett as the Chair, Mr Hardeman, Mr Caplan and Mr Martin; and that any member may designate a substitute member on the subcommittee who is of the same recognized party.
The Chair: Any discussion?
Mr Shea: No, I second it.
The Chair: Great. I think we vote on this. All those in favour of this motion? Opposed? Seeing none, it's carried.
Normally at this time the next order of business is work. Obviously there are no applicants today. I understand there are a couple; one, I know, is not ready.
Mr Shea: In the fullness of time, you'll bring it before the committee, right?
The Chair: Yes.
Mr Shea: Thank you, Chairman.
The Chair: I may suggest to the newly appointed subcommittee that perhaps the subcommittee could meet next Wednesday morning at the time normally allotted for this committee until we have some work.
Mr Shea: Good idea.
The Chair: I declare this meeting adjourned until the call of the Chair.
The committee adjourned at 1009.