Chair /
Présidente
Ms Marilyn Mushinski (Scarborough Centre / -Centre
PC)
Vice-Chair / Vice-Président
Mr Carl DeFaria (Mississauga East / -Est PC)
Mr Marcel Beaubien (Lambton-Kent-Middlesex PC)
Mr Michael Bryant (St Paul's L)
Mr Carl DeFaria (Mississauga East / -Est PC)
Mrs Brenda Elliott (Guelph-Wellington PC)
Mr Garry J. Guzzo (Ottawa West-Nepean / Ottawa-Ouest-Nepean
PC)
Mr Peter Kormos (Niagara Centre / -Centre ND)
Mrs Lyn McLeod (Thunder Bay-Atikokan L)
Ms Marilyn Mushinski (Scarborough Centre / -Centre
PC)
Substitutions / Membres remplaçants
Mr R. Gary Stewart (Peterborough PC)
Clerk / Greffière
Ms Susan Sourial
Staff / Personnel
Ms Elaine Campbell, research officer, Research and Information
Services
The committee met at 1530 in room 151.
ELECTION OF CHAIR
The Vice-Chair (Mr Carl
DeFaria): I'd like to call the meeting to order.
Mr Peter Kormos
(Niagara Centre): On a point of order, Chair: I
understand there's a TV show, Who Wants to be a Millionaire. This
is the "Who Wants to Make $10,000 a Year More" committee.
The
Vice-Chair: That's not a point of order.
Mr Kormos:
I'm sorry.
The
Vice-Chair: If we may proceed, owing to a vacancy in the
position of Chair of this committee, I will be presiding over the
election of the new Chair. I'd like to start by asking-
Mr Kormos: I
will nominate-yes, Chair?
The
Vice-Chair: Can you just give me-
Mr Kormos:
Well, you're asking for nominations. I'm ready to offer one
up.
The
Vice-Chair: I'd like to ask for nominations for the
position. Mr Kormos, proceed.
Mr Kormos:
These are, of course, as we know, democratic processes. It was
reformed to the rules that permitted committees to elect their
Chairs. I nominate Michael Bryant.
The
Vice-Chair: Will Mr Bryant accept nomination?
Mr Michael Bryant (St
Paul's): I am flattered, but I'm afraid I want to have
some standing on this committee and in fact I regretfully
decline. I have a nomination as well.
The
Vice-Chair: Mr Bryant has a nomination.
Mr Bryant: I
nominate Peter Kormos to be the Chair of this justice
committee.
The
Vice-Chair: Will you accept nomination, Mr Kormos?
Mr Kormos:
Unlike one Tory backbencher, I will not hide behind some excuse
about lack of funds. I will rather acknowledge that the
likelihood of being elected by a majority of Conservatives is
unlikely. I decline.
The
Vice-Chair: Any further nominations? Mr Beaubien?
Mr Marcel Beaubien
(Lambton-Kent-Middlesex): Mr Chair, it's my pleasure to
nominate Marilyn Mushinski as Chair of the standing committee on
justice and social policy.
The
Vice-Chair: Mr Beaubien nominates Ms Mushinski. Will you
accept nomination, Ms Mushinski?
Ms Marilyn Mushinski
(Scarborough Centre): I accept, Mr Chair.
The
Vice-Chair: Are there any further nominations? No other
nominations, I declare Ms Mushinski elected as Chair of the
committee.
The Chair (Ms Marilyn
Mushinski): First of all, let me start off by thanking
the committee. Having chaired the committee on general government
for the last six months, which I enjoyed thoroughly, by the way,
I look forward to working with each and every one of you. I
appreciate your support. Other business?
APPOINTMENT OF SUBCOMMITTEE
Mr Bryant:
Madam Chair, I move that a subcommittee on committee business be
appointed to meet from time to time at the call of the Chair, or
at the request of any member thereof, to consider and report to
the committee on the business of the committee; that the presence
of all members of the subcommittee is necessary to constitute a
meeting; and that the subcommittee is composed of the following
members: the Chair of the justice committee, in addition to Mrs
Elliott, Mrs McLeod, and Mr Kormos; and that any member may
designate a substitute member on the subcommittee who is of the
same recognized party.
The Chair:
All in favour? That carries. Any other business?
Mrs Lyn McLeod
(Thunder Bay-Atikokan): May we seek to inquire as to
whether we may expect any business before either the committee or
the subcommittee in the next little while, Madam Chair?
The Chair:
You may certainly do that, Mrs McLeod.
Clerk of the
Committee (Ms Susan Sourial): There are no new bills in
front of the committee at the moment, though there are a couple
of bills that have been referred from the past, Bill 9 and Bill
10.
The Chair:
If you would allow me to perhaps meet with the clerk, we'll pull
together an agenda and certainly we will be letting members of
the subcommittee know as soon as possible when we'll be
meeting.
Mrs McLeod:
May I just then further ask, since there is no new legislation
before the committee which would obviously take priority over any
other committee business, is
the committee open to receiving resolutions for discussion at
committee?
The Chair:
Certainly.
Mrs McLeod:
May we propose resolutions? How do you wish to have those brought
forward? Would you like those brought forward to a subcommittee
to schedule business for the resolutions?
The Chair:
If you will allow me, in terms of procedure, Mrs McLeod, you are
aware of section 124, which states:
"(a) Once in each session,
for consideration in that session, each permanent member of a
committee set out in standing order 106(a) or (b) may propose
that the committee study and report on a matter or matters
relating to the mandate, management, organization or operation of
the ministries and offices which are assigned to the committee,
as well as the agencies, boards and commissions reporting to such
ministries and offices.
"(b) Notice of a motion by a
member under this standing order shall be filed with the clerk of
the committee not less than 24 hours before the member intends to
move it in a meeting of the committee."
Do you want me to continue
reading?
Mrs McLeod:
That's fine. Then I'm going to assume that we can file such
notices 24 hours prior to the call of the next meeting or at any
time before the call of the next meeting.
The Chair:
Yes. "The clerk of the committee shall distribute a copy of the
motion to the members as soon as it is received. Whenever a
motion under this standing order is being considered in a
committee, discussion of the motion shall not exceed 30 minutes,
at the expiry of which the Chair shall put every question
necessary to dispose of the motion and any amendments
thereto."
It goes on to talk about
adoption, limitation of consideration, and report to the
House.
Mrs McLeod:
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I'll act accordingly.
The Chair:
Any other business? May I have a motion to adjourn?
Mr Beaubien:
So moved.
The Chair:
Marcel moves adjournment. The meeting is adjourned.