CONTENTS

Monday 3 May 1999

Election of Chair

Election of Vice-Chair1

Appointment of subcommittee

STANDING COMMITTEE ON SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT

Chair / Présidente
Ms Annamarie Castrilli (Downsview L)

Vice-Chair / Vice-Président
Mr Dwight Duncan (Windsor-Walkerville L)

Mrs Marion Boyd (London Centre / -Centre ND)
Mr Jack Carroll (Chatham-Kent PC)
Ms Annamarie Castrilli (Downsview L)
Mr Dwight Duncan (Windsor-Walkerville L)
Mr Tim Hudak (Niagara South / -Sud PC)
Mr Frank Klees (York-Mackenzie PC)
Mrs Lyn McLeod (Fort William L)
Mrs Lillian Ross (Hamilton West / -Ouest PC)
Mr Bruce Smith (Middlesex PC)

Substitutions / Membres remplaçants
Mr Rick Bartolucci (Sudbury L)
Mr Bill Grimmett (Muskoka-Georgian Bay / Muskoka-Baie-Georgienne PC)
Mr Toni Skarica (Wentworth North / -Nord PC)

Clerk / Greffière
Ms Donna Bryce

Staff / Personnel
Ms Elaine Campbell, research officer, Legislative Research Service

The committee met at 1531 in room 151.

ELECTION OF CHAIR

Clerk of the Committee (Ms Donna Bryce): Honourable members, I call upon you to elect a Chair. Are there any nominations?

Mr Frank Klees (York-Mackenzie): Madam Chair, I really do believe that Monte Kwinter would do an excellent job as Chair of this committee.

Clerk of the Committee: Unfortunately, he is not a member of the committee, so he can't be nominated.

Mr Klees: Is there any way we can conscript him? Can we ask for unanimous consent to call him in?

Mr Toni Skarica (Wentworth North): I say Bill Grimmett.

Mr Bill Grimmett (Muskoka-Georgian Bay): I decline the nomination. I've been declining nominations all week.

Mr Klees: Let's see how many we can get to decline.

In that case, I would nominate Lillian Ross.

Mrs Lillian Ross (Hamilton West): I decline. Thank you very much, though.

Mr Klees: I nominate Toni Skarica.

Mr Skarica: I'm not even on the committee, so I'm not eligible.

Mr Klees: I would nominate Bruce Smith.

Mr Bruce Smith (Middlesex): And I would decline.

Mr Klees: Perhaps Marion Boyd would help us with this.

Mrs Marion Boyd (London Centre): What do you need help with, Frank?

Mr Klees: We're debating who should be the Chair for this committee. We've nominated four people. They've all declined.

Clerk of the Committee: I have just asked if there are any nominations for the position of Chair.

Mrs Boyd: Do you want me to participate in this charade?

Mr Klees: Seeing as the meeting was scheduled to start five minutes ago, we thought we would just, rather than get on with business, wait until some of the members arrived. All of the government members were here.

Mrs Boyd: I think the member is well aware that you don't start until all members arrive, particularly when you don't have a Chair.

Mr Klees: I'm not aware of that, no.

Mrs Boyd: The purpose of this meeting is to elect a Chair.

Clerk of the Committee: I will ask again. Are there any nominations for the position of Chair?

Mr Klees: I would nominate Annamarie Castrilli, if that's appropriate.

Clerk of the Committee: Are there any further nominations? There being none, I declare the nominations closed and that Ms Castrilli be elected Chair.

ELECTION OF VICE-CHAIR

Clerk of the Committee: I'll move on now to the election of Vice-Chair, since Ms Castrilli is not here. Are there any nominations for that position?

Mrs Ross: I'll nominate Dwight Duncan.

Clerk of the Committee: Are there any further nominations for the position of Vice-Chair?

Mrs Boyd: A question: Does the person not have to be a member of the committee?

Clerk of the Committee: Mr Duncan is a member of the committee.

Mrs Boyd: Oh, I see.

Clerk of the Committee: They can be elected in absentia.

There being no further nominations, I declare the nominations closed and that Mr Duncan be elected Vice-Chair.

Because Ms Castrilli and Mr Duncan are not here right now, I'll call upon the committee to elect an Acting Chair to finish off the meeting. Are there any nominations for the position of Acting Chair?

Mr Grimmett: I nominate Mr Bartolucci.

Mr Bartolucci: I'll be nominating Ms Castrilli and Mr -

Clerk of the Committee: Too late.

Mr Bartolucci: Sorry.

Clerk of the Committee: Are there any further nominations for Acting Chair? Seeing none, Mr Bartolucci, can you please come up and finish off the meeting?

APPOINTMENT OF SUBCOMMITTEE

The Acting Chair (Mr Rick Bartolucci): Is there a mover for the following motion?

Mr Grimmett: I moved the appointment of you as Chair.

The Acting Chair: OK. Do we have another mover to move the following motion: "I move that a subcommittee on committee business be appointed to meet from time to time at the call of the Chair, or at the request of any member thereof, to consider and report to the committee on the business of the committee; that the presence of all members of the subcommittee is necessary to constitute a meeting and that the subcommittee be composed of the following members: Ms Castrilli (Chair), Mr Carroll, Ms Boyd and Mr Duncan"?

Mr Grimmett: I so move.

The Acting Chair: Any discussion on the motion?

All those in favour? Those opposed? Carried.

The meeting is now adjourned to the call of the Chair. Thanks very much.

The committee adjourned at 1537.