CONTENTS
Wednesday 3 November 1993
Subcommittee report
STANDING COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT
Chair / Président: Huget, Bob (Sarnia ND)
*Acting Chair / Président suppléant: Klopp, Paul (Huron ND)
*Vice-Chair / Vice-Président: Cooper, Mike (Kitchener-Wilmot ND)
Conway, Sean G. (Renfrew North/-Nord L)
Fawcett, Joan M. (Northumberland L)
Jordan, Leo (Lanark-Renfrew PC)
*Murdock, Sharon (Sudbury ND)
Offer, Steven (Mississauga North/-Nord L)
Turnbull, David (York Mills PC)
*Waters, Daniel (Muskoka-Georgian Bay/Muskoka-Baie-Georgienne ND)
Wilson, Gary (Kingston and The Islands/Kingston et Les Îles ND)
Wood, Len (Cochrane North/-Nord ND)
*In attendance / présents
Substitutions present / Membres remplaçants présents:
Mahoney, Steven W. (Mississauga West/-Ouest L) for Mr Offer
Wiseman, Jim (Durham West/-Ouest ND) for Mr Huget
Clerk / Greffière: Manikel, Tannis
Staff / Personnel: Anderson, Anne, research officer, Legislative Research Service
The committee met at 1628 in committee room 1.
SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT
The Acting Chair (Mr Paul Klopp): Are we ready to go? I'm subbing for Bob Huget.
Mr Jim Wiseman (Durham West): You're the guest host.
The Acting Chair: I'm the guest host.
We had a subcommittee report. I'll read the subcommittee report and then we'll vote on its support, I hope.
"The subcommittee met on November 1 and 3 to discuss the agenda for Bill 80.
"The subcommittee recommends:
"That the hearings start on Monday, November 15, 1993;
That on the 15th, the minister, the ministry and the Liberal critic have 30 minutes each for statements and questions;
"That Joe Maloney of the building and construction trades union be scheduled on the 15th for one hour;
"That the PC critic have 30 minutes on the 17th for a statement and questions;
"That the presenters have 30 minutes for presentations;
"That the clerk will request that groups make joint presentations, if possible;
"That the deadline for requests to make presentations be on Monday, November 15, 1993."
That's the final date we'll accept presentations.
Mr Wiseman: Just on a point of clarification, in the first part you said that the minister and the ministry will have half an hour. Is that each or is that total?
The Acting Chair: Each.
Mr Wiseman: Okay. So collectively it's an hour.
The Acting Chair: Yes, if they choose to use it all.
Mr Steven W. Mahoney (Mississauga West): Presumably that would include questions to either during that time. So if the minister makes a 10-minute statement, we could ask questions about his statement for up to half an hour and have him respond?
The Acting Chair: Yes.
Ms Sharon Murdock (Sudbury): Why would you?
Mr Mahoney: I don't know that we would, but I'm just saying you'd have a maximum of 30 minutes where the minister would either address the committee or we could ask questions or you could ask questions for clarification, and then the ministry would be the same thing.
Mr Wiseman: And in the spirit of collegiality, the time would be split equally among the three parties?
Mr Mahoney: I don't have a problem with that; the Tories won't be here that day.
The Acting Chair: There will be presentations.
Mr Mahoney: I guess there'll be somebody here, yes.
Ms Murdock: There would be no objection, I guess; I don't know. Maybe if the minister and the ministry made it and then used the balance to address the questions to either one? Do you know what I mean?
The Acting Chair: I think that's understood. They have up to an hour. The minister can do whatever he wants in that hour. That's my understanding. There'll be talking back and forth, questions, right? I think that's the understanding.
Ms Murdock: My understanding was that the minister would use whatever portion of the half-hour and then the questions would be directed to the minister. Then the ministry would use whatever portion of the half-hour and the questions would be directed to the ministry. My thought was that you would have both of them make their presentations and then use the balance of time to direct your questions to both.
The Acting Chair: I think that's the interpretation. It read that way, but that's the interpretation we all can agree on, what you just stated.
Then clearly the Liberal critic has 30 minutes in which he can make statements and questions above and beyond the potential hour there.
Okay, are there any other clarifications? Could I have somebody move adoption?
Mr Wiseman: I'll move it.
The Acting Chair: All those in favour? Unanimously supported.
Any other business? Then this meeting stands adjourned. Thank you all very much for your time.
The committee adjourned at 1632.