Assemblée législative de l'Ontario

WORKERS' COMPENSATION REFORM ACT, 1996 / LOI DE 1996 PORTANT RÉFORME DE LA LOI SUR LES ACCIDENTS DU TRAVAIL

CONTENTS

Monday 15 September 1997

Workers' Compensation Reform Act, 1996, Bill 99, Mrs Witmer / Loi de 1996 portant réforme de la Loi sur les accidents du travail, projet de loi 99, M^me Witmer

STANDING COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT

CHAIR / PRÉSIDENTE

MRS BRENDA ELLIOTT (GUELPH PC)

VICE-CHAIR / VICE-PRÉSIDENT

MR JERRY J. OUELLETTE (OSHAWA PC)

MR DOMINIC AGOSTINO (HAMILTON EAST / -EST L)

MR DAVID CHRISTOPHERSON (HAMILTON CENTRE / -CENTRE ND)

MR TED CHUDLEIGH (HALTON NORTH / -NORD PC)

MS MARILYN CHURLEY (RIVERDALE ND)

MR SEAN G. CONWAY (RENFREW NORTH / -NORD L)

MRS BRENDA ELLIOTT (GUELPH PC)

MR DOUG GALT (NORTHUMBERLAND PC)

MR JOHN HASTINGS (ETOBICOKE-REXDALE PC)

MR PAT HOY (ESSEX-KENT L)

MR W. LEO JORDAN (LANARK-RENFREW PC)

MR BART MAVES (NIAGARA FALLS PC)

MR JOHN R. O'TOOLE (DURHAM EAST / -EST PC)

MR JERRY J. OUELLETTE (OSHAWA PC)

MR JOSEPH SPINA (BRAMPTON NORTH / -NORD PC)

SUBSTITUTIONS / MEMBRES REMPLAÇANTS

MR CARL DEFARIA (MISSISSAUGA EAST / -EST PC)

MR DWIGHT DUNCAN (WINDSOR-WALKERVILLE L)

MS SHELLEY MARTEL (SUDBURY EAST / -EST ND)

MR R. GARY STEWART (PETERBOROUGH PC)

ALSO TAKING PART /AUTRES PARTICIPANTS ET PARTICIPANTES

MR GILLES BISSON (COCHRANE SOUTH / -SUD ND)

MR BART MAVES, PARLIAMENTARY ASSISTANT TO MINISTER OF LABOUR

MS MARGUERITE RAPPOLT, DIRECTOR, PREVENTION AND COMPENSATION POLICY BRANCH, LAB

CLERK PRO TEM/ GREFFIER PAR INTÉRIM

MR TODD DECKER

STAFF / PERSONNEL

MR RUSSELL YURKOW, LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

WORKERS' COMPENSATION REFORM ACT, 1996 / LOI DE 1996 PORTANT RÉFORME DE LA LOI SUR LES ACCIDENTS DU TRAVAIL

Consideration of Bill 99, An Act to secure the financial stability of the compensation system for injured workers, to promote the prevention of injury and disease in Ontario workplaces and to revise the Workers' Compensation Act and make related amendments to other Acts / Projet de loi 99, Loi assurant la stabilité financière du régime d'indemnisation des travailleurs blessés, favorisant la prévention des lésions et des maladies dans les lieux de travail en Ontario et révisant la Loi sur les accidents du travail et apportant des modifications connexes à d'autres lois.

The Chair (Mrs Brenda Elliott): Good afternoon, colleagues. The standing committee on resources development is called to order to resume clause-by-clause debate on Bill 99.

Interruption.

The Chair:We are recessed for 10 minutes, colleagues.

The committee recessed from 1537 to 1556

The Chair: Good afternoon. The standing committee on resources development is called to order to resume clause-by-clause debate on Bill 99.

Mr David Christopherson (Hamilton Centre): On a point of order, Madam Chair: I want to raise two important points. The last day we met, I believe the member for Scarborough Centre, Mr Gilchrist, was here to question the numbers we were using about the $1 million this government is wasting on changing the name of the board. He went on at great length about the fact that the opposition can't be trusted, particularly the third party, to come up with numbers. It's in the cabinet document that was leaked, and if he'd done his homework he'd have known that.

The Chair: Mr Christopherson, sorry, that's not a point of order.

Mr Christopherson: The other point of order --

The Chair: Is this a real point of order?

Mr Christopherson: Yes, it is, actually.

The Chair: Good.

Interjection.

Mr Christopherson: No, this one is an actual point of order. I am seeking unanimous consent to move to the amendment that relates to section 106.1. The reason is that this is a significant amendment that has the effect of possibly causing thousands and thousands of injured workers to lose their right of appeal. That was not part of Bill 99 and it was not part of any kind of public discussion or public input. At the very least, I am asking that we move that amendment up and that it be dealt with first in light of the fact that there's been no public comment at all and that it is not part of Bill 99 in its original form.

The Chair: Could you tell me what page that amendment would be on, please?

Mr Christopherson: It's page 211 of the amendments. It's a new section 106.1. I'm seeking to have it moved up because of its significant impact on thousands of injured workers and the fact that it's never had one minute of public debate because it wasn't tabled until after the public hearings.

The Chair: Mr Christopherson is seeking unanimous consent to move from the amendment that we were discussing on page 17 to the amendment on page 211, which is a government motion.

Mr Christopherson: I might point out to help members appreciate, this retroactively applies the time limits to appeals. Retroactively doing that begs a number of questions that I'd like to ask of the parliamentary assistant. I would think the government members would want to know this too. It's their constituents who are affected. We've never seen this before in the public hearings -- there has been no comment on it -- yet if this is passed as it is, potentially thousands of injured workers will lose the right they have today to file an appeal.

As you know, the question around limiting time for appeals in other applications in the bill has been the focus of major attention. Had they known this, that it would be retroactively applied, I can assure you that much, much more would have been said in public about this matter.

The Chair: Is there unanimous consent to move to page 211 from page 17? No, there is not unanimous consent.

Mr Christopherson: Who's opposed? Bart Maves is opposed. Why are you opposed?

The Chair: Sorry, this is not the time for --

Mr Christopherson: Oh, come on. This is affecting thousands of workers. It's retroactive legislation, which is dramatic in its own right, and the fact that it wasn't part of the public hearings demands that it at least be heard today.

The Chair: I understand that.

Mr Christopherson: I'm not yelling at you, I'm yelling at him.

The Chair: That's very kind of you.

Mr Christopherson: Come on, Bart.

The Chair: The fact of the matter is, under the standing orders, Mr Christopherson, we have to debate the amendment before the committee at this point in time.

Mr Christopherson: Unanimous consent would allow us to move on, correct, Chair?

The Chair: Yes, but there was not unanimous consent.

Mr Christopherson: I want to hear from the parliamentary assistant why not. Are you afraid? Are you afraid to discuss this?

The Chair: We can't go on.

Mr Christopherson: The opposition's in favour. You've got the majority. You're going to get your way anyway. Let's go.

Mr Bart Maves (Niagara Falls): Chair, I don't want to move to debate the section, but for the benefit of those in the room, I will ask the policy staff from the Ministry of Labour to clarify it. But we are not going to give unanimous consent to move to have full debate on it.

The Chair: All right.

Mr Christopherson: So you're going to have your say but we're not going to get ours.

The Chair: Hold it. Actually, let's not go down that route. We are on page 17, discussing the NDP motion.

Mr Gilles Bisson (Cochrane South): Madam Chair, on a point of order: I need some clarification. The member for Hamilton Centre, Mr Christopherson, asked that the parliamentary assistant and the rest of the government committee allow, by unanimous consent, a movement to that particular clause. Rightfully so, you put the question forward. There was a dissenting no. We didn't hear who it was. The parliamentary assistant then decided to ask for special consideration from the committee to explain the government's position. You were prepared to give it to him, but you're not prepared to give the rest of the committee, namely, our labour critic, Mr Christopherson, the opportunity to ask the question. I think it's highly irregular. Either we have it or we don't. You can't give rules that apply to one side, the government side, that favour them, and after that allow the opposition no opportunity to respond.

The Chair: Mr Bisson, if the committee wishes by unanimous consent to allow that, then so be it. However, I am not going to allow debate on a motion that is not on the floor by way of unanimous consent. That would be inappropriate, in my view, and that is my ruling.

Mr Bisson: I agree with you, Chair, but it is not appropriate, in my view, for you as the Chair to allow the parliamentary assistant the opportunity to have the ministry clarify what the position is on that particular policy and then in the same breath turn around and deny that opportunity to the critic for the NDP party. I think that's irregular.

The Chair: I have considered what the ramifications of that decision would be, and the decision I am making as the Chair of the committee is that we will have debate on the amendment that is before the committee on the floor. That is not on the floor.

Mr Dominic Agostino (Hamilton East): Madam Chair, on a point of order on the same lines: I would seek unanimous consent that once the staff researcher has made the presentation, the opposition parties would be then given the opportunity to respond to that presentation and the comments. I seek unanimous consent for the committee to do that.

The Chair: Mr Agostino seeks unanimous consent on that point. Is there unanimous consent?

Mr Christopherson: That's what I asked for in the first place.

Mr Maves: No, you didn't.

The Chair: Order, please. I am hearing unanimous consent for that request.

Mr Maves: An explanation followed by a follow-up, right?

The Chair: An explanation from legal staff, yes.

Ms Mary Rappolt: Section 106.1 clarifies how the new procedures of the appeals tribunal and the board will apply with regard to existing decisions. I think the particular question was about the appeal period for board decisions. Section 106.1 points out that the six-month appeal period will apply to those decisions made on or after January 1, but also to board decisions made prior to January 1, 1998.

I think it's important to point out two features. One is that the Workers' Compensation Board, prior to proclamation of the bill, will be proceeding with significant notice to all clients of the board -- employers, workers and so on -- regarding the whole range of rights and obligations that have changed. The board has noted, and I've been asked to table, that they will be taking special measures to make injured workers and employers aware of the fact that decisions made prior to January 1 will be subject to the appeal period of January 1, 1998, through to the end of June 1998. That's the first point.

The second point I'd like to raise is that section 114 of Bill 99, of schedule A, which sets out the six-month period, also gives the board the discretion to waive that period when it is just to do so, when the circumstances warrant a waiver on the basis of perhaps, in good faith, the claimant not having access to the information they needed to launch the appeal. The board does have the discretion to waive the six-month appeal when it determines that it's just to do so.

Mr Christopherson: A couple of questions before I respond to this very, very draconian measure. First of all, Parliamentary Assistant, why are you finding it necessary to extinguish rights that injured workers have today with this amendment? Why are you taking away their rights and using your new time frame retroactively and extinguishing those rights?

The Chair: Mr Christopherson, my understanding of the request for unanimous consent was that legal counsel would respond and that each party could comment. We're not moving further into debate. Did you wish to comment?

Mr Christopherson: I would think that --

The Chair: No, I'm sorry. My interpretation --

Mr Christopherson: But the parliamentary assistant had the staff say that so we could understand what's going on. I just want to clarify by asking the parliamentary assistant a couple of questions.

Mr Maves: We're not getting into any debate.

The Chair: That would then form debate. I have indicated that's not the ruling of this Chair, that we are debating only the motion on page 17. If you wish to make a brief comment, that's fine. Then the Liberals may make a brief comment and then we're moving back to page 17.

Mr Christopherson: Fine, I'll make my brief comment. I share the frustration that the public feels here. I'm an elected member of this Legislature and I can't even debate the bloody amendment that's affecting these people. Where the hell's democracy? The fact is that you're allowing this crumb -- this is like the six days of public hearings. It's a little crumb. I asked to move to this amendment and debate it because it's going to affect thousands of injured workers, and all you give me is a quick little statement from a bureaucrat. Then I get to say a couple of words and then we move on to the rest of your amendments, which, by the way, you are absolutely, lawfully guaranteed to carry by the end of the day. You've already got all that power and you still won't debate this.

On this itself, let me say to you that I couldn't imagine anything more disgraceful than what you've done already, yet here you are today passing an amendment that nobody had any comment on, that reaches out beyond the law as it now exists and takes away rights that injured workers have today by making this retroactive. Just how bloody low can this government get? How low in the gutter can you go in going after injured workers?

Mr Bisson: I can't ask a question but I want to maybe state the obvious to make sure we understand what this policy means. What this basically means is that a worker who is injured prior to January 1, 1998 -- and I'm looking at the ministry staff, the legal staff; if they can at least give me a nod, that would be a good way to get an answer -- would lose the right to appeal come June 1, 1998, by way of this clause.

Ms Rappolt: I'd like to clarify that. That's not the information I confirmed. What I said was that the six-month appeal period would apply to decisions made prior to January 1, 1998. They do not lose the right to appeal. There is a six-month period, first of all, and second, there is authority with the board in circumstances where they feel the person, in good faith, has not been --

Interruption.

The Chair: Order, please.

Ms Rappolt: Where the claimant has not been able to exercise their right of appeal, that period can be extended where it is just to do so.

Mr Bisson: I understand that you're giving some discretion, but what this says is that as an injured worker advocate who goes before the board on a regular basis, if I have a worker who is now trying to get justice from the board because they were injured prior to January 1, 1998, and they wait for whatever reason until after June, I will be at the behest of the board to be able to go before them and before a hearings officer to even get the case to the board.

It means that workers who are now injured or have been previously injured are losing the right to appeal on the basis of this amendment, and that is not right. It's totally bureaucratic. I'm going to have to go to the board to try to get to a hearing, because this government took the right away. Crazy.

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Mr Dwight Duncan: We don't agree at all with what the government is suggesting. What we think you're doing again, it's very clear to us, is further limiting an injured worker's ability to appeal a decision. I would submit to the government members of this committee that there has been process that has been established over years and codified in law for a good reason: to ensure or to try to ensure as best we can in a bad world that there is fairness and access to appeal.

You're denying that and you're not serving anyone's cause, because not only is it going to penalize injured workers unfairly, it circumvents and undermines fundamental justice. My guess is this won't stand any kind of appeal to the courts. Like so much of the other legislation you've brought forward, it's nothing but an attempt to hurt the most vulnerable in our society. This will be stomped out as quickly as your government will be stomped out in 1999.

The Chair: Returning to page 17, the NDP motion, is there further debate?

Mr Christopherson: Since I was cut off in the beginning, I just want to again for the record say that the -- I don't know if he's here today; it's too bad. He came in here like an expert in everything. I'm speaking of the member for Scarborough East, Mr Gilchrist, who came in here ranting and raving like he knew what he was talking about, accusing us of not having done our homework, not having the right figures, saying that everything we did was suspect in terms of facts we put on the table etc.

For the record, I want to say very clearly that in the cabinet submission which was leaked by me in the House, dated September 18, 1996, on page 16, it says, "It is noted that the board projects that the costs associated with the change of name will be approximately $1 million." I would strongly suggest that Mr Gilchrist and other members of the government do their own homework before they accuse the opposition of not having done theirs.

Mr Pat Hoy (Essex-Kent): We will support this motion as I think there have been similar ones in the past under other sections. We recognize full well that the government has stated it would cost a million dollars to change the name. We asked for the word "fair" to remain in the act, which would cost nothing, and the government voted the word "fair" down at our last meeting of clause-by-clause. There are those who believe the name change will lead to privatization of what was formerly known as the Workers' Compensation Board.

The Chair: Further debate on the motion before us? Seeing none, are you ready for the question? A recorded vote. Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Agostino, Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The motion is lost.

Moving next to page 18, this is a government motion.

Mr Maves: I move that the definition of "dependants" in subsection 2(1) of the Workplace Safety and Insurance Act, 1997 as set out in schedule A of the Workers' Compensation Reform Act, 1997 be amended by striking out "in relation to a deceased worker" in the first and second lines.

The amendment just corrects a drafting error, as there are situations where the act applies to the dependants of a live worker. So it's broadening the scope of coverage.

The Chair: Further debate? Seeing none, I'll put the question. A recorded vote. Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Agostino, Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The motion is carried.

Moving now to page 19, it's a Liberal amendment.

Mr Dwight Duncan (Windsor-Walkerville): I move that the definition of "health care practitioner" in subsection 2(1) of the Workplace Safety and Insurance Act, 1997 as set out in schedule A of the Workers' Compensation Reform Act, 1997 be amended by inserting "a rehabilitation counsellor" after "professional" in the first and second lines.

It was suggested by the Canadian Association of Rehabilitation Professionals that we incorporate this into this particular section. They feel their rehabilitation counsellors should be included in the definition of health care practitioners and we support them on this.

Mr Maves: We're not clear on who exactly would be considered a rehabilitation counsellor and what the person's role is in the health care system, and when does a health professional refer an injured worker to a rehab counsellor and for what purpose? I wonder if the Liberal caucus could clarify some of these questions.

Mr Duncan: Certainly. Rehabilitation counsellors must possess a special knowledge of medical, psychological and economic aspects of disabling conditions, occupational counselling and job placement skills, client assessments and counselling techniques, and co-ordination of vocational rehab services.

Ontario rehabilitation counsellors currently have two bodies through which they may pursue accreditation, are in fact accredited counsellors. These are CARP and the CRCC respectively, both of which are self-regulating.

Mr Maves: Just with that explanation, I think rehabilitation counsellors would have a role in the return-to-work process perhaps, but I don't know if they'd have one in the health care system. It's a health care practitioner. I think what they do is better perhaps utilized in just a return-to-work scenario, a labour market re-entry scenario. That's where they're better left. We will vote down this amendment because of that fact.

The Chair: Further debate? Seeing none, I'll put the question then. A recorded vote, please.

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

Shall section 2 of schedule A, as amended, carry? A recorded vote. Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, Ouellette, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 2 carries.

Moving on in schedule A, shall section 3 of schedule A carry? Any debate? Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 3 of schedule A shall carry.

On schedule A, section 4, the next amendment before us is on page 20. This is a Liberal amendment.

Mr Duncan: I move that paragraph 9 of subsection 4(1) of the Workplace Safety and Insurance Act, 1997 as set out in schedule A of the Workers' Compensation Reform Act, 1997 be struck out and the following substituted:

"9. To reinstate an independent Occupational Disease Panel and respond to its findings and research."

Mr Maves: On a point of order, Madam Chair: It is my understanding, and that of the government, that the amendment is actually out of order because it requires that an independent agency appointed by statute be allowed to appoint another independent agency. That could only be done by passage of a bill by the Legislature. I don't think that this is in order because it can't really occur as it's set out. I might ask legislative counsel to --

The Chair: One moment, please. It's the view of legislative counsel that this would not be out of order. Whether or not it would work is another matter, but in fact it would be in order. I tend to agree.

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Mr Maves: Can I have our legal counsel respond to that?

The Chair: Could we just wait for one moment, please, and allow Mr Duncan to comment on the introduction of the amendment and then we'll have further debate.

Mr Duncan: Legislative counsel has said that this is in order. It's our view that it's in order. There are many statutes that contemplate independent agencies being appointed by schedule A agencies or other types of provincial agencies. I would have thought that the Chair was bound by advice of legislative counsel as opposed to government counsel and would recognize this as a legitimate amendment. We know you're going to vote it down. We know you're going to make a serious mistake in judgement around the Occupational Disease Panel.

I will remind members of the government, as I reminded the Minister of Labour, that I remember the time before we had the disease panel, when every government had to appoint independent commissions to study a disease and every government got tied up in endless debate that became politicized. Ultimately, in most cases, in our experience, the government, the WCB, lost.

Keep the panel. Keep independent scientific advice. We recognize that you might want to take the world-is-flat approach to public policy, which is what this is. You're saying: "Ignore scientific advice. We don't need that. Make it political." We say the disease panel has served an extremely useful function. I will remind members of the government that it was a study appointed by the previous Tory government that recommended the disease panel. It's a panel that has provided scientific advice and evidence on very difficult issues, issues that ought not to be politicized, issues that ought to be dealt with on their merits.

We've heard from the occupational health clinics of Ontario, the United Steelworkers, the CAW, various labour councils, and I've even heard from a number of employer groups who don't want to be back to the old days when you'd get a commission, it would take time and it would be costly and eventually it would rule. Let's have independent, scientific advice. Let's make that part of public policy so that where a worker contracts a disease related to his or her workplace they can be fairly compensated and when it's scientifically shown not to be, then we can move on. But let's not stifle scientific debate, please.

Mr Bisson: This is probably one of the most negative things that you're doing in this bill from the perspective of what it means over the long term to injured workers in this province. I'm not going to go into the whole detail of it because I think most people here understand what the ODP does. But two things really strike me here.

First of all, the government prides itself on saying it's a government of common sense. It prides itself on saying, "We want to take the politics out of the system." By taking the ODP out of where it is now, as an independent body that bases its decisions on scientific evidence, you're going to be politicizing it. What you're doing will end up tying governments in future to having to deal with these issues, because the board will not have the ability to the degree they do now to deal with what are very scientific, very complicated issues; that is, the relationship between industrial disease and a person's health. You're turning the clock back and you're going to be politicizing the system. That's the first point.

The second thing is, it flies in the face of all common sense. You pretend that all of a sudden government members, or opposition members for that fact, all of us, are so-called experts on industrial diseases. There may very well be a few of us who know something about it, but nobody here is an expert. That is why we have the ODP in place, so that they're able to go out as a board, to consult with the scientific community, both within the province of Ontario and abroad, to take a look at the scientific data, to approach it from a scientific perspective, and to make a decision based on the reality and not the politics.

On the one hand you're politicizing, on the other hand you're saying the scientific community doesn't know what it's talking about when it comes to industrial diseases. I don't know. I'll put my faith behind the scientific community before I put it behind yours any day.

The last thing I want to say about this particular issue -- I know our critic, Mr Christopherson, has a number of things to say, because he was at the hearings with me and heard a number of deputations that were quite compelling to keep this in place -- is the personal perspective of what this means for citizens. I come from a mining community. Like Shelley Martel, I come from a community that has thousands and thousands of people who have died on the basis of what happened to them in the underground. Why? Because they went to work one day and, over a period of time, they were diseased because of the mining environment.

We here in the NDP and within the United Steelworkers of America, the union from which I come, were able to go before the ODP and present the scientific data about what happened to these workers and say: "Don't listen to the Steelworkers, don't listen to the widows, don't listen to the survivors and, God, don't listen to the NDP. We want you to listen to the scientific community as to what the relationship is between lung cancer and having worked underground." What happened in the end? We were able to prove that there was a causal relationship between the two, which gave fair compensation to those people who unfortunately passed away and their survivors who needed benefits.

You're taking away access to any justice that miners today have and their families unfortunately will not have once this policy goes in place. I'll tell you, if there's one thing in my community that people understand about workers' compensation, it's that you need to make sure you have an ability to deal with these issues in a progressive way, because if you don't, you're putting it back in the hands of those people who caused the problem in the first place: the mining community and those people who have the bucks, who elected you people and keep you in power with their money so that workers are denied access and get the shaft yet again.

Mr Hoy: It is indeed true that as this committee travelled to the few cities we were allowed to go to, the Occupational Disease Panel was brought up by many who felt that independent research in the health area and workplace area was indeed required; for example, Report to the Workmen's Compensation Board on the Health Effects of Occupational Exposure to Fluids Used for Machining and Lubricating Metals in Manufacturing: Cancer of the Esophagus, in August 1996. The Occupational Disease Panel can provide information on those situations that may exist. Hard Rock Mining and Lung Cancer is another report they've produced; and Stomach Cancer in Ontario Gold Miners; and Cardiovascular Disease and Cancer among Firefighters. The reports are substantial, they're independent and they provide a mechanism for those persons to know whether their workplace is safe or not.

We believe that this motion to ensure that an independent Occupational Disease Panel exists in the future of Ontario is indeed required and provides workers with an expanded degree of safety within the workplace.

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Mr Maves: Prior to 1985 one of the things that most people said clearly , and that the government of the day recognized, was that the WCB at that time wasn't doing any research or the appropriate amounts of research. The idea of the Occupational Disease Panel was to make sure that some of that research would actually be done. With Bill 99, I should point out that we are telling the board that they have now a duty to monitor developments in injury and disease prevention and to ensure that generally accepted advances in these disciplines are reflected in the board's functions. In order to promote health and safety in workplaces, which is something that the board has a new function to do which it didn't have before, they now have a mandate and a responsibility for occupational health and safety research.

We believe that bringing the ODP within the board will help to better coordinate the research that will be done. There is more money. There is more research that is going to be done. I would point out that all of the --

Mr Bisson: All hogwash. Do you believe in Santa Claus?

The Chair: Mr Bisson, come to order.

Mr Maves: I would point out that all of the provinces have their WCB responsible for this type of research. As I said, ours never was. Now, with the changes in its duties, its functions and the purpose clause also stress that the board has responsibility for occupational health and safety research. On several occasions, I've talked about the task force on research which includes the Ministry of Labour, the WCB, the Institute for Work and Health and university researchers, which has been established and is in the process of developing a broad research strategy. We've talked about that several times before.

I would also like to reiterate that we already know that the Minister of Labour has already made an announcement with regard to increased funding for research, which is going to be done within the board between now and the year 2000. That will take research from a total of $5.5 million that's done right now to over $12 million by the year 2000.

This is a new role for the board. It didn't have it before 1985; it has it now. We even heard from people from the Occupational Disease Panel that the previous board, which was even a bipartite board, quite often wouldn't respond to some of the Occupational Disease Panel's reports. There was a dysfunctional relationship there. If the board now is in charge of this, is asking for research to be done, is working with the private sector and teaching hospitals and universities to get research done, then there is a much greater onus now for the board to follow through and take steps with regard to the results of that research.

As I said, we've had this discussion several times before and that's where the government's position is on this issue.

Ms Shelley Martel (Sudbury East): May I begin by saying that I don't know what the parliamentary assistant's experience has been with the WCB, but I've got to say, based on what you just said, that it has to be pretty limited. Look, the problem here is, you folks decided to take away the bipartite board of directors and now you've got all your employer friends who are going to form the board of directors, and your employer friends have no interest whatsoever in paying compensation to victims of industrial disease -- none. They don't want to.

Let me tell you how this is going to work in the real world that the rest of us live with, that you obviously have no understanding of. In the real world, when you take away the independent Occupational Disease Panel and you turn those functions over to the board, the board will not do what it's supposed to do. We had clear evidence of that from Homer Seguin, who was a member of the disease panel, who came before this committee in Sudbury and said that in the last nine years the Occupational Disease Panel did more to link industrial disease to workplaces and workplace practices and to put forward a method of compensation than the WCB did in 70 years prior to that.

That's the kind of experience we're going to return to because it is not in the board's interest to link compensation to workplaces and to pay people. It's going to be even less in the board's interest to do that now when you have stacked the WCB board of directors with your employer friends. These are the same people who should be paying compensation to survivors because, God knows, the people who put the claims in are dead already from the industrial diseases they suffered from.

What will happen in the real world, which you don't seem to understand much about, Mr Parliamentary Assistant, is that there will be no effort made to do research, there will be no effort made to link industrial disease to workplaces and workplace practices, and there sure as hell won't be any effort made to provide compensation to the survivors who deserve it, not under the regime you are setting up.

That is why we have so strongly argued to maintain the independent Occupational Disease Panel, because that is a panel that has the scientific experts who are capable of doing the work that needs to be done to ensure that people who have contracted industrial disease get compensation for that. I have no confidence whatsoever that staff at the Workers' Compensation Board will do that job. I have none because they didn't for 70 years before this panel was first introduced. It is not in the interests of the board of directors to compensate people who suffer from industrial disease. The pricetag is too high because the numbers of people are far too high.

If you're going to do anything, for goodness sake at least try and provide the ways and means to ensure that people who have suffered from industrial disease, many of them who are dead, are at least going to the have the opportunity for their survivors to get something, because what you propose, which is to do away with the independent ODP and to put that under the board, will surely, as we sit here today, ensure that no one who should get compensated is going to get it from here on in with respect to industrial disease. That's what you've set up under this legislation.

Mr Christopherson: I'd first like to say to the parliamentary assistant that I think it's quite indicative, given the profile that we have made of the elimination of the Occupational Disease Panel, that the first thing you tried to do here today was to have the amendment -- and by the way, this is a Liberal amendment. We're going to support it. We have one that's very similar. I'm not sure if we're going to get that far down the package, so I'll make all our comments on this Liberal motion, because it comes first in the order of debate.

When you tried to have this killed, what you were trying to do once again was muzzle democracy, and for once we won one little battle in this war. I'll tell you something, Bart: It looks good on you. Now you know what it's like to be shut down when you've got something to say and have your tricks work against you. You've tried every time to do everything you can to limit discussion, to limit debate, to limit the hearings. You have a disgraceful record to account for and I don't know how the hell you plan to do that back in Niagara Falls when you go knocking on doors and every injured worker says: "Oh, you're that Bart Maves, aren't you? I know what I'm going to do with you, pal." That day is coming.

The Chair: Mr Christopherson, please speak to the amendment. Page 20, please.

Mr Christopherson: I'd remind everybody again that the cost of losing the Occupational Disease Panel is exactly the same amount of money this government is going to waste on changing the name, so that they can take out the word "worker" and they can take out the word "compensation" and insert the word "insurance," because we all know this is the tee-up to privatizing WCB. If you don't do it this mandate, your hope is to do it the second time. Make no mistake: No one is fooled. That's your long-term goal; that's why you changed the name. It's so disgusting that it's $1 million to change the name to set up for privatization and it's $1 million to run the Occupational Disease Panel in a way that continues to get the credibility and respect it has around the world.

Interruption.

The Chair: Order, please. Mr Christopherson has the floor.

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Mr Christopherson: Let me also point out to you, Parliamentary Assistant and members of the government back bench, that other than one or two employer groups, primarily the Ontario Mining Association -- that's who's driving this, and we know it.

I've raised in the House before a copy of a letter that was sent to you from the Ontario Mining Association in July 1995 that outlined, I believe it was, six things that they wanted, and one of those things was the folding up of the Occupational Disease Panel. I'm here to tell you, you've delivered to your pals in the Ontario Mining Association 100% of the things on that list, and all you've given to injured workers in this province is the boot.

I've got a letter here which reflects probably the thoughts of about 80% or 90% of the people who presented and commented on the Occupational Disease Panel. If you really were listening in the hearings, the only people, other than one or two employer groups, primarily the Ontario Mining Association -- outside of that, everybody who talked about the Occupational Disease Panel said it needs to stay where it is, it needs to stay independent and that you owe it to injured workers of the future to do the right thing in terms of preventing workplace illness and disease.

What do I have today? I have today a letter dated August 11, 1997, addressed to your boss, the Minister of Labour, and it reads:

"Dear Ms Witmer:

"During a recent meeting of the advisory board of the Mines Accident Prevention Association of Ontario, our members discussed the work of Ontario's Occupational Disease Panel. The issue was raised in light of the recent announcement that this panel will be disbanded.

"Our board members believe the panel has made a valuable contribution to health and safety in the mining industry and we would like to ask you to reconsider the decision regarding the panel. Please allow this worthwhile body to remain intact to continue its work."

It's signed by Don McGraw, the co-chair for labour of the Mines Accident Prevention Association of Ontario, which is an Ontario Natural Resources Safety Association, and it is signed by Rick Brown, co-chair on behalf of management of the Mines Accident Prevention Association of Ontario.

Parliamentary Assistant, it's not just injured workers, it's not just the opposition parties, it's not just community groups, it's not just academics and physicians and other people in the scientific community -- although, for God's sake, they ought to be enough -- but it's not just them. It's also an independent bipartite body that truly cares about safety, and management has signed on here and said that you ought to stop what you're doing. When are you going to start listening to people?

I would think that the reason this happened is because enough of the management people -- maybe not all of them but certainly enough of the management; because it's a bipartite board, you had to get some votes from the other side -- have a conscience. Regardless of whatever political dictates you might have tried to send out from the Premier's office or the Ministry of Labour's office, these people felt that they had to live with themselves. Why don't you start thinking that way, and the same for your colleagues on the back benches? Think about what it's like to live with yourself, given the number of people who are going to be hurt, diseased and die on the job because of what you're doing.

I accept that there are those who are going to say that's just a lot of loud rhetoric, but the fact of the matter is that position is backed up by academics, by the scientific community, by the physician community, all the people who don't have a vested interest in anything other than workers and their health.

Why do they feel this way about it? Why is it so draconian? The fact of the matter is that my colleague from Sudbury East has already alluded to it, and I'll want to expand on it because it's the pivotal thing here.

The first thing you did was make sure in Bill 15 that you took away the right of injured workers to have 50% of the say on the WCB board of directors. We in the NDP government gave injured workers what they should have had decades ago, which was an equal say in how you run the WCB. You passed legislation that let you fire those worker representatives right off the board, so now it's controlled by your pals. Only your pals, your Premier and your labour minister, through order in council, appoint their friends, Mike Harris's golf buddies, to the WCB board of directors. That was step one with Bill 15.

Then what happened? In folding up the Occupational Disease Panel, you removed the ability of independent decision-making about what gets studied. You can talk about increasing the amount of money you're putting into study, but if the problem's over here and you're throwing buckets of money over there, you're still going to miss what's going on and we think that's what you want to do. You can announce that you're spending more money, but it depends on where you're spending it and what you are studying.

Right now, the labour movement and workers in this province have faith -- it's not perfect, nothing is -- that the independence of the Occupational Disease Panel serves them well, that it allows an honest evaluation of where there may be significant linkages between exposures in the workplace or practices in the workplace that are directly causing injuries, illness and death. They have that faith.

In fact in the correspondence that we've received from around the world, urging you not to do this, it's that independence that they hold out as the crucial thing. There are jurisdictions around the world that hold out what we do now with the Occupational Disease Panel and say in their jurisdictions, for God's sake, "If you really want to help injured workers, look what they do in Ontario."

This is a really good thing. They've got a proven track record; it works. It's determining where claims ought to be legitimized and it's also pointing out for employers who want to and for the government that has to force those employers that it's necessary to, to correct the things in the workplace that are causing it, so you're taking care of financially compensating, even though you don't like that word any more, injured workers who have become diseased or died on the job through no fault of their own. Secondly, you're identifying why it's happening so that somebody else in that workplace and somebody else's family doesn't lose a loved one because you can go after the source.

I'll tell you something else. It may be that from time to time where there are certain suspicions about some substances, they may determine that's not the cause. It may be that all the labour representatives and all the activists on the floor, the trained health and safety committee members, even through their best goodwill and their own belief of what's right, could be wrong. If that's the case, then that ought to be declared and found out too because then you can move on and find out what is the cause.

This isn't about making sure that labour has a favourite hammer as a tool and a weapon that's out there. It's a tool and a weapon in the fight to stop workers from getting hurt. That's what it's a tool for.

The only answer for doing this, given that it can't be money -- because you know as well as I do that neither you nor anyone else in the Tory government can justify saying, "We have to cut this for $1 million" when you're left with explaining the fact that your name change alone costs the same amount of money as the issue that we're raising here -- the only reason you're doing this is because the decision-making around what studies will be done -- and what studies aren't going to be done, more importantly -- will not be made by interested, objective, arm's-length participants. No, no. That decision about what gets studied and what doesn't get studied will be made by your pals and Mike Harris's pals, who you've appointed to the WCB board of directors because you turfed off all the labour representatives. If you think for one second anybody believes that's an improvement for the workplace in terms of how it affects injured workers, then you're the one who's got dysfunctional relationships with reality, not the Occupational Disease Panel.

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Mr Duncan: I wanted to have a chance to respond to the parliamentary assistant's response to our motion. First of all, the parliamentary assistant won't remember this, nor will any of their officials, but a fellow by the name of Professor Paul Weiler travelled this province extensively in the early 1980s and a government headed by one William G. Davis brought forward a bill called Bill 101, which died at the time the last Tory government died.

It was there that this was originally conceived, and why was it conceived? Because Professor Weiler found -- and he did consultation. It was very controversial. Mr Crevar and Mr Biggin will remember those days, as will a number of other people in this room. He did consultation. He spoke with employers, he spoke with injured workers, he spoke with community groups and everybody said, "You need an independent voice." Why? Because the board can't be judge and jury. You won't get fairness. Ontario became a leader and we produced a panel that has produced outstanding research. I would say, and employers I have talked to have said, ultimately it's a better process.

I say to the government members that in doing this, you're turning back the clock a mere 10 years, 12 years and you're turning back a piece of public policy that served workers and employers. You're turning back a piece of public policy that we're going to lose and that will leave us in the same predicament we were in prior to 1986, when this was finally implemented.

I think we can say that those who believe the world is round will restart the clock in 1999 and restore a sensitivity to what research has shown, what independent councils have shown, what independent public hearings showed and what the research that's come out of the panel is: that a properly constituted panel can provide useful information and serve as a proper mechanism for adjudicating decisions around diseases that arise in the workplace, a process that prior to the panel had been hopelessly political, had been hopelessly dogged by infighting. This is one that at least ensures fairness and equity, not just for injured workers but for employers.

I would submit that like the individual who cosigned that letter, other employers will be asking you within a couple of years and will be asking the new government in 1999 to please reinstate the disease panel. Professor Weiler's recommendations, the recommendations of the Davis government that introduced this concept initially, were sound and good public policy that served everybody, workers and employers. They just make good sense.

Mr Bisson: It's very frustrating to be sitting here and listening to the inaction of the government when it comes to this particular amendment, especially given where I come from. I come from a community, as I said earlier, that is basically a mining community. When I entered into the workforce, it was in that mining community. Maybe I can try to put this in a bit of a personal perspective. Maybe that'll help to change the government's mind.

When we as young men grew up in the community called Timmins -- they were probably the same in Sudbury, Elliot Lake, Kirkland Lake and a whole bunch of other communities -- you try to do what your father does. If your father was a miner, you try to aspire to become a miner yourself, because it is a good profession to be employed in. The problem is, once you got there, you found that all was not well in the mining industry.

In fact I remember as a young man the first mine that I worked at was an asbestos mine, Johns Manville. I remember working with miners and also with crusher mechanics who used to spit blood because the fibre of the asbestos would get into their lungs and create lesions on their lungs that eventually killed them, because eventually those lesions, in a number of cases, turned to cancer.

I remember far too often sitting in what we called the doghouse. The doghouse is not where you go when you're bad in the mining industry, it's where you go to wait to go underground. While you're waiting for the cage to pick you up to bring you underground, you sit in what's called the doghouse.

What always struck me as a young man entering into the mining community was how many of these guys -- and they weren't old men, they were people my age; I consider myself young, I'm in my forties -- who had Ventolin puffers in their lunch pails. Why did they have Ventolin puffers? Because they couldn't breathe unassisted without them. Why? Nobody really knew at the time why. We suspected it was because of mining. The doctors said it was because of smoking cigarettes and the mining community said it was because of smoking cigarettes. The WCB said it was smoking cigarettes and so did the government of the day. The problem was, they weren't all smokers.

We were trying to figure out what was going on. I remember also at that time watching in a community called Schumacher, that lies halfway between Timmins and South Porcupine, a bunch of not retired miners but miners who couldn't go to work any more. Why? Because functionally they couldn't work underground. They didn't have the breath. They didn't have the stamina to work underground because their lungs wouldn't see them through a day in the underground.

You'd see young men in their forties and early fifties walking all they could to try to get to the post office to check their mail because that was their activity of the day, or even trying to get to the Schumacher hotel or whatever one was available around shift change, the point being that these guys couldn't walk more than a block to a block and a half without grabbing the side of a building because they couldn't breathe.

You know what? All of this happened in the view of the then government. All of this happened in the view of the mining operators and the medical community of our town. How many times did we hear, after workers unfortunately were deceased, that their widows or their family tried to bring this case up before the Workers' Compensation Board to get some justice for the survivors, the family, the young children who were left behind? Every time we heard the same answer: "He was a smoker."

What do you do when he's not a smoker? They'd find some other reason: that he had tuberculosis. In fact, in the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s they were sending diseased miners, diseased from silicosis and lung cancers, to sanatoriums in southern Ontario on the basis of a lame diagnosis by doctors who, quite frankly, were in cahoots, as we say in my language, with the mining community's diagnosis of tuberculosis. It's amazing how many people died of TB up in Timmins. It's amazing.

But you know what happened? At one point workers got smart and they got organized. That's something workers are going to have to learn yet again. We started to organize, first among ourselves and then within our unions, to try to find the way to address this issue, because all we knew was that our guys were dying. We didn't know why. We suspected why, but we didn't have the scientific proof. I remember because I was one of those young men who --

Interjection.

Mr Bisson: We finish at 5?

The Chair: Yes.

Mr Bisson: This is really great. Let me just come to the point. The point I'm making here is, the mining community, the doctors, the board, everybody did nothing. The only time we got justice is when we finally convinced the then government to form the IDSP, as it was called at the time. We put the scientific proof before them. They did their jobs, not us, and as a result we got some justice for injured workers. You plan to bring us back to the bad old days. I say to you, Parliamentary Assistant, and I say to every one of you on the government side, people will remember this. Why? Because it is wrong. In the end, who's going to get hurt? Unfortunately it's going to be the people in the mining communities across this province, in firehalls and in smelter mills and all over who get diseased from working underground. I say shame to you or any government that would attempt to do this to injured workers.

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The Chair: Colleagues, as Mr Bisson indicated, it is now 5 o'clock. The time allocation motion under which we're operating states the following, and I'll quote it just so that you know:

"At 5 pm on the fourth day of clause-by-clause deliberations, those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved and the Chair of the committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall without further debate or amendment put every question necessary to dispose of all the remaining sections of the bill and any amendments thereto. Any divisions required shall be deferred until all remaining questions have been put and taken in succession with one 20-minute waiting period allowed pursuant to standing order 128(a)."

Accordingly then, I will now begin putting every question required to conclude the clause-by-clause process.

I want to ask one thing, though, colleagues. Because the committee has been honouring a standing request by Mr Christopherson for recorded votes on all the questions, may I assume there's unanimous consent to deem that the questions have been put, and, a recorded vote having been requested on each one -- if that is the case -- I can then proceed with taking the divisions on each question.

Mr Christopherson: On that point, the answer is yes.

I want to raise a point of order. I'm sure there are people here today, and also I to some degree, who fail to understand how it is that given the fact that we're at number 20 and there are 256 amendments -- some of those are crucial amendments on the part of the opposition. For instance, just quickly off the top of my head, we haven't yet had a chance to talk about chronic pain and what this government is doing to limit the rights of workers there, the elimination of any kind of claim for occupational stress, the loss of independence of WCAT, the fact that workers have to give up their own personal medical information or be denied compensation. We haven't even got to the 85% from 90% yet. All of these things have not been debated or discussed.

How is it that a government that says it is democratic foists on all of us a process that, at amendment number 20 out of 256, all debate ceases when we've still got all these issues outstanding? I'd like to know how a government that says it's democratic can do that to us.

The Chair: Mr Christopherson, it's not a point of order. You know that this committee conducts its business under the rules that are given to it by the House.

Mr Christopherson: I'm just assuming that there must be some mistake and so I'm seeking a clarification.

The Chair: No. That is correct.

Mr Christopherson: The government has always said that they believe in open government, transparent, balanced and fair, democratic rights.

The Chair: Mr Christopherson, that is not a point order. You know full well --

Mr Christopherson: I've got to believe that you're misinterpreting it, Chair. It can't be, because what you're saying is not consistent with what the government is saying. So there's got to be a mistake here. There must be a mistake. This kind of undemocratic procedure couldn't be done by someone who claims to be so democratic; it couldn't possibly. You must be mistaken, Chair.

The Chair: I am following the standing orders under the rules that are given to this committee, as you well know. I need to clarify, though. Is there unanimous consent for us to deem the questions and for the recorded vote to be put on each one? Do we have unanimous consent?

Mr Christopherson: What exactly is it that you're seeking unanimous consent on? We're still going to do them one at a time?

The Chair: Yes, we'll still do one at a time. But what I'm seeking is that the recorded vote be done at that particular time, rather than having to do them all over again at the end. We deem that all motions are put and then we would have a division on each amendment as we go through them.

Mr Christopherson: That's what you'd like to do. What's the other process?

The Chair: They would be deemed to be put. We would go through them one by one and then we would go back through them for a recorded vote.

Mr Christopherson: Which one takes the longest?

The Chair: The second.

Mr Christopherson: That's what I thought. That's what I would prefer. If you need unanimous consent for an expedited process, I will gladly go on record as being opposed to granting unanimous consent.

Mr Duncan: On a point of order, Chair: If we do have to vote on these individually, would they not each have to be read into the record as well?

The Chair: No, they do not have to be read into the record. We can read the page. Just as long as we know we're all working on the same one, we can read the page number.

Mr Duncan: Could I ask legislative counsel for an opinion on that? My understanding was the motion deemed them put but that if we're voting on an individual item, that item has to be read into the record.

The Chair: Counsel, your advice?

Mr Russell Yurkow: I would refer that to the clerk.

The Chair: We'll refer that to the clerk.

Clerk Pro Tem (Mr Todd Decker): The time allocation motion under which you're operating states that at 5 pm those motions which have not yet been moved are deemed to have been moved, which is the same as deeming them to have been read into the record.

Mr Duncan: Do the rules not prescribe, however, in the Legislature that prior to a vote we have to read them again? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Clerk Pro Tem: No.

Mr Bisson: Not with this motion.

Mr Duncan: Shut down again.

The Chair: All right. Just to clarify, we do not have unanimous consent. We'll begin with the Liberal motion on page 20. All those in favour? All those opposed? We'll defer the vote.

Mr Duncan: On a point of order, Chair: Do we not have a recorded vote on each one of these?

The Chair: We need unanimous consent to do that; otherwise we have to go through them and then come back. Let me do this slightly differently. I'm sorry. I have not done this before, so I have to be sure I'm doing this right. We'll go to page 21, a government motion: Is a recorded vote required?

Mr Duncan: My view is we should be voting on each of these amendments. They have been deemed to be put. We should be voting on them independently; otherwise we have to cast one big vote. I would much prefer to deal with each one of these individually on their merits.

The Chair: My understanding is that we do have to vote on each on separately. What we'll determine here is if a recorded vote is required for each one separately, or we can vote on it right at this point in time without a recorded vote. Mr Christopherson has a motion on the floor from some time past, indicating he wants a recorded vote on each one.

Mr Maves: We're going to vote once on all of them, defer them and then come back and vote again.

The Chair: Actually, we can just defer them.

Mr Doug Galt (Northumberland): Having recorded votes on every one is just ludicrous.

The Chair: That's what I tried to do, but we don't have unanimous consent to do that. We'll move to the Liberal motion on page 22.

Mr Christopherson: Did we do 21?

The Chair: Sorry. Government motion on page 21: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This motion is deferred.

Liberal motion on page 22: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This motion is deferred.

Government motion on page 23: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This motion is deferred.

Government motion on page 24: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This motion is deferred.

Government motion on page 25: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This motion is deferred. That motion is on pages 25 and 26.

Liberal motion on page 27: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. The motion is deferred.

NDP motion on page 28: A recorded vote is required? Yes. This amendment is deferred.

Government motion on page 29: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

Liberal motion on page 30: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

Liberal motion on page 31: A recorded vote is required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

Government motion on page 32: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion on page 33: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

Liberal motion on page 34: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

Government motion on page 35: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion on page 36: Is a recorded vote is required? Yes. This vote is deferred. And on pages 37, 38 and 39; it's all one motion:

Liberal motion on page 40: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

Liberal motion on page 41: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

Government motion on page 42: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

Government motion on page 43: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

Liberal motion on page 44: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

NDP motion on pages 45 and 46: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 47: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 48: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 49: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

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Liberal motion on page 50: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 51: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 52: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 53: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 54: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 55: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 56: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 57: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 58: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 59: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 60: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 61: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 62: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 63: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 64: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

NDP motion on page 65: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 67: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Mr Christopherson: Sorry, was that 67 or 68, Chair?

The Chair: That was 67.

Liberal motion on page 68: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 69: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 70: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 71: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 72: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

NDP motion on page 73: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 74: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 75: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 76 is an NDP motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred. That also extends to page 77 for the same motion.

Liberal motion on page 78: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 79: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 80: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 81: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 82: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 83: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 84: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 85, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 86: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 87: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 88: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 89: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 90: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 91, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 92, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

NDP motion on page 93: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 94, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 95: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

NDP motion on page 96: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 97, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 98: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 99, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 100, NDP motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Government motion on page 101: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 102, a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 103, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 104, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion on page 105: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 106, NDP motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 107, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Pages 108 and 109, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 110, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 111, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 112, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 113, NDP motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 114, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 115, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 116, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 117, alternate: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, page 118: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 119, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 120, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 121, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 122, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Liberal motion, page 123: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 124, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 125, NDP motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 126, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 127, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 128, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 129, also a government amendment: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 130, government amendment: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 131, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 132, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 133, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 134, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 135, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 136, an NDP motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 137, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 138, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 140, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 141, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 142, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 143, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 144, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 145, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 146, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 147, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 148, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 149, government motion: Recorded vote? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 150, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 151, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 152, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 153, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 154, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 155, NDP motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 156, NDP motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 157, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

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Page 158, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 159, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 160, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 161, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 162, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Pages 163 and 164, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 165, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 166, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 167, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 168, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 169, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 170, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 171, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 172, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 173, Liberal motion: Recorded vote needed? Vote deferred.

Page 174, NDP motion needed?

Mr Christopherson: All NDP motions are needed.

The Chair: Sorry, Is a recorded vote required? Yes. That also includes page 175. Vote deferred.

Page 176, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 177, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 178, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 179, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 180, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 181, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 182, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 183, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 184, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 185, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 186, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 187, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 188, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 189, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 190, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 191, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 192, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 193, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 194, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 195, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred. That same motion includes page 196.

Page 197, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 198, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 199, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 200, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 201, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 202, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 203, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 204, also government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 205, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 206, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 207, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 208, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 209, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 210, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Pages 211 and 212, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 213, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 214, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 215, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 216, Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 217, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 218 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 219, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

NDP motion, page 220. Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 221, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 222, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 223, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Pages 224 and 225, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 226, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 227, government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 228 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 229 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 230 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 231 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 232 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 233 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 234 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 235 is a Liberal motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 236 is an NDP motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 237 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 238 is an NDP motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 239 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 240 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 241 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 242 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 243 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Page 244 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

On page 245 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

On page 246 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

On page 247 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

Interjection.

The Chair: Don't break my pattern.

On page 248 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

On page 249 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

On page 250 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

On page 251 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. This vote is deferred.

On page 252 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

On page 253 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. That vote is deferred.

On page 254 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. Vote deferred.

On page 255 is a government motion: Is a recorded vote required? Yes. That vote is deferred.

On page 256 is a Liberal motion.

Interjection.

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The Chair: The last one is out of order. That will not be put.

We'll go back now for our recorded votes. We'll begin on page 20, Liberal amendment. Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

The Chair: The motion is lost.

On page 21, a government amendment. Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Carried.

Interruption.

The Chair: Order, please, so we can hear.

Shall section 4 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 4, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 5, Liberal amendment, page 22. Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

Shall section 5 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 5 shall carry.

Shall section 6 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 6, as amended, shall carry. Sorry, section 6, unamended, shall carry.

On schedule A, section 7, page 23, government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

On page 24, a government amendment: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Shall section 7 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 7, as amended, shall carry.

Moving now to section 7.1 of schedule A, government amendment, pages 25 and 26, shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

On schedule A, we'll do sections 8, 9 and 10 together. Shall sections 8, 9 and 10 carry?

Mr Christopherson: Individual recorded votes on those.

The Chair: All right. On schedule A: Shall section 8 carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

On schedule A, section 9: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 9, schedule A, shall carry.

On schedule A, section 10: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This section carries.

On schedule A, section 11, this is a Liberal amendment on page 27. Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Shall section 11 carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 11 of schedule A carries.

The Chair: On schedule A, section 12, NDP amendment on page 28: Shall this amendment carry?.

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

On schedule A, page 29, government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 12 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 12 of schedule A carries, as amended.

On schedule A, section 13, Liberal amendment on page 30. Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

On schedule A, section 13, Liberal amendment, page 31: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

Shall section 13 carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 13 of schedule A shall carry.

On schedule A, section 14, government amendment on page 32: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment is carried.

On schedule A, NDP motion, page 33: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

On schedule A, page 34: a Liberal amendment: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The motion is lost.

Schedule A, government amendment, page 35: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Pages 36, 37, 38 and 39, an NDP amendment to schedule A: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

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Shall section 14, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

On schedule A, section 15: Shall section 15 carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment is carried.

Shall schedule A, section 16 carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The schedule carries.

On schedule A, section 17: Shall section 17 carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 17 shall carry.

On schedule A, section 18: Shall section 18 carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 18 carries.

On schedule A, section 19: Shall section 19 carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 19, Schedule A, shall carry.

On schedule A, section 20, a Liberal amendment on page 40: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

On schedule A, Liberal amendment, page 41: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

Government motion on page 42: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Government amendment on page 43: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Shall section 20 of Schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 20, as amended, carries.

Interruption.

The Chair: Order, please. It's very difficult to be able to hear and for the recorded votes to be taken.

Schedule A, section 21, page 44, a Liberal amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

On page 44 and page 45, shall the amendment carry? This is an NDP amendment.

Interjection.

The Chair: No, this is one amendment. On pages 45 and 46, it's one amendment, an NDP motion. Shall that carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

On page 47, a Liberal motion: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

On page 48, a government amendment: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

A Liberal amendment on page 49: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

On page 50, a Liberal amendment: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

Shall section 21 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 21 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 22: Shall section 22 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 22 of schedule A carries.

On schedule A, section 23: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 23 of schedule A carries.

On schedule A, section 24, page 51, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Shall section 24 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 24 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 25, a government amendment, page 52: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Shall section 25 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 25, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 26, a government amendment, page 53: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 26 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 26 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 27, a Liberal amendment, page 54: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

On page 55, a government amendment: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

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Shall section 27 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Interruption.

The Chair: Order, please. We have to be able to hear as the recorded vote is read out.

On schedule A, section 28: Shall section 28 of this schedule carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 28 of schedule A carries.

On schedule A, section 29, a government amendment, page 56: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

On schedule A, a government amendment, page 57: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 29 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 29 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 30: Shall section 30 of schedule A carry?

Mr Christopherson: Page 58 refers to section 30. Is that an amendment?

The Chair: Just one moment. We were checking something.

Yes, there is an amendment on page 58. That amendment is out of order, so we will continue on.

On schedule A, section 30 --

Mr Christopherson: On a point of order, Madam Chair: For some kind of consistency, could we have an explanation of why this motion's out of order? It's the first time we've heard that. Not that I think it's a great idea or a bad idea, but I would like to know what the legal argument is for withdrawing it.

The Chair: The amendment to delete the whole section is out of order. It has to be done individually; that's why.

Mr Christopherson: You're saying there has to be an amendment to a specific part of the section, and this isn't?

The Chair: Yes, it is out of order to have an amendment that speaks to an entire section.

Mr Christopherson: I see. It's because it's not specific within the section?

The Chair: You would simply vote against it, yes.

Mr Christopherson: Is that right? It's because it's not specific within the section?

The Chair: That's correct, as I understand it, yes.

Mr Duncan: Then am I misinterpreting that the government's recommending voting against its own bill in this clause? The government recommends voting against section 30. You're recommending voting against your own bill.

The Chair: That's not a point of order. We're dealing with the specifics of how they --

Mr Duncan: Just thought I'd ask.

The Chair: Moving to schedule A, section 30: Shall section 30 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This section is lost.

On schedule A -- order, please. There are so many conversations going on, it's very difficult to hear.

On schedule A, section 31, a government amendment, page 59: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

An amendment on page 60, a government amendment: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 31 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 31 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 32, a Liberal amendment, page 61: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Section 32 of schedule A, a government amendment, page 62: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 32 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 32 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 33, a government amendment on page 63: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Schedule A, subsection 33(2), Liberal amendment, page 64: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, DeFaria, Duncan, Galt, Hastings, Hoy, Jordan, Martel, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Also on schedule A, section 33, an NDP amendment, on page 65 --

Mr Maves: On a point of order, Madam Chair: This is identical to the previous one.

The Chair: Yes, it is identical, so it is out of order.

Moving to page 66, a Liberal amendment: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Page 67, a Liberal amendment: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

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A Liberal amendment on page 68 to schedule A, section 33: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Duncan, Hoy.

Nays

Christopherson, DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Martel, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Page 69, a Liberal amendment: Shall the amendment carry?

Ayes

Duncan, Hoy.

Nays

Christopherson, DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Martel, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Shall section 33 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 33 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 34, a government amendment on page 70: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 34 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 34 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 35, page 71, a Liberal amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

Shall section 35 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 35 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 36, a government amendment, page 72: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

NDP amendment, page 73: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Government amendment on page 74: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 36 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 36 of schedule A, as amended, shall carry.

Schedule A, section 37, a Liberal amendment, page 75: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Duncan, Hoy.

Nays

Christopherson, DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Martel, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

NDP amendment on pages 76 and 77: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Liberal amendment on page 78: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Government amendment on page 79: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 37 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 37 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 38, a Liberal amendment on page 80: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The Liberal amendment on page 80 is lost.

Shall section 38 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 38 of schedule A carries.

On schedule A, section 39, a Liberal amendment, page 81: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Hoy.

Nays

Christopherson, DeFaria, Hastings, Jordan, Martel, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

Shall section 39 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 39 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 40, government amendment, page 82: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Order, please. If you have a private conversation to carry on, would you please do that outside so that the members of the committee can hear the vote being called?

Government amendment on page 83: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Government amendment, page 84: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Page 85, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Liberal amendment on page 86: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

A Liberal amendment on page 87: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Government amendment on page 88: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Government amendment on page 89: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Liberal amendment on page 90: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

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The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Shall section 40 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 40, then, of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

On schedule A, section 41, a government amendment on page 91: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

A Liberal amendment on page 92: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

NDP amendment on page 93: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This motion is lost.

A Liberal amendment on page 94: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

Shall the Liberal amendment on page 95 carry?

Ayes

Duncan, Hoy.

Nays

Christopherson, DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Martel, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

On page 96, an NDP amendment: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

On page 97, a Liberal amendment: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

A government amendment on page 98: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: That amendment is carried.

Schedule A, a Liberal amendment on page 99: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

NDP motion on page 100: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

A government motion, page 101: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Page 102, a government amendment: Shall this motion carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 41 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 41 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 42, a government amendment on page 103: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Page 104, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

A Liberal amendment, page 105: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

NDP amendment on page 106: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The motion is lost.

Page 107, a Liberal amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Pages 108 and 109 are one amendment; it's a government amendment. Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 42 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 42 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Part VI of schedule A, a government amendment, page 110: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

On schedule A, section 43, a government amendment, page 111: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: It carries.

Page 112 is a Liberal amendment. Shall this motion carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This motion is lost.

An NDP amendment on page 113: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

Page 114, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

A government amendment, page 115: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: It carries.

Liberal amendment, page 116: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This is lost.

Liberal amendment, page 117: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Lost.

NDP amendment, page 118: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

A Liberal amendment, page 119: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

Page 120, a Liberal amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Lost.

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Page 121, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Page 122, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 43 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 43 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 44, an amendment on page 23: This is a Liberal amendment. Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Lost.

Shall section 44 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 44 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 45, a Liberal amendment, page 124: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

An NDP motion, page 125: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Lost.

A government amendment, page 126: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

A government amendment, page 127: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Carries.

Schedule A, page 128, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Shall section 45 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 45 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 46, a government amendment, page 129: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Page 130, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 46 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 46 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 47: Shall the Liberal amendment on page 131 carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: It's lost.

A government amendment, page 132: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: It carries.

A government amendment, page 133: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 47 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Opposed?

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 47 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 48, a government amendment, page 134: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

A government amendment, page 135: Does this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

An NDP amendment on page 136: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Lost.

A government amendment, page 137: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment is carried.

A government amendment, page 138: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Page 139, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Page 140, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Opposed?

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

A Liberal amendment, page 141: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: The amendment is lost.

A government amendment on page 142. Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Opposed?

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This carries.

A government amendment on page 143: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Opposed?

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

A government amendment on page 144: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Page 145, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Carries.

Page 146, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Page 147, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Page 148, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

A government amendment on page 149: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

On page 150, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Page 151 is also a government amendment. Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Carried.

Shall section 48 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

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The Chair: Section 48 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 49, a Liberal amendment on page 152: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Shall section 49 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 49 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 50: Shall section 50 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 50 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 51, a government amendment on page 153. Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 51 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 51 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 52, a government amendment on page 54: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Shall section 52 of schedule A, as amended, then carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 52 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 53, an NDP amendment on page 155: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: It is lost.

Page 156, an NDP amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment also is lost.

On page 157, a Liberal amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Also lost.

Shall section 53 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 53 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 54: Shall this section of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 54 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 55: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 55 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 56: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 56, does carry.

Schedule A, section 57, a government amendment, page 158: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 57 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 57 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 58: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 58 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 59: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 59 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 60, a government amendment, page 159: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

A government amendment, page 160: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Schedule A, a government amendment, page 161: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This carries.

Page 162, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 60 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 60 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 60.1, a government amendment, pages 163 and 164: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: It carries.

Schedule A, section 61: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 61 of schedule A does carry

Schedule A, section 62: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 62 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 63: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 63, does carry.

Schedule A, section 64, a government amendment, page 165: Does this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment is carried.

Page 166, a government amendment: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment does carry.

Shall section 64 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 64 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 65: Does this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 65 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 66: Does this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: It does carry.

Schedule A, section 67: Does this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 67, schedule A, does carry.

Schedule A, section 68: Does this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 68, does carry.

Schedule A, section 69: Does this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 69, schedule A, does carry.

Schedule A, section 70: Does this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 70, does carry.

Schedule A, section 71: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 71, does carry.

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Schedule A, section 72, a government amendment, page 167: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 72 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: Section 72 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 73: Shall this carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: Section 73, schedule A, does carry.

Schedule A, section 74: Shall this carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 74, does carry.

Schedule A, section 75, government amendment, page 168: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 75 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: Section 75 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Shall section 76 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: Section 76 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 77, government amendment, page 169: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Shall section 77 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: Section 77 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

On schedule A, section 78: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: Section 78 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 79: Shall this carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Martel.

The Chair: Section 79, schedule A, does carry.

Schedule A, section 80, amendment by the government on page 170: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

A government amendment on page 171: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment is carried.

A Liberal amendment, page 172: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

The Chair: This amendment is lost.

Shall section 80 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 80 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 81: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 81, schedule A, does carry.

Schedule A, section 82, Liberal amendment, page 173: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

The Chair: This Liberal amendment is lost.

NDP amendment on pages 174 and 175: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

The Chair: It is lost.

Page 176, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 82 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 82 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Section 82.1 of schedule A, a government amendment, page 177: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Schedule A, section 33: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 83 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 84: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 84 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 85: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 85 of schedule A carries.

Shall schedule A, section 86, carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 86 of schedule A carries.

On schedule A, section 87, a government amendment on page 178: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 87 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 87 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 88: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 88, schedule A, does carry.

Schedule A, section 89: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 89, does carry.

Schedule A, section 90, there is a government amendment, page 179: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Schedule A, a government amendment on page 180: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 90 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 90 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 91, a government amendment on page 181: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Another amendment on page 182, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

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The Chair: This amendment is carried.

Shall section 91 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 91 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 92, a Liberal amendment on page 183: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

Nays

Galt, Hastings, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

The Chair: This is lost.

Shall section 92 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy, Martel.

The Chair: Section 92 of schedule A does carry.

Shall a government amendment on section 92.1 of schedule A on page 184 carry?

Ayes

Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

On schedule A, section 93, page 185, a government amendment: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 93 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 93 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 94, government amendment, page 186: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 94 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 94 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 95, a Liberal amendment, page 187: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

The Chair: Lost.

Shall section 95 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 95 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule 95.1 of schedule A, a government amendment on page 188: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment is carried.

On schedule A, section 96: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This section carries.

Part IX of schedule A, a government amendment, page 189: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

On schedule A, section 97, a government amendment on page 190: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 97 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 97 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 98, a government amendment on page 191: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 98 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 98 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 99: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 99 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 100, a government amendment, page 192.

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Shall section 100 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 100 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 101, a government amendment on page 193: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 101 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 101 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 102, a government amendment on page 194: Shall it carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 102 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 102 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 103, a government amendment on pages 195 and 196: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 103 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 103 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 104, a government amendment on page 197: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Page 198, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment also carries.

Page 199, a government amendment to section 104: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Carried.

Government amendment on page 200: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

A government amendment on page 201 to section 104: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment also carries.

Page 202, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Page 203, a government amendment: Shall it carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 104 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 104 of schedule A, as amended, does carry

Section 104.1 of schedule A, a government amendment, page 204: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

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On schedule A, section 105, a government amendment on page 205: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: The amendment carries.

Government amendment, page 206: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Page 207, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

A government amendment on page 208: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 105 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 105 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 106, a government amendment on page 209: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

On 210, a government amendment: Shall that carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment also carries.

Shall section 106 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 106 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Section 106.1 of schedule A, a government amendment on pages 211 and 212: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Schedule A, section 107: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 107, does carry.

Schedule A, section 108: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries. Section 108, schedule A, does carry.

Schedule A, section 109: Shall it carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 109 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 110: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 110 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 111: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 111 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 112: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 112, carries.

On schedule A, section 113, a government amendment on page 213: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 113 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 113 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

On schedule A, section 114, government amendment on page 214: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 114 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 114 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Schedule A, section 115, a government amendment on page 215: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 115 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 115 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Section A, section 116: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 116 of schedule A carries.

Section A, section 117, a Liberal amendment on page 216: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

The Chair: It's lost.

On 217, a government amendment: Shall it carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Government amendment on page 218: Shall it carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

An amendment on page 219, a government amendment: Shall it carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment is carried.

Shall section 117 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 117 of schedule A, as amended, is carried.

On schedule A, section 118, an NDP amendment on page 220: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

The Chair: That is lost.

On page 221, a government amendment: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 118 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 118, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 119, a government amendment on page 222: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

An amendment on page 223, a government amendment: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 119 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 119 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

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Section 119.1 of schedule A, a government amendment on pages 224 and 225: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It's carried.

On schedule A, section 120, a government amendment on page 226: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Page 227, a government amendment: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 120 of schedule A then, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 120 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 121: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 121 of schedule A carries.

Shall section 122 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 122 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 123: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 123 carries.

Schedule A, section 124: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 124, schedule A, carries.

Schedule A, section 125: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 125 of schedule A carries.

On schedule A, section 126, a government amendment on page 228: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 126 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 126 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 127, a government amendment, page 229: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 127 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 127 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 128, does this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 128, schedule A, carries.

Schedule A, section 129: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 129, schedule A, carries.

Schedule A, section 130: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 130 carries.

Schedule, section 131, a government amendment on page 230: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 131 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Carried.

Schedule A, section 132: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It is carried. Section 132 of schedule A is carried.

Schedule A, section 133: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 133 of schedule A carries.

Section 134 of schedule A, shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 134 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 135, a government amendment on page 231: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 135 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 135 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 136: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 136 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 137: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 137 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 138: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 138 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 139: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 139 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 140: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 140 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 141: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 141 of schedule A carries.

On schedule A, section 142, a government amendment on page 232: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 142 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 142 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 143, a government amendment on page 233: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 143 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 143 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Section 144, schedule A: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Maves.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 144, carries.

Schedule A, section 145: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 145 carries.

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Schedule A, section 146: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 146 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 147: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 147 of schedule A carries.

Section 148 of schedule A: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 148 of schedule A carries.

On schedule A, section 149, this is a government amendment on page 234. Oh sorry, this is also out of order.

Interjections.

Clerk Pro Tem: It's not in order to move a motion to strike out a section of a bill. The proper thing to do is simply vote against the section as standing as part of the bill.

The Chair: I'm sorry. Same as before; exactly the same.

Schedule A, section 149: Shall that section carry?

Nays

DeFaria, Duncan, Galt, Hastings, Hoy, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: Section 149 of schedule A is lost.

Schedule A, section 150: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That section carries.

Schedule A, section 151: Shall that section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Schedule A, section 151, carries.

Schedule A, section 152: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 152 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 153, a Liberal amendment on page 235: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

There's an NDP amendment on page 236: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That amendment is lost.

Another amendment on page 237, a government amendment: Shall it carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Page 238, also an NDP amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

Nays

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: It's lost.

Page 239, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment is carried.

A government amendment on page 240: Shall the amendment carry?.

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment is carried.

Shall section 153 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 153 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 154: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 154, schedule A, is carried.

Schedule A, section 155, a government amendment on page 241 Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: This amendment carries.

Shall section 155 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 155 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

Section A, section 156: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 156 of schedule A carries.

Section 157 of schedule A: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 157 of schedule A does carry.

Shall section 158 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 158 of schedule A carries.

Section 159 of schedule A: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 159 of schedule A carries.

Section 160 of schedule A: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 160 of schedule A carries.

Section 161 of schedule A: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 161 of schedule A carries.

Section 162 of schedule A: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 162 of schedule A carries.

Section 163 of schedule A: Does this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 163 of schedule A does carry.

Schedule A, section 164, a government amendment on page 242: Shall this amendment carry? Sorry, this is also out of order.

Shall section 164 of schedule A carry?

Nays

Christopherson, DeFaria, Duncan, Galt, Hastings, Hoy, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

The Chair: That section is lost. Section 164 of schedule A is lost.

Schedule A, section 165: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

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The Chair: Section 165 of schedule A carries.

Section 166 of schedule A: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 166 of schedule A carries.

Section 167 of schedule A: Shall this section carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 167 of schedule A carries.

On schedule A, section 168, a government amendment on page 243: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Page 244, government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Page 245, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 168 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 168 of schedule A, as amended, does carry.

On schedule A, section 169, a government amendment on page 246: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

A government amendment on page 247: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

An amendment on page 248, also a government amendment: Shall it carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 169 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 169 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 170: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 170 of schedule A carries.

Schedule A, section 171: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 171 of schedule A carries.

Shall section 172 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 172 of schedule A carries.

Shall section 173 of schedule A carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 173 of schedule A carries.

On schedule A, section 174: Shall the amendment on page 249 carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment is carried.

Another amendment on page 250, a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Shall section 174 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 174 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Schedule A, section 175, a government amendment on page 251: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment carries.

Another amendment, page 252, also a government amendment: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 175 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 175 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

On schedule A, section 176, there is a government amendment on page 253: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 176 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 176 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Section 177 of schedule A: Shall this carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 177 of schedule A carries.

Section 178, schedule A, a government amendment on page 254: Shall this amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: That amendment is carried.

Shall section 178 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 178 of schedule A, as amended, carries.

Section 179, schedule A, a government amendment on page 255: Shall that amendment carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It carries.

Shall section 179 of schedule A, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Section 179, schedule A, as amended, carries.

Shall the schedule, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: The schedule, as amended, will carry.

Shall the long title of the bill carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: The long title, not amended, shall carry.

Shall the short title of this bill, not amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: The short title of the bill shall carry.

Shall Bill 99, as amended, carry?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: Bill 99, as amended, shall carry.

Shall I report Bill 99, as amended, to the House?

Ayes

DeFaria, Galt, Hastings, Jordan, Maves, O'Toole, Ouellette, Stewart.

Nays

Christopherson, Duncan, Hoy.

The Chair: It shall be reported.

That concludes our clause-by-clause review of this bill. We will stand adjourned and reconvene at the call of the Chair.

The committee adjourned at 1941.