43rd Parliament, 1st Session

 

43rd Parliament, 1st session 

 

43e Législature, 1re session 

 

Votes and Proceedings



 

Procès-verbaux



 

No. 174




 

Nº 174




 

Tuesday
October 29, 2024



 

Mardi
29 octobre 2024



 

Hon. Ted Arnott
Speaker

L'hon. Ted Arnott
le président

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2024
ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY-FOURTH DAY

MARDI 29 OCTOBRE 2024
CENT SOIXANTE-QUATORZIÈME JOUR

9:00 A.M.

Prayers

9 H

Prières

Orders of the Day

Ordres du jour

Second Reading of Bill 214, An Act to amend various energy statutes respecting long term energy planning, changes to the Distribution System Code and the Transmission System Code and electric vehicle charging.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 214, Loi modifiant diverses lois sur l'énergie en ce qui a trait à la planification énergétique à long terme, aux modifications touchant les codes appelés Distribution System Code et Transmission System Code et à la recharge des véhicules électriques.

Debate arose and after some time, the debate adjourned at 10:14 a.m.

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps, à 10 h 14, le débat était ajourné.

The Acting Speaker (Lucille Collard) informed the House,

La présidente suppléante (Lucille Collard) a informé l’Assemblée,

That the following document was tabled:

Que le document suivant a été déposé :

Report entitled Ontario’s Credit Rating: 2024-2025 Update from the Office of the Financial Accountability Officer of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 666).

Rapport intiulé La cote de crédit de l’Ontario : Mise à jour de 2024-2025 du Bureau de la responsabilité financière de l’Ontario (Document parlementaire no 666).

10:15 A.M.

10 H 15

Deferred Votes

Votes différés

Motion for allocation of time on Bill 197, An Act to amend the Highway Traffic Act and Bill 194, An Act to enact the Enhancing Digital Security and Trust Act, 2024 and to make amendments to the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act respecting privacy protection measures.

Carried on the following division:

Adoptée par le vote suivant :

Ayes/pour (62)
Allsopp
Allsopp
Anand
Anand
Bailey
Bailey
Barnes
Barnes
Bouma
Bouma
Bresee
Bresee
Byers
Byers
Calandra
Calandra
Cho (Willowdale)
Cho (Willowdale)
Clark
Clark
Coe
Coe
Crawford
Crawford
Cuzzetto
Cuzzetto
Dixon
Dixon
Downey
Downey
Gallagher Murphy
Gallagher Murphy
Grewal
Grewal
Hamid
Hamid
Hardeman
Hardeman
Harris
Harris
Hogarth
Hogarth
Jones (Chatham-Kent—Leamington)
Jones (Chatham-Kent—Leamington)
Jordan
Jordan
Kanapathi
Kanapathi
Ke
Ke
Kerzner
Kerzner
Leardi
Leardi
Lecce
Lecce
Martin
Martin
McCarthy
McCarthy
McGregor
McGregor
Mulroney
Mulroney
Oosterhoff
Oosterhoff
Pang
Pang
Parsa
Parsa
Piccini
Piccini
Pierre
Pierre
Pinsonneault
Pinsonneault
Pirie
Pirie
Quinn
Quinn
Rae
Rae
Riddell
Riddell
Romano
Romano
Sabawy
Sabawy
Sandhu
Sandhu
Sarkaria
Sarkaria
Sarrazin
Sarrazin
Saunderson
Saunderson
Scott
Scott
Skelly
Skelly
Smith (Parry Sound—Muskoka)
Smith (Parry Sound—Muskoka)
Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)
Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)
Smith (Scarborough Centre)
Smith (Scarborough-Centre)
Smith (Thornhill)
Smith (Thornhill)
Surma
Surma
Tangri
Tangri
Thompson
Thompson
Tibollo
Tibollo
Triantafilopoulos
Triantafilopoulos
Wai
Wai
Williams
Williams
Yakabuski
Yakabuski
 
Nays/contre (38)
Andrew
Andrew
Armstrong
Armstrong
Bell
Bell
Bourgouin
Bourgouin
Bowman
Bowman
Brady
Brady
Burch
Burch
Clancy
Clancy
Collard
Collard
Fife
Fife
Fraser
Fraser
French
French
Gates
Gates
Gélinas
Gélinas
Glover
Glover
Gretzky
Gretzky
Harden
Harden
Hazell
Hazell
Hsu
Hsu
Jama
Jama
Karpoche
Karpoche
Kernaghan
Kernaghan
Mantha
Mantha
McCrimmon
McCrimmon
McMahon
McMahon
Pasma
Pasma
Rakocevic
Rakocevic
Sattler
Sattler
Schreiner
Schreiner
Shamji
Shamji
Shaw
Shaw
Stevens
Stevens
Tabuns
Tabuns
Taylor
Taylor
Vanthof
Vanthof
Vaugeois
Vaugeois
West
West
Wong-Tam
Wong-Tam
 

Ordered, That, pursuant to Standing Order 50 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or special Order of the House relating to Bill 197, An Act to amend the Highway Traffic Act and Bill 194, An Act to enact the Enhancing Digital Security and Trust Act, 2024 and to make amendments to the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act respecting privacy protection measures;

That when Bill 197 is next called as a Government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Second Reading stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, upon receiving Second Reading, Bill 197 shall be referred to the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure and Cultural Policy; and

That the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure and Cultural Policy be authorized to meet on Wednesday, November 13, 2024 at 11:00 a.m. until 12:00 p.m. to receive a 20-minute opening statement on Bill 197 by the Minister of Transportation or designate, followed by 40 minutes of questions and answers, divided into two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Government members, two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Official Opposition members, and two rounds of 5 minutes for the independent member of the Committee; and

That the Committee be authorized to meet on Wednesday, November 13 from 1:00 p.m. until 5:00 p.m., for the purpose of public hearings on Bill 197; and

That the Clerk of the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure and Cultural Policy, in consultation with the Committee Chair, be authorized to arrange the following with regard to Bill 197:

  • That the deadline for requests to appear be 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, November 5, 2024; and
  • That the Clerk of the Committee provide a list of all interested presenters to each member of the Sub-committee and their designate following the deadline for requests to appear; and
  • That, if not all interested presenters can be scheduled, each member of the Sub-committee or their designate provide the Clerk of the Committee with a prioritized list of presenters to be scheduled, chosen from the list of all interested presenters, by 2:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 6, 2024; and
  • That witnesses shall be scheduled in groups of three for each one-hour time slot, with each presenter allotted 7 minutes to make an opening statement followed by 39 minutes of questioning for all three witnesses, divided into two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Government members, two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Official Opposition members, and two rounds of 4.5 minutes for the independent member of the Committee; and
  • That the deadline for written submissions be 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 13, 2024; and
  • That the deadline for filing amendments to the Bill with the Clerk of the Committee shall be 7:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 13, 2024; and

That the Committee be authorized to meet on Friday, November 15 from 10:00 a.m. until 12:00 p.m., from 1:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m., and from 7:00 p.m. until midnight for the purpose of clause-by-clause consideration of Bill 197; and

That on Friday, November 15, 2024 at 7:00 p.m., those amendments to Bill 197 which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the Bill and any amendments thereto; and at this time, the Chair shall allow one waiting period, if requested by a member of the Committee, pursuant to Standing Order 131(a); and

That the Committee shall report Bill 197 to the House no later than Monday, November 18, 2024 and if the Committee fails to report the Bill on that day, the Bill shall be deemed passed by the Committee and shall be deemed reported to and received by the House; and

That upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure and Cultural Policy on Bill 197, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith; and

That upon adoption of the report, Bill 197 shall be ordered for Third Reading, which order may be called the same day; and

That when the order for Third Reading of Bill 197 is called, 55 minutes shall be allotted to debate with 25 minutes for Members of His Majesty's Government, 25 minutes for Members of His Majesty's Loyal Opposition, and 5 minutes for the independent Members as a group; and

That, at the end of this time, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Third Reading stage of Bill 197 without further debate or amendment; and

That when Bill 194 is next called as a Government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Second Reading stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, upon receiving Second Reading, Bill 194 shall be referred to the Standing Committee on Justice Policy; and

That the Standing Committee on Justice Policy be authorized to meet on Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 a.m. to receive a 20-minute opening statement on Bill 194 by the Minister of Public and Business Service Delivery and Procurement or designate, followed by 40 minutes of questions and answers, divided into two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Government members, two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Official Opposition members, and two rounds of 5 minutes for the independent member of the Committee; and

That the Committee be authorized to meet at the following times, for the purpose of public hearings for Bill 194:

  • on Thursday, November 14 from 11:00 a.m. until 12:00 noon, and from 1:00 p.m. until 5:00 p.m.; and
  • on Friday, November 15 from 10:00 a.m. until 12:00 noon, and from 1:00 p.m. until 5:00 p.m.; and

That the Clerk of the Standing Committee on Justice Policy, in consultation with the Committee Chair, be authorized to arrange the following with regard to Bill 194:

  • That the deadline for requests to appear be 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 6, 2024; and
  • That the Clerk of the Committee provide a list of all interested presenters to each member of the Sub-committee and their designate following the deadline for requests to appear; and
  • That, if not all interested presenters can be scheduled, each member of the Sub-committee or their designate provide the Clerk of the Committee with a prioritized list of presenters to be scheduled, chosen from the list of all interested presenters, by 2:00 p.m. on Thursday, November 7, 2024; and
  • That witnesses shall be scheduled in groups of three for each one-hour time slot, with each presenter allotted 7 minutes to make an opening statement followed by 39 minutes of questioning for all three witnesses, divided into two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Government members, two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Official Opposition members, and two rounds of 4.5 minutes for the independent member of the Committee; and
  • That the deadline for written submissions be 6:00 p.m. on Friday, November 15, 2024; and
  • That the deadline for filing amendments to the Bill with the Clerk of the Committee shall be 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, November 19, 2024; and

That the Committee be authorized to meet on Thursday, November 21 from 9:00 a.m. until 10:15 a.m., from 1:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m., and from 7:00 p.m. until midnight for the purpose of clause-by-clause consideration of Bill 194; and

That on Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 7:00 p.m., those amendments to Bill 194 which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the Bill and any amendments thereto; and at this time, the Chair shall allow one waiting period, if requested by a member of the Committee, pursuant to Standing Order 131(a); and

That the Committee shall report Bill 194 to the House no later than Monday, November 25, 2024, and if the Committee fails to report the Bill on that day, the Bill shall be deemed passed by the Committee and shall be deemed reported to and received by the House; and

That upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Justice Policy on Bill 194, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith; and

That upon adoption of the report, Bill 194 shall be ordered for Third Reading, which order may be called the same day; and

That when the order for Third Reading of Bill 194 is called, 55 minutes shall be allotted to debate with 25 minutes for Members of His Majesty's Government, 25 minutes for Members of His Majesty's Loyal Opposition, and 5 minutes for the independent Members as a group; and

That, at the end of this time, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Third Reading stage of Bill 194 without further debate or amendment.


The House recessed at 12:04 p.m.

À 12 h 04, l’Assemblée a suspendu la séance.


3:00 P.M.

15 H

Introduction of Bills

Dépôt de projets de loi

The following Bills were introduced and read the first time:

Les projets de loi suivants sont présentés et lus une première fois :

Bill 215, An Act to proclaim the month of September as Ukrainian Heritage Month. Sheref Sabawy.

Projet de loi 215, Loi proclamant le mois de septembre Mois du patrimoine ukrainien. Sheref Sabawy.

Bill Pr52, An Act to revive MS Remedies Inc. Effie J. Triantafilopoulos.

Motions

Motions

On motion by Steve Clark,

Sur la motion de Steve Clark,

Ordered, That the following changes be made to the membership of the following Committees:
On the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, Tyler Allsopp replaces John Yakabuski; and
On the Standing Committee on the Interior, Rudy Cuzzetto replaces Tyler Allsopp.

Petitions

Pétitions

No./Petition title/Titre de la pétitionPresented by/Présentée par
P-20Investments in manufacturing sectorAnthony Leardi
P-20Investments in manufacturing sectorSheref Sabawy
P-27Retirement home feesFrance Gélinas
P-136Université de SudburyFrance Gélinas
P-180Post-secondary educationJamie West
P-225Neurological movement disorder clinicFrance Gélinas
P-232Funding for supervised consumption sites and consumption and treatment service sitesJamie West
P-243Fleming College program suspensionsPeggy Sattler
P-244Electric vehicles manufacturing sectorLorne Coe
P-244Electric vehicles manufacturing sectorAnthony Leardi
P-245Dresden LandfillSandy Shaw
P-246Ring of Fire developmentChristine Hogarth

Orders of the Day

Ordres du jour

Second Reading of Bill 194, An Act to enact the Enhancing Digital Security and Trust Act, 2024 and to make amendments to the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act respecting privacy protection measures.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 194, Loi édictant la Loi de 2024 visant à renforcer la sécurité et la confiance en matière de numérique et modifiant la Loi sur l'accès à l'information et la protection de la vie privée en ce qui concerne les mesures de protection de la vie privée.

Pursuant to the Order of the House passed earlier today,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée adopté plus tôt aujourd’hui,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Carried.

Adoptée.

Pursuant to the Order of the House passed earlier today,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée adopté plus tôt aujourd’hui,

Referred to the Standing Committee on Justice Policy.

Renvoyé au Comité permanent de la justice.

Second Reading of Bill 197, An Act to amend the Highway Traffic Act.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 197, Loi modifiant le Code de la route.

Pursuant to the Order of the House passed earlier today,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée adopté plus tôt aujourd’hui,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Carried.

Adoptée.

Pursuant to the Order of the House passed earlier today,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée adopté plus tôt aujourd’hui,

Referred to the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure and Cultural Policy .

Renvoyé au Comité permanent du patrimoine, de l'infrastructure et de la culture .

Second Reading of Bill 212, An Act to enact two Acts and amend various Acts with respect to highways, broadband-related expropriation and other transportation-related matters.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 212, Loi visant à édicter deux lois et à modifer diverses lois en ce qui concerne les voies publiques, les expropriations liées aux projets d'Internet à haut débit et d'autres questions relatives au transport.

Debate resumed, during which the Acting Speaker (Lucille Collard) interrupted the proceedings and announced that there had been six and one-half hours of debate and that the debate was deemed adjourned.

Le débat a repris. La présidente suppléante (Lucille Collard) a interrompu les travaux et a annoncé qu’il y avait eu six heures et demie de débat et que le débat était réputé ajourné.

With unanimous consent,

Avec le consentement unanime,

Ordered, That notwithstanding Standing Order 9(a), the House agreed to commence Private Members’ Public Business before 6:00 p.m. today.

Ordonné que, nonobstant l’article 9 a) du Règlement, l’Assemblée a accepté de commencer les affaires d’intérêt public émanant des députées et députés avant 18 h aujourd’hui.

Private Members' Public Business

Affaires d'intérêt public émanant des députées et députés

No business was designated for Ballot Item No. 24.

Aucune affaire désignée pour le billet de député no 24.

Adjournment Debate

Débat sur la motion d'ajournement

At 5:49 p.m., the following matter was considered in an adjournment debate.

À 17 h 49, la question suivante a été examinée dans un débat d’ajournement.

Member for Carleton (Goldie Ghamari) to the Parliamentary Assistant to the Premier (Lorne Coe) – Lifejackets and Joshua's Law.

The House adjourned at 5:55 p.m.

À 17 h 55, l’Assemblée a ajourné ses travaux.


Responses to Petitions

Réponses aux pétitions

No./Petition title/Titre de la pétitionPresented by/Présentée parDate tabled/Date de dépôt
P-134Ontario Science CentreStephanie BowmanApril 22, 2024
P-216Reid Road Reservoir QuarryMonique TaylorApril 23, 2024
P-217Funding for Public TransitJoel HardenApril 23, 2024