43rd Parliament, 1st Session

43rd Parliament, 1st session

43e Législature, 1re session

Votes and Proceedings



Procès-verbaux



No. 173




Nº 173




Monday
October 28, 2024



Lundi
28 octobre 2024



Hon. Ted Arnott
Speaker

L'hon. Ted Arnott
le président

MONDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2024
ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY-THIRD DAY

LUNDI 28 OCTOBRE 2024
CENT SOIXANTE-TREIZIÈME JOUR

9:00 A.M.

Prayers

9 H

Prières

Orders of the Day

Ordres du jour

Third Reading of Bill 190, An Act to amend various statutes with respect to employment and labour and other matters.

Troisième lecture du projet de loi 190, Loi modifiant diverses lois relatives à l’empoi et au travail et à d’autres questions.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Steve Clark moved, under Standing Order 51 “That this question be now put”.

Steve Clark a proposé, conformément à l’article 51 du Règlement « Que cette question soit maintenant mise aux voix ».

Carried.

Adoptée.

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Third Reading of Bill 190, An Act to amend various statutes with respect to employment and labour and other matters.

Troisième lecture du projet de loi 190, Loi modifiant diverses lois relatives à l’empoi et au travail et à d’autres questions.

Carried.

Adoptée.

The Bill passed.

Le projet de loi est adopté.

Second Reading of Bill 212, An Act to enact two Acts and amend various Acts with respect to highways, broadband-related expropriation and other transportation-related matters.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 212, Loi visant à édicter deux lois et à modifer diverses lois en ce qui concerne les voies publiques, les expropriations liées aux projets d'Internet à haut débit et d'autres questions relatives au transport.

Debate resumed and after some time, the debate adjourned at 10:14 a.m.

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps, à 10 h 14, le débat était ajourné.

10:15 A.M.

10 H 15

Deferred Votes

Votes différés

Second Reading of Bill 203, An Act to amend the Commitment to the Future of Medicare Act, 2004 with respect to payments to nurse practitioners.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 203, Loi modifiant la Loi de 2004 sur l'engagement d'assurer l'avenir de l'assurance-santé à l'égard des honoraires à verser aux infirmières praticiennes et aux infirmiers praticiens.

Lost on the following division:

Rejetée par le vote suivant :

Ayes/pour (33)
Andrew
Andrew
Armstrong
Armstrong
Bell
Bell
Bourgouin
Bourgouin
Bowman
Bowman
Clancy
Clancy
Collard
Collard
Fife
Fife
Fraser
Fraser
French
French
Gates
Gates
Glover
Glover
Gretzky
Gretzky
Harden
Harden
Hsu
Hsu
Jama
Jama
Karpoche
Karpoche
Kernaghan
Kernaghan
McCrimmon
McCrimmon
McMahon
McMahon
Pasma
Pasma
Rakocevic
Rakocevic
Sattler
Sattler
Schreiner
Schreiner
Shamji
Shamji
Shaw
Shaw
Stevens
Stevens
Stiles
Stiles
Tabuns
Tabuns
Taylor
Taylor
Vaugeois
Vaugeois
West
West
Wong-Tam
Wong-Tam
  
Nays/contre (66)
Allsopp
Allsopp
Anand
Anand
Babikian
Babikian
Bailey
Bailey
Barnes
Barnes
Bethlenfalvy
Bethlenfalvy
Bouma
Bouma
Brady
Brady
Bresee
Bresee
Byers
Byers
Calandra
Calandra
Cho (Scarborough North)
Cho (Scarborough-Nord)
Cho (Willowdale)
Cho (Willowdale)
Clark
Clark
Coe
Coe
Crawford
Crawford
Cuzzetto
Cuzzetto
Dixon
Dixon
Dowie
Dowie
Downey
Downey
Flack
Flack
Gallagher Murphy
Gallagher Murphy
Grewal
Grewal
Hamid
Hamid
Hardeman
Hardeman
Harris
Harris
Hogarth
Hogarth
Jones (Chatham-Kent—Leamington)
Jones (Chatham-Kent—Leamington)
Jordan
Jordan
Kanapathi
Kanapathi
Ke
Ke
Kerzner
Kerzner
Kusendova-Bashta
Kusendova-Bashta
Leardi
Leardi
Lecce
Lecce
Martin
Martin
McCarthy
McCarthy
McGregor
McGregor
Mulroney
Mulroney
Oosterhoff
Oosterhoff
Pang
Pang
Parsa
Parsa
Piccini
Piccini
Pierre
Pierre
Pinsonneault
Pinsonneault
Quinn
Quinn
Rae
Rae
Riddell
Riddell
Romano
Romano
Sabawy
Sabawy
Sandhu
Sandhu
Sarkaria
Sarkaria
Sarrazin
Sarrazin
Saunderson
Saunderson
Scott
Scott
Skelly
Skelly
Smith (Parry Sound—Muskoka)
Smith (Parry Sound—Muskoka)
Smith (Scarborough Centre)
Smith (Scarborough-Centre)
Surma
Surma
Tangri
Tangri
Thanigasalam
Thanigasalam
Thompson
Thompson
Triantafilopoulos
Triantafilopoulos
Wai
Wai
Williams
Williams
Yakabuski
Yakabuski
 

The House recessed at 11:47 a.m.

À 11 h 47, l’Assemblée a suspendu la séance.


1:00 P.M.

13 H

Petitions

Pétitions

No./Petition title/Titre de la pétitionPresented by/Présentée par
P-31Replacement workersJoel Harden
P-38ODSP RatesJill Andrew
P-38ODSP RatesMike Schreiner
P-42Northern Health Travel GrantJamie West
P-50Changes to education fundingKristyn Wong-Tam
P-146Spine careJohn Fraser
P-154EndometriosisJohn Fraser
P-212Legal process respecting sexual assault casesSandy Shaw
P-242Path 525 Overdose Prevention ServiceLise Vaugeois

Orders of the Day

Ordres du jour

Opposition Day

Jour de l’opposition

Marit Stiles moved,

Marit Stiles a proposé,

Whereas mental healthcare is healthcare;
Therefore, in the opinion of the House, the Ontario Government must deliver mental healthcare at no cost to individuals as part of Ontario's universal healthcare plan.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Lost on the following division:

Rejetée par le vote suivant :

Ayes/pour (33)
Andrew
Andrew
Armstrong
Armstrong
Bell
Bell
Bourgouin
Bourgouin
Bowman
Bowman
Clancy
Clancy
Collard
Collard
Fife
Fife
Fraser
Fraser
French
French
Gates
Gates
Glover
Glover
Gretzky
Gretzky
Harden
Harden
Hsu
Hsu
Karpoche
Karpoche
Kernaghan
Kernaghan
Mantha
Mantha
McMahon
McMahon
Pasma
Pasma
Rakocevic
Rakocevic
Sattler
Sattler
Schreiner
Schreiner
Shamji
Shamji
Shaw
Shaw
Stevens
Stevens
Stiles
Stiles
Tabuns
Tabuns
Taylor
Taylor
Vanthof
Vanthof
Vaugeois
Vaugeois
West
West
Wong-Tam
Wong-Tam
  
Nays/contre (61)
Allsopp
Allsopp
Anand
Anand
Babikian
Babikian
Bailey
Bailey
Bethlenfalvy
Bethlenfalvy
Bouma
Bouma
Bresee
Bresee
Byers
Byers
Calandra
Calandra
Cho (Willowdale)
Cho (Willowdale)
Clark
Clark
Coe
Coe
Crawford
Crawford
Cuzzetto
Cuzzetto
Dixon
Dixon
Dowie
Dowie
Downey
Downey
Flack
Flack
Gallagher Murphy
Gallagher Murphy
Grewal
Grewal
Hamid
Hamid
Hardeman
Hardeman
Harris
Harris
Hogarth
Hogarth
Jones (Chatham-Kent—Leamington)
Jones (Chatham-Kent—Leamington)
Jordan
Jordan
Kanapathi
Kanapathi
Kerzner
Kerzner
Kusendova-Bashta
Kusendova-Bashta
Leardi
Leardi
Lecce
Lecce
Martin
Martin
McCarthy
McCarthy
Mulroney
Mulroney
Oosterhoff
Oosterhoff
Pang
Pang
Parsa
Parsa
Piccini
Piccini
Pierre
Pierre
Pinsonneault
Pinsonneault
Quinn
Quinn
Rae
Rae
Riddell
Riddell
Romano
Romano
Sabawy
Sabawy
Sandhu
Sandhu
Sarrazin
Sarrazin
Saunderson
Saunderson
Scott
Scott
Skelly
Skelly
Smith (Parry Sound—Muskoka)
Smith (Parry Sound—Muskoka)
Smith (Scarborough Centre)
Smith (Scarborough-Centre)
Smith (Thornhill)
Smith (Thornhill)
Surma
Surma
Tangri
Tangri
Thanigasalam
Thanigasalam
Thompson
Thompson
Tibollo
Tibollo
Triantafilopoulos
Triantafilopoulos
Wai
Wai
Yakabuski
Yakabuski
  

The Acting Speaker (Patrice Barnes) informed the House that, in the name of His Majesty the King, Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor had been pleased to assent to the following Bill in her office on October 28, 2024.

La Présidente suppléante (Patrice Barnes) a informé l’Assemblée qu’au nom de Sa Majesté le Roi, Son Honneur la lieutenante-gouverneure a eu le plaisir de sanctionner le projet de loi suivant dans son bureau le 28 octobre 2024.

Bill 190, An Act to amend various statutes with respect to employment and labour and other matters.

Projet de loi 190, Loi modifiant diverses lois relatives à l’empoi et au travail et à d’autres questions.

The Acting Speaker (Patrice Barnes) informed the House,

La Présidente suppléante (Patrice Barnes) a informé l’Assemblée,

That pursuant to Standing Order 9(g), the Clerk received written notice from the Government House Leader indicating that a temporary change in the weekly meeting schedule of the House is required, and therefore, the Afternoon Routine on Wednesday, Month Day, Year shall commence at 1:00 p.m. (Sessional Paper No. 665).

Que, conformément à l’article 9 g) du Règlement, le greffier a reçu un avis écrit du leader parlementaire du gouvernement indiquant qu’une modification temporaire doit être apportée à l’horaire hebdomadaire des séances de l’Assemblée et, par conséquent, les affaires de l’après-midi du mercredi 30 octobre 2024 commenceront à 13 h (Document parlementaire no 665).

Steve Clark moved,

Steve Clark a proposé,

That, pursuant to Standing Order 50 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or special Order of the House relating to Bill 197, An Act to amend the Highway Traffic Act and Bill 194, An Act to enact the Enhancing Digital Security and Trust Act, 2024 and to make amendments to the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act respecting privacy protection measures;

That when Bill 197 is next called as a Government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Second Reading stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, upon receiving Second Reading, Bill 197 shall be referred to the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure and Cultural Policy; and

That the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure and Cultural Policy be authorized to meet on Wednesday, November 13, 2024 at 11:00 a.m. until 12:00 p.m. to receive a 20-minute opening statement on Bill 197 by the Minister of Transportation or designate, followed by 40 minutes of questions and answers, divided into two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Government members, two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Official Opposition members, and two rounds of 5 minutes for the independent member of the Committee; and

That the Committee be authorized to meet on Wednesday, November 13 from 1:00 p.m. until 5:00 p.m., for the purpose of public hearings on Bill 197; and

That the Clerk of the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure, and Cultural Policy, in consultation with the Committee Chair, be authorized to arrange the following with regard to Bill 197:

  • That the deadline for requests to appear be 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, November 5, 2024; and
  • That the Clerk of the Committee provide a list of all interested presenters to each member of the Sub-committee and their designate following the deadline for requests to appear; and
  • That, if not all interested presenters can be scheduled, each member of the Sub-committee or their designate provide the Clerk of the Committee with a prioritized list of presenters to be scheduled, chosen from the list of all interested presenters, by 2:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 6, 2024; and
  • That witnesses shall be scheduled in groups of three for each one-hour time slot, with each presenter allotted 7 minutes to make an opening statement followed by 39 minutes of questioning for all three witnesses, divided into two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Government members, two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Official Opposition members, and two rounds of 4.5 minutes for the independent member of the Committee; and
  • That the deadline for written submissions be 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 13, 2024; and
  • That the deadline for filing amendments to the Bill with the Clerk of the Committee shall be 7:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 13, 2024; and

That the Committee be authorized to meet on Friday, November 15 from 10:00 a.m. until 12:00 p.m., from 1:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m., and from 7:00 p.m. until midnight for the purpose of clause-by-clause consideration of Bill 197; and

That on Friday, November 15, 2024 at 7:00 p.m., those amendments to Bill 197 which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the Bill and any amendments thereto; and at this time, the Chair shall allow one waiting period, if requested by a member of the Committee, pursuant to Standing Order 131 (a); and

That the Committee shall report Bill 197 to the House no later than Monday, November 18, 2024 and if the Committee fails to report the Bill on that day, the Bill shall be deemed passed by the Committee and shall be deemed reported to and received by the House; and

That upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Heritage, Infrastructure, and Cultural Policy on Bill 197, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith; and

That upon adoption of the report, Bill 197 shall be ordered for Third Reading, which order may be called the same day; and

That when the order for Third Reading of Bill 197 is called, 55 minutes shall be allotted to debate with 25 minutes for Members of His Majesty's Government, 25 minutes for Members of His Majesty's Loyal Opposition, and 5 minutes for the independent Members as a group; and

That at the end of this time, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Third Reading stage of Bill 197 without further debate or amendment; and

That when Bill 194 is next called as a Government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Second Reading stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, upon receiving Second Reading, Bill 194 shall be referred to the Standing Committee on Justice Policy; and

That the Standing Committee on Justice Policy be authorized to meet on Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 a.m. to receive a 20-minute opening statement on Bill 194 by the Minister of Public and Business Service Delivery and Procurement or designate, followed by 40 minutes of questions and answers, divided into two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Government members, two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Official Opposition members, and two rounds of 5 minutes for the independent member of the Committee; and

That the Committee be authorized to meet at the following times, for the purpose of public hearings for Bill 194:

  • on Thursday, November 14 from 11:00 a.m. until 12:00 noon, and from 1:00 p.m. until 5:00 p.m.; and
  • on Friday, November 15 from 10:00 a.m. until 12:00 noon, and from 1:00 p.m. until 5:00 p.m.; and

That the Clerk of the Standing Committee on Justice Policy, in consultation with the Committee Chair, be authorized to arrange the following with regard to Bill 194:

  • That the deadline for requests to appear be 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 6, 2024; and
  • That the Clerk of the Committee provide a list of all interested presenters to each member of the Sub-committee and their designate following the deadline for requests to appear; and
  • That, if not all interested presenters can be scheduled, each member of the Sub-committee or their designate provide the Clerk of the Committee with a prioritized list of presenters to be scheduled, chosen from the list of all interested presenters, by 2:00 p.m. on Thursday, November 7, 2024; and
  • That witnesses shall be scheduled in groups of three for each one-hour time slot, with each presenter allotted 7 minutes to make an opening statement followed by 39 minutes of questioning for all three witnesses, divided into two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Government members, two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Official Opposition members, and two rounds of 4.5 minutes for the independent member of the Committee; and
  • That the deadline for written submissions be 6:00 p.m. on Friday, November 15, 2024; and
  • That the deadline for filing amendments to the Bill with the Clerk of the Committee shall be 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, November 19, 2024; and

That the Committee be authorized to meet on Thursday, November 21 from 9:00 a.m. until 10:15 a.m., from 1:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m., and from 7:00 p.m. until midnight for the purpose of clause-by-clause consideration of Bill 194; and

That on Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 7:00 p.m., those amendments to Bill 194 which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the Bill and any amendments thereto; and at this time, the Chair shall allow one waiting period, if requested by a member of the Committee, pursuant to Standing Order 131(a); and

That the Committee shall report Bill 194 to the House no later than Monday, November 25, 2024, and if the Committee fails to report the Bill on that day, the Bill shall be deemed passed by the Committee and shall be deemed reported to and received by the House; and

That upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Justice Policy on Bill 194, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith; and

That upon adoption of the report, Bill 194 shall be ordered for Third Reading, which order may be called the same day; and

That when the order for Third Reading of Bill 194 is called, 55 minutes shall be allotted to debate with 25 minutes for Members of His Majesty's Government, 25 minutes for Members of His Majesty's Loyal Opposition, and 5 minutes for the independent Members as a group; and

That, at the end of this time, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Third Reading stage of Bill 194 without further debate or amendment.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Vote deferred.

Le vote est différé.

Second Reading of Bill 212, An Act to enact two Acts and amend various Acts with respect to highways, broadband-related expropriation and other transportation-related matters.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 212, Loi visant à édicter deux lois et à modifer diverses lois en ce qui concerne les voies publiques, les expropriations liées aux projets d'Internet à haut débit et d'autres questions relatives au transport.

Debate resumed and after some time, the House adjourned at 5:59 p.m.

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps, à 17 h 59, l’Assemblée a ajourné ses travaux.

Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 43

Documents Parlementaires déposés conformément à l'article 43 du règlement

No., Suffix/Nº, SuffixeTitle/TitreDate tabled/Date de dépôt
663McMichael Canadian Art Collection, 2023-2024 Annual Report/Collection McMichael d’art canadien, Rapport annuel 2023-2024October 25, 2024
664Cabinet Office, Certificate pursuant to Standing Order 110(f)(1) re Intended Appointments: October 25, 2024October 25, 2024

Responses To Written Questions

Réponses Aux Questions Écrites

No./Submitted by/Présentée parOutcome/Résultat
207Mary-Margaret McMahonFinal answer tabled October 28, 2024
208Mary-Margaret McMahonFinal answer tabled October 28, 2024
209Mary-Margaret McMahonFinal answer tabled October 28, 2024
210Mary-Margaret McMahonFinal answer tabled October 28, 2024
211Kristyn Wong-TamFinal answer tabled October 28, 2024
212Kristyn Wong-TamFinal answer tabled October 28, 2024
213Kristyn Wong-TamFinal answer tabled October 28, 2024

Responses to Petitions

Réponses aux pétitions

No./Petition title/Titre de la pétitionPresented by/Présentée parDate tabled/Date de dépôt
P-10911 emergency response coverage/Accès à l'intervention d'urgence 911France GélinasApril 22, 2024
 May 7, 2024
 May 28, 2024
 June 3, 2024
P-180Post-secondary education/Éducation postsecondaireJamie WestApril 22, 2024
 May 13, 2024
 May 27, 2024
 June 4, 2024
P-215Use of chemical herbicidesFrance GélinasApril 22, 2024