Legislative Assembly of Ontario

Legislative

Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée

législative
de l’Ontario

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

No. 211

No 211

1st Session
42nd Parliament

1re session
42e législature

Monday

November 23, 2020

Lundi

23 novembre 2020

9:00 A.M.

9 H

PRAYERS

PRIÈRES

The Speaker informed the House that, in the name of Her Majesty the Queen, Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor had been pleased to assent to the following Bills in her office on November 20, 2020.

Le Président a informé l’Assemblée qu’au nom de Sa Majesté la Reine, Son Honneur la lieutenante-gouverneure a eu le plaisir de sanctionner les projets de loi suivants dans son bureau le 20 novembre 2020.

Bill 207, An Act to amend the Children’s Law Reform Act, the Courts of Justice Act, the Family Law Act and other Acts respecting various family law matters.

Projet de loi 207, Loi modifiant la Loi portant réforme du droit de l’enfance, la Loi sur les tribunaux judiciaires, la Loi sur le droit de la famille et d’autres lois en ce qui concerne diverses questions de droit de la famille.

Bill 218, An Act to enact the Supporting Ontario’s Recovery Act, 2020 respecting certain proceedings relating to the coronavirus (COVID-19), to amend the Municipal Elections Act, 1996 and to revoke a regulation.

Projet de loi 218, Loi édictant la Loi de 2020 visant à soutenir la relance en Ontario concernant certaines instances liées au coronavirus (COVID-19), modifiant la Loi de 1996 sur les municipalités et abrogeant un règlement.

PRIVATE MEMBERS’ PUBLIC BUSINESS

AFFAIRES D’INTÉRÊT PUBLIC ÉMANANT DES DÉPUTÉES ET DÉPUTÉS

Mr. Wilson moved,

M. Wilson propose,

Private Members’ Notice of Motion No. 119:-

Avis de motion émanant des députées et députés no 119 :-

That, in the opinion of this House, the Government of Ontario should continue to support planning work for the redevelopments and construction of both the Collingwood General and Marine Hospital and Stevenson Memorial Hospital in the Town of New Tecumseth, given the government’s commitment to modernizing Ontario’s healthcare system and ending hallway healthcare and, given population growth projections for Simcoe—Grey.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Carried.

Adoptée.

Resolved, That, in the opinion of this House, the Government of Ontario should continue to support planning work for the redevelopments and construction of both the Collingwood General and Marine Hospital and Stevenson Memorial Hospital in the Town of New Tecumseth, given the government’s commitment to modernizing Ontario’s healthcare system and ending hallway healthcare and, given population growth projections for Simcoe—Grey.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Second Reading of Bill 213, An Act to reduce burdens on people and businesses by enacting, amending and repealing various Acts and revoking a regulation.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 213, Loi visant à alléger le fardeau administratif qui pèse sur la population et les entreprises en édictant, modifiant ou abrogeant diverses lois et en abrogeant un règlement.

Debate resumed and after some time the debate adjourned at 10:15 a.m.

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps, à 10 h 15, le débat était ajourné.

10:15 A.M.

10 H 15

QUESTION PERIOD

PÉRIODE DE QUESTIONS

DEFERRED VOTES

VOTES DIFFÉRÉS

Motion for allocation of time on Bill 229, An Act to implement Budget measures and to enact, amend and repeal various statutes.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 53

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Barrett

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Cho (Willowdale)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzetto

Downey

Elliott

Fullerton

Gill

Harris

Hogarth

Kanapathi

Ke

Khanjin

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

McNaughton

Mulroney

Nicholls

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Parsa

Rasheed

Roberts

Romano

Sabawy

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Scott

Skelly

Smith (Peterborough–Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Yakabuski

NAYS / CONTRE - 20

Armstrong

Blais

Burch

Collard

Fife

Fraser

Gélinas

Hunter

Karahalios

Karpoche

Lindo

Morrison

Rakocevic

Sattler

Schreiner

Simard

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Stiles

Taylor

Yarde

Ordered, That, pursuant to Standing Order 50 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or special Order of the House relating to Bill 229, An Act to implement Budget measures and to enact, amend and repeal various statutes;

That when the Bill is next called as a Government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Second Reading stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, at such time, the Bill shall be ordered referred to the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs; and

That the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs be authorized to meet on Monday, November 30, 2020 from 9:00 a.m. until 10:00 a.m. to receive a 15-minute opening statement on the Bill by the Minister of Finance, followed by 45 minutes of question and answer divided into three rounds of 6 minutes for the Government Members, three rounds of 6 minutes for the Official Opposition Members, and two rounds of 4.5 minutes for the Independent Member of the Committee; and

That the Committee be authorized to meet at the following times, for the purpose of public hearings:

• on Monday, November 30, 2020 from 1:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m.; and

• on Tuesday, December 1, 2020 from 9:00 a.m. until 10:00 a.m. and from 3:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m.; and

• on Wednesday, December 2, 2020 from 9:00 a.m. until 10:00 a.m. and from 1:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m.; and

That the Clerk of the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs, in consultation with the Committee Chair, be authorized to arrange the following with regard to the Bill:

• That the deadline for requests to appear be 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 25, 2020; and

• That the Clerk of the Committee provide a list of all interested presenters to each member of the Sub-committee and their designate following the deadline for requests to appear; and

• That each member of the Sub-committee or their designate provide the Clerk of the Committee with a prioritized list of presenters to be scheduled, chosen from the list of all interested presenters, by 5:00 p.m. on Thursday, November 26, 2020; and

• That witnesses shall be scheduled in groups of three for each one-hour time slot, with each presenter allotted 7 minutes for an opening statement followed by 39 minutes of questioning for all three witnesses, divided into two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Government Members, two rounds of 7.5 minutes for the Official Opposition Members, and two rounds of 4.5 minutes for the Independent Member of the Committee; and

• That the deadline for written submissions be 7:00 p.m. on Wednesday, December 2, 2020; and

• That the deadline for filing amendments to the Bill with the Clerk of the Committee shall be 12:00 noon on Thursday, December 3, 2020; and

That the Committee be authorized to meet on Friday, December 4, 2020 from 9:00 a.m. until 12:00 noon, from 1:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m., and from 6:30 p.m. until 12:00 midnight for the purpose of clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill; and

That on Friday, December 4, 2020 at 6:30 p.m., those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the Bill and any amendments thereto; and at this time, the Chair shall allow one 20-minute waiting period, if requested by a member of the Committee, pursuant to Standing Order 132(a); and

That the Committee shall report the Bill to the House no later than Monday, December 7, 2020 and if the Committee fails to report the Bill on that day, the Bill shall be deemed passed by the Committee and shall be deemed reported to and received by the House; and

That upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, and at such time the Bill shall be ordered for Third Reading, which Order may be called the same day; and

That except in the case of a recorded division arising from morning Orders of the Day, pursuant to Standing Order 10(c), no deferral of the Second Reading vote on the Bill shall be permitted.

Private Members’ Notice of Motion Number 117:-

Avis de motion numéro 117 émanant d’un député :-

Mr. Arthur moved,

M. Arthur propose,

That, in the opinion of this House, the Ford Government should designate Kingston an Area of High Physician Need and take all necessary steps to address the lack of access to primary physician care in the city.

Lost on the following division:-

Rejetée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 18

Andrew

Armstrong

Arthur

Blais

Fife

Fraser

Gélinas

Karpoche

Lindo

Morrison

Rakocevic

Sattler

Schreiner

Simard

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Stiles

Taylor

Yarde

NAYS / CONTRE - 53

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Barrett

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Cho (Willowdale)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzetto

Downey

Elliott

Fullerton

Gill

Harris

Hogarth

Kanapathi

Ke

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

McNaughton

Mitas

Mulroney

Nicholls

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Parsa

Rasheed

Roberts

Romano

Sabawy

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Scott

Skelly

Smith (Peterborough–Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Yakabuski

The House recessed at 12:27 p.m.

À 12 h 27, l’Assemblée a suspendu la séance.

1:00 P.M.

13 H

REPORTS BY COMMITTEES

RAPPORTS DE COMITÉS

The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-

Le Président s’adresse à l’Assemblée :-

Standing Order 66(a) provides that “the Standing Committee on Estimates shall present one report with respect to all of the Estimates and Supplementary Estimates considered pursuant to Standing Orders 63 and 65 no later than the third Thursday in November of each calendar year.”

The House not having received a report from the Standing Committee on Estimates for certain ministries on Thursday, November 19, 2020, as required by the Standing Orders of this House, pursuant to Standing Order 66(b) the Estimates before the Committee of the Ministry of Heritage, Sport, Tourism and Culture Industries, Ministry of Health, Ministry of Infrastructure, Ministry of Energy, Northern Development and Mines, Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing, Ministry of Economic Development, Job Creation and Trade and Ministry for Seniors and Accessibility are deemed to be passed by the Committee and are deemed to be reported to and received by the House.

Accordingly, the Estimates (2020-2021) of the following ministries were deemed to be passed by the Standing Committee on Estimates and were deemed to be reported to and received by the House:-

MINISTRY OF HERITAGE, SPORT, TOURISM AND CULTURE INDUSTRIES

3801

Ministry Administration

$

24,661,400

3803

Sport, Recreation and Community

61,137,300

3804

Tourism and Culture Capital

101,677,800

3805

Heritage, Tourism and Culture

94,835,100

3806

Ontario Trillium Foundation

103,497,000

3808

Ontario Cultural Media Tax Credits

704,341,500

3811

Agency

279,544,500

MINISTRY OF HEALTH (Including Supplementaries)

1401

Ministry Administration

$

106,837,900

1402

Health Policy and Research

794,748,900

1403

Digital Health and Information Management

194,601,200

1405

Ontario Health Insurance

22,189,671,900

1406

Population and Public Health

7,686,543,800

1412

Provincial Programs and Stewardship

2,191,590,200

1413

Information Systems

174,877,100

1416

Health Services and Programs

29,275,269,400

1407

Health Capital

1,306,070,100

MINISTRY OF INFRASTRUCTURE

4001

Ministry Administration

$

6,180,500

4003

Infrastructure Policy and Planning

721,326,800

MINISTRY OF ENERGY, NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT AND MINES

2201

Ministry Administration

$

25,669,800

2202

Northern Development

829,803,100

2203

Mines and Minerals

56,041,400

2205

Energy Development and Management

519,854,000

2206

Electricity Price Mitigation

5,602,561,800

MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING (Including Supplementaries)

1901

Ministry Administration

$

22,202,500

1902

Municipal Services and Building Regulation

1,033,134,100

1903

Local Government and Planning Policy

31,654,100

1904

Housing

1,326,005,900

MINISTRY OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JOB CREATION AND TRADE

901

Ministry Administration

$

23,448,200

902

Economic Development, Job Creation and Trade

605,389,600

MINISTRY FOR SENIORS AND ACCESSIBILITY (Including Supplementaries)

3501

Ministry Administration

$

4,213,800

3502

Seniors and Accessibility Policy

137,569,700

3503

Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities

16,054,400

Standing Committee on the Legislative Assembly:-

Comité permanent de l’Assemblée législative :-

Bill 214, An Act to amend the Time Act and various other Acts.

Projet de loi 214, Loi modifiant la Loi sur l’heure légale et diverses autres lois.

Reported without amendment.

Rapport est fait sans propositions d’amendement.

Report adopted.

Rapport adopté.

Ordered for Third Reading.

Ordonné pour la troisième lecture.

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

DÉPÔT DE PROJETS DE LOI

The following Bill was introduced, read the first time and referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills:-

Le projet de loi suivant est présenté, lu une première fois et renvoyé au Comité permanent des règlements et des projets de loi d’intérêt privé :-

Bill Pr36, An Act to revive Castleform Holdings Inc. Mr. Cho (Willowdale).

PETITIONS

PÉTITIONS

Film Classification Act and on-screen smoking (Sessional Paper No. P-10) Ms. Armstrong.

The Long-Term Care Homes Act (Sessional Paper No. P-13) Ms. Armstrong and Ms. Lindo.

Universal pharmacare (Sessional Paper No. P-14) Mr. Hassan.

Affordable housing (Sessional Paper No. P-32) Ms. Berns-McGown.

Auto insurance (Sessional Paper No. P-65) Mr. Hassan.

Autism (Sessional Paper No. P-87) Miss Taylor.

Changes to education funding (Sessional Paper No. P-123) Ms. Stiles.

Declaration of a climate emergency (Sessional Paper No. P-156) Mr. Hassan.

Cannabis retail store location (Sessional Paper No. P-287) Mr. Babikian.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Opposition Day

Jour de l’opposition

Ms. Lindo moved,

Mme Lindo propose,

Whereas disturbing incidents of hate and hate motivated violence have increased during the COVID pandemic and it is more important than ever that Ontario make a clear stand against intolerance and bigotry; and

Whereas the Ford Government has attempted to grant Canada Christian College as administered by its President Charles McVety accreditation as a university; and

Whereas in a detailed ruling the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council found that Charles McVety “Distorted Facts and Contained Abusive Comments” about 2SLGBTQIA+ people and has led hateful campaigns against that community; and

Whereas education leaders have stated that institutions that do not meet the anti-discriminatory and anti-hate speech principles outlined in the Ontario Human Rights Code should not get accreditation; and

Whereas Charles McVety has used the Canada Christian College as a staging ground for Islamophobic invective, urging followers to come to the campus to hear a “warning” about Islam’s plan for a “hostile takeover”; and

Whereas Charles McVety has said that Haitians practise “Satanism” and made a “deal with the devil” that he connected to the earthquake that killed 316,000 people; and

Whereas governments have an obligation to clearly and unequivocally oppose bigoted and hateful views;

Therefore, the Legislative Assembly calls on the Ford Government to condemn the extreme and hateful invective of Charles McVety and oppose any efforts to make Canada Christian College into an accredited university.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 29

Andrew

Armstrong

Berns-McGown

Blais

Collard

Fife

Fraser

Gates

Gélinas

Glover

Gretzky

Hassan

Kernaghan

Lindo

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Sattler

Schreiner

Shaw

Simard

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Stevens

Stiles

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

West

Wynne

Yarde

NAYS / CONTRE - 27

Barrett

Bouma

Coe

Downey

Dunlop

Ghamari

Harris

Ke

McDonell

McNaughton

Mitas

Nicholls

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Piccini

Romano

Sarkaria

Scott

Skelly

Smith (Peterborough–Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thompson

Tibollo

Wai

Yakabuski

Second Reading of Bill 229, An Act to implement Budget measures and to enact, amend and repeal various statutes.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 229, Loi visant à mettre en oeuvre les mesures budgétaires et à édicter, à modifier ou à abroger diverses lois.

Pursuant to the Order of the House passed earlier today,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée adopté plus tôt aujourd’hui,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 57

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Barrett

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Willowdale)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzetto

Downey

Dunlop

Elliott

Fullerton

Ghamari

Gill

Harris

Hogarth

Jones

Kanapathi

Ke

Khanjin

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

McNaughton

Mitas

Mulroney

Nicholls

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Parsa

Piccini

Rasheed

Roberts

Romano

Sabawy

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Scott

Skelly

Smith (Peterborough–Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Yakabuski

NAYS / CONTRE - 24

Andrew

Armstrong

Blais

Collard

Fraser

Gélinas

Glover

Hassan

Hunter

Lindo

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Sattler

Schreiner

Shaw

Simard

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Stevens

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

West

Wynne

Yarde

Pursuant to the Order of the House passed earlier today,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée adopté plus tôt aujourd’hui,

Referred to the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs.

Renvoyé au Comité permanent des finances et des affaires économiques.

Second Reading of Bill 213, An Act to reduce burdens on people and businesses by enacting, amending and repealing various Acts and revoking a regulation.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 213, Loi visant à alléger le fardeau administratif qui pèse sur la population et les entreprises en édictant, modifiant ou abrogeant diverses lois et en abrogeant un règlement.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Pursuant to Standing Order 7(e), the Government House Leader indicated that the evening meeting period was no longer required and therefore cancelled.

Conformément à l’article 7 e) du Règlement, le leader parlementaire du gouvernement a indiqué que la réunion en soirée n’était plus nécessaire et par conséquent était annulée.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Vote deferred on request of the Chief Government Whip.

Le vote est différé par requête du Whip en chef du gouvernement.

At 4:54 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 9(e), the Government House Leader indicated that no further business would be called and therefore the House adjourned.

À 16 h 54, conformément à l’article 9 e) du Règlement, le leader parlementaire du gouvernement a indiqué qu’aucune autre affaire ne serait à l’ordre du jour et par conséquent, l’Assemblée a ajourné ses travaux.

le président

Ted Arnott

Speaker

SESSIONAL PAPERS PRESENTED PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER 43

DOCUMENTS PARLEMENTAIRES DÉPOSÉS CONFORMÉMENT À L’ARTICLE 43 DU RÈGLEMENT

Certificate pursuant to Standing Order 111(f)(1) re intended appointments dated November 20, 2020 (No. 625) (Tabled November 20, 2020).

RESPONSES TO PETITIONS

RÉPONSES AUX PÉTITIONS

Film Classification Act and on-screen smoking (Sessional Paper No. P-10):

(Tabled September 29, 2020) Mme Gélinas.

Le bureau du Commissaire aux services en français et le financement de l’Université de l’Ontario français (Document parlementaire no P-75):

(Déposée le 29 septembre 2020) Mme Gélinas.

Food Day Ontario (Sessional Paper No. P-220):

(Tabled September 29, 2020) Mr. Pang.

Carding and street checks (Sessional Paper No. P-268):

(Tabled September 24, 2020) Ms. Andrew.

Parental involvement in children’s education (Sessional Paper No. P-269):

(Tabled September 30, 2020) Mr. Bouma.

(Tabled October 1, 2020) Miss Mitas.

(Tabled September 29, 2020) Mr. Pang.

(Tabled September 29, 2020) Ms. Park.

(Tabled September 29, 2020) Ms. Triantafilopoulos.

(Tabled September 29, 30, 2020) Mrs. Wai.