Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 14
Evening Meeting - Sessional Day 15
Mercredi
21 mai 2003
Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 14
Séance du soir - jour de session 15
4thSession,
37th Parliament
4e session
37e législature
PRAYERS
1:30 P.M.
PRIÈRES
13 H 30
Mr. Tsubouchi delivered to the
Speaker a message from His Honour the Lieutenant Governor signed
by his own hand, and the said message was read by the Speaker and
is as follows:-
James K. Bartleman
The Lieutenant Governor
transmits Estimates of certain sums required for the services of
the Province for the year ending 31st March 2004 and
recommends them to the Legislative Assembly.
Le lieutenant-gouverneur
transmet les prévisions de certains montants
nécessaires pour assurer les services de la province pour
l'exercice se terminant le 31 mars 2004 et les recommande à
l'Assemblée législative.
Toronto, 21st May
2003
Toronto, le 21 mai
2003
(Sessional Paper No. 3,
Agriculture and Food; Attorney General; Cabinet Office;
Citizenship; Community, Family and Children's Services; Consumer
and Business Services; Culture; Education; Energy; Enterprise,
Opportunity and Innovation; Environment; Finance; Office of
Francophone Affairs; Health and Long-Term Care; Intergovernmental
Affairs; Labour; Office of the Lieutenant Governor; Management
Board Secretariat; Municipal Affairs and Housing; Ontario Native
Affairs Secretariat; Natural Resources; Northern Development and
Mines; Office of the Premier; Public Safety and Security; Tourism
and Recreation; Training, Colleges and Universities;
Transportation).
(Document parlementaire
no 3, Agriculture et Alimentation; Procureur
général; Bureau du Conseil des ministres; Affaires
civiques; Services à la collectivité, à la famille
et à l'enfance; Services aux consommateurs et aux
enterprises; Culture; Éducation; Énergie; Enterprise,
Débouchés et Innovation; Environnement; Finances;
Offices des affaires francophones; Santé et Soins de longue
durée; Affaires intergouvernementales; Travail; Bureau du
Lieutenant-gouverneur; Secrétariat du Conseil de gestion;
Affaires municipales et Logement; Secrétariat des affaires
autochtones de l'Ontario; Richesses naturelles;
Développement du Nord et des Mines; Cabinet du Premier
ministre; Sûreté et Sécurité publique;
Tourisme et Loisirs; Formation, Collèges et
Universités; Transports).
Ordered, That the message of the
Lieutenant Governor together with the Estimates accompanying same
be deemed to be referred to the Standing Committee on Estimates
pursuant to Standing Order 58.
REPORTS BY
COMMITTEES
RAPPORTS DES
COMITÉS
The Speaker addressed the House
as follows:-
I beg to inform the House that
today the Clerk received the Report on intended appointments
dated May 21, 2003 of the Standing Committee on Government
Agencies. Pursuant to Standing Order 106(e), the Report is deemed
to be adopted by the House (Sessional Paper No. 21).
Mr. Spina from the Standing
Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs presented the
Committee's Report which was read as follows and
adopted:-
M. Spina du Comité
permanent des finances et des affaires économiques
présente le rapport du comité qui est lu comme suit et
adopté :-
Your Committee begs to report
the following Bill as amended:-
Votre comité propose qu'il
soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant avec
des amendements :-
Bill 2, An Act to amend the
Highway Traffic Act to restrict the conveyance of passengers for
compensation.
Projet de loi 2, Loi modifiant
le Code de la route pour restreindre le transport de passagers
moyennant rémunération.
Ordered for Third
Reading.
Ordonné pour la
troisième lecture.
Mr. Marchese from the Standing
Committee on Regulations and Private Bills presented the
Committee's Report which was read as follows and
adopted:-
Your Committee begs to report
the following Bill without amendment:-
Bill Pr14, An Act respecting
Redeemer University College.
INTRODUCTION OF
BILLS
DÉPÔT DES PROJETS
DE LOI
On motion by Mr. Eves, Bill 28,
An Act to resolve a labour dispute between The Ontario English
Catholic Teachers' Association and the Toronto Catholic District
School Board and to amend the Education Act and the Provincial
Schools Negotiations Act, was introduced and read the first time
on the following division:-
Sur la motion de M. Eves, le
projet de loi 28, Loi visant à régler le conflit de
travail opposant l'Association des enseignantes et des
enseignants catholiques anglo-ontariens et le conseil scolaire de
district appelé Toronto Catholic District School Board et
modifiant la Loi sur l'éducation et la Loi sur la
négociation collective dans les écoles provinciales,
est présenté et lu une première fois à la
suite du vote suivant :-
AYES / POUR -
52
Arnott
Baird
Barrett
Beaubien
Chudleigh
Clark
Clement
Coburn
Cunningham
DeFaria
Dunlop
Ecker
Elliott
Eves
Flaherty
Galt
Gill
Guzzo
Hardeman
Hastings
Hudak
Jackson
Johns
Johnson
Kells
Klees
Marland
Martiniuk
Mazzilli
McDonald
Miller
Molinari
Munro
Murdoch
Mushinski
Newman
O'Toole
Ouellette
Runciman
Sampson
Spina
Sterling
Stewart
Stockwell
Tascona
Tsubouchi
Turnbull
Wettlaufer
Wilson
Witmer
Wood
Young
NAYS / CONTRE -
42
Agostino
Bartolucci
Bisson
Bountrogianni
Boyer
Bradley
Brown
Bryant
Caplan
Churley
Cleary
Colle
Conway
Crozier
Curling
Di Cocco
Dombrowsky
Duncan
Gerretsen
Gravelle
Hampton
Hoy
Kennedy
Kormos
Kwinter
Lalonde
Levac
Marchese
Martel
Martin
McGuinty
McLeod
McMeekin
Parsons
Patten
Phillips
Prue
Pupatello
Ramsay
Ruprecht
Sergio
Smitherman
The following Bills were
introduced and read the first time:-
Les projets de loi suivants sont
présentés et lus une première fois:-
Bill 29, An Act to amend the
Public Inquiries Act. Mr. Wood.
Projet de loi 29, Loi modifiant
la Loi sur les enquêtes publiques. M. Wood.
Bill 30, An Act to protect
adults from abuse and neglect. Mr. Bartolucci.
Projet de loi 30, Loi visant
à protéger les adultes contre la maltraitance et la
négligence. M. Bartolucci.
Bill 31, An Act to ensure the
preservation of the site of Toronto's first parliament buildings.
Mr. Marchese.
Projet de loi 31, Loi visant
à assurer la préservation du site des premiers
édifices parlementaires de Toronto. M. Marchese.
Bill 32, An Act to amend the
Ontario Water Resources Act. Mrs. Marland.
Projet de loi 32, Loi modifiant
la Loi sur les ressources en eau de l' Ontario. Mme
Marland.
Bill 33, An Act respecting the
price of motor vehicle fuel and the appointment of a Gas Price
Watchdog. Mr. Gravelle.
Projet de loi 33, Loi concernant
le prix du carburant pour véhicules automobiles et la
nomination d'un agent de surveillance des prix du carburant. M.
Gravelle.
Bill 34, An Act to amend the
Representation Act, 1996. Mr. Arnott.
Projet de loi 34, Loi modifiant
la Loi de 1996 sur la représentation électorale. M.
Arnott.
Bill 35, An Act to amend the
Ontario Water Resources Act with respect to water source
protection. Mrs. Dombrowsky.
Projet de loi 35, Loi modifiant
la Loi sur les ressources en eau de l'Ontario en ce qui concerne
la protection des sources d'alimentation en eau. Mme
Dombrowsky.
Bill 36, An Act to protect
sources of drinking water in Ontario. Ms. Churley.
Projet de loi 36, Loi visant
à protéger les sources d'eau potable en Ontario.
Mme Churley.
Bill 37, An Act to establish the
Ontario Workers' Memorial. Mr. Agostino.
Projet de loi 37, Loi visant
à ériger le monument commémoratif en hommage aux
travailleurs de l'Ontario. M. Agostino.
Bill 38, An Act to amend the
Child and family Services Act to allow one Children's Aid Society
access to information held by another Children's Aid Society. Mr.
Bartolucci.
Projet de loi 38, Loi modifiant
la Loi sur les services à l'enfance et à la famille
afin de permettre à une société d'aide à
l'enfance d'avoir accès aux renseignements détenus par
une autre société d'aide à l'enfance. M.
Bartolucci.
Bill 39, An Act to restrict the
operation of large hog farms and to amend the Nutrient Management
Act, 2002. Ms. Churley.
Projet de loi 39, Loi visant
à restreindre l'exploitation des grosses fermes porcines et
à modifier la Loi de 2002 sur la gestion des
éléments nutritifs. Mme Churley.
Bill 40, An Act respecting
warranties offered by manufacturers of motor vehicles. Mr.
Sampson.
Projet de loi 40, Loi concernant
les garanties offertes par les fabricants des véhicules
automobiles. M. Sampson.
The following Bills were
introduced, read the first time and referred to the Standing
Committee on Regulations and Private Bills:-
Les projets de loi suivants sont
présentés, lus une première fois et
déférés au Comité permanent des
règlements et des projets de loi d'intérêt
privé :-
Bill Pr12, An Act respecting the
Municipality of Chatham-Kent. Mr. Beaubien.
Bill Pr21, An Act respecting
Tyndale College & Seminary (formerly Ontario Bible College
and Ontario Theological Seminary). Mr. Dunlop.
Pursuant to Standing Order 33(f)
the Speaker interrupted "Introduction of Bills" and called
"Motions".
Conformément à
l'article 33(f) du Règlement, le Président interrompe
la periode «Dépôt des projets de loi» et
passe à «Motions».
MOTIONS
MOTIONS
With unanimous consent, on
motion by Mr. Stockwell,
Avec le consentement unanime,
sur la motion de M. Stockwell,
Ordered, That notwithstanding
Standing Order 96(g) notice for ballot items 7, 8, 9 and 10 be
waived.
With unanimous consent, on
motion by Mr. Stockwell,
Avec le consentement unanime,
sur la motion de M. Stockwell,
Ordered, That notwithstanding
Order 96(d), the following changes be made to the ballot list for
private members' public business:
Mr. Guzzo and Mr. Beaubien
exchange places in order of precedence, such that Mr. Guzzo
assumes ballot item 10, and Mr. Beaubien assumes ballot item
number 7; and that
Mr. Beaubien and Mr. Wood
exchange places in order of precedence, such that Mr. Beaubien
assumes ballot item 15, and Mr. Wood assumes ballot item
7.
Mr. Stockwell moved,
M. Stockwell propose,
That pursuant to Standing Order
9(c)(i), the House shall meet from 6:45 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on
Wednesday, May 21, 2003, for the purpose of considering
government business.
The question being put on the
motion, it was carried on the following division:-
La motion, mise aux voix, est
adoptée par le vote suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
83
Agostino
Arnott
Baird
Bartolucci
Beaubien
Bountrogianni
Boyer
Bradley
Brown
Bryant
Caplan
Chudleigh
Clark
Cleary
Clement
Coburn
Colle
Conway
Crozier
Cunningham
Curling
DeFaria
Di Cocco
Dombrowsky
Duncan
Dunlop
Ecker
Elliott
Eves
Flaherty
Galt
Gerretsen
Gill
Gravelle
Guzzo
Hardeman
Hastings
Hoy
Hudak
Jackson
Johns
Johnson
Kells
Kennedy
Klees
Kwinter
Lalonde
Levac
Marland
Martiniuk
Mazzilli
McDonald
McLeod
McMeekin
Miller
Molinari
Munro
Murdoch
Mushinski
Newman
O'Toole
Ouellette
Parsons
Patten
Phillips
Pupatello
Runciman
Ruprecht
Sampson
Sergio
Smitherman
Spina
Sterling
Stewart
Stockwell
Tascona
Tsubouchi
Turnbull
Wettlaufer
Wilson
Witmer
Wood
Young
NAYS / CONTRE -
7
Bisson
Hampton
Kormos
Marchese
Martel
Martin
Prue
DEFERRED VOTES
VOTES
DIFFÉRÉS
The deferred vote on the motion
by Mr. Conway arising from the Speaker's ruling of May 8, 2003,
as follows:
"That this House declares that
it is the undoubted right of the Legislative Assembly, in
Parliament assembled, to be the first recipient of the Budget of
Ontario",
was lost on the following
division:-
AYES / POUR -
42
Agostino
Bartolucci
Bisson
Bountrogianni
Boyer
Bradley
Brown
Bryant
Caplan
Churley
Cleary
Colle
Conway
Crozier
Curling
Di Cocco
Dombrowsky
Duncan
Gerretsen
Gravelle
Hampton
Hoy
Kennedy
Kormos
Kwinter
Lalonde
Levac
Marchese
Martel
Martin
McGuinty
McLeod
McMeekin
Parsons
Patten
Phillips
Prue
Pupatello
Ruprecht
Sergio
Smitherman
Sorbara
NAYS / CONTRE -
53
Arnott
Baird
Barrett
Beaubien
Chudleigh
Clark
Clement
Coburn
Cunningham
DeFaria
Dunlop
Ecker
Elliott
Eves
Flaherty
Galt
Gilchrist
Gill
Guzzo
Hardeman
Hastings
Hudak
Jackson
Johns
Johnson
Kells
Klees
Marland
Martiniuk
Mazzilli
McDonald
Miller
Molinari
Munro
Murdoch
Mushinski
Newman
O'Toole
Ouellette
Runciman
Sampson
Spina
Sterling
Stewart
Stockwell
Tascona
Tsubouchi
Turnbull
Wettlaufer
Wilson
Witmer
Wood
Young
At 4:00 p.m., pursuant to
Standing Order 30(b), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings and
called Orders of the Day.
À 16 heures,
conformément à l'article 30(b) du Règlement, le
Président interrompt les délibérations et passe
à l'ordre du jour.
ORDERS OF THE
DAY
ORDRE DU JOUR
Debate was resumed on the
Amendment to the Amendment to the Motion for an Address in Reply
to the Speech of His Honour the Lieutenant Governor at the
Opening of the Session.
Le débat reprend sur le
sous-amendement à la motion portant l'Adresse en
réponse au discours prononcé par Son Honneur le
lieutenant-gouverneur à l'ouverture de la
session.
After some time, the amendment
to the amendment to the motion was put as follows:-
Après quelque temps, le
sous-amendement à la motion est mix aux voix comme
suit:-
That the amendment to the motion
be amended by striking out all the words after, "Whereas
Ontarians" and substitute the following:-
"have felt the impact of bad
Conservative privatization policies where it hurts - in the
pocketbook;
Whereas the Conservatives ignore
evidence from around the world that privatization of public
necessities - such as water, hydro, health, education - doesn't
work and costs more;
Whereas Ontarians are looking
for practical solutions that would:
· Stop hydro privatization
and deregulation and ensure clean, reliable public power at
cost.
· Extend public home care,
create 100 new Community Health Centres and cut long-term care
user fees. Cancel plans for private MRI/CT clinics and privately
built hospitals and put funds back into public health
care.
· Keep our drinking water
public and protect water from source to tap.
· Ensure every student has
the opportunity to excel, guaranteed by a dedicated Education
Excellence Fund that takes the politics out of education funding.
No public funds for private schools.
· Immediately increase the
minimum wage to $8 an hour, prohibit scabs and treat injured
workers fairly.
· Freeze rents for two
years, build at least 32,000 units of affordable housing and
increase shelter allowances.
· Cut tuition by 10 per
cent and ensure that no student is denied a quality education or
training for financial reasons.
· Lower transit fares,
shorten waits and reduce gridlock with a dedicated transportation
trust fund.
· Reduce child care fees to
$10 a day for 18 month to 5 year olds in non-profit, regulated
child care, and create 20,000 new child care spaces.
· Protect your pension from
inflation and let you take it with you from job to
job.
Therefore this House endorses an
agenda of public power."
The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Johnson)
declared his opinion that the Nays had it, and a recorded vote
having been demanded,
Le vice-président, M.
Johnson déclare qu'à son avis les voix opposées
l'emportent et un vote par appel nominal a été
demandé.
The Deputy Speaker directed that
the Members be called in, for which purpose the division bells
were rung.
Le vice-président donne des
directives pour convoquer les députés et la sonnerie
d'appel se fait entendre.
During the ringing of the bells,
the Deputy Speaker addressed the House as follows:-
Pendant la sonnerie d'appel, le
vice-président s'adresse à l'Assemblée en ces
mots:-
I have received a request from
the Chief Government Whip, under Standing Order 28(h), that the
vote be deferred until Thursday, May 22, 2003.
J'ai reçu une requête
du Whip en chef du gouvernement, conformément à
l'article 28(h) du Règlement, que le vote soit
différé jusqu'au jeudi 22 mai 2003.
Therefore the vote is
accordingly deferred.
En conséquence, le vote est
différé.
The House then adjourned at 6:00
p.m.
À 18 h, la chambre a
ensuite ajourné ses travaux.
6:45 P.M.
18 H 45
ORDERS OF THE
DAY
ORDRE DU JOUR
Mrs. Ecker moved, seconded by
Mr. Eves, That this House approves in general the Budgetary
Policy of the Government.
A debate arose and,
Il s'élève un
débat et,
After some time, pursuant to
Standing Order 9(a), the motion for adjournment of the debate was
deemed to have been made and carried.
Après quelque temps,
conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la
motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir
été proposée et adoptée.
The House then adjourned at 9:30
p.m.
À 21 h 30, la chambre a
ensuite ajourné ses travaux.
le président
GARY CARR
Speaker
SESSIONAL PAPERS PRESENTED
PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER 39(A):-
DOCUMENTS PARLEMENTAIRES
DÉPOSÉS CONFORMÉMENT À L'ARTICLE 39(A) DU
RÈGLEMENT
Compendia:
Bill 28, An Act to resolve a
labour dispute between The Ontario English Catholic Teachers'
Association and the Toronto Catholic District School Board and to
amend the Education Act and the Provincial Schools Negotiations
Act (No. 22).
