37th Parliament, 1st Session

No. 62

No 62

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée législative
de l'Ontario

Monday
May 29, 2000


Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 92
Evening Meeting - Sessional Day 93

Lundi
29 mai 2000


Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 92
Séance du soir - jour de session 93

1st Session,
37th Parliament

1re session
37e législature

Prayers
1:30 P.M.

Prières
13 H 30

With unanimous consent, the following was agreed to,

Ordered, That pursuant to Standing Order 9(c)(i), the House shall sit this evening from 6:45 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. and that the motion of the member from Renfrew-Nipissing-Pembroke be deferred until Orders of the Day this evening;

That the House now proceed immediately to Routine Motions, followed by Oral Questions;

That after Oral Questions the House immediately move to Orders of the Day for an emergency debate on the tragedy of the events at Walkerton, and specifically to consider the following motion:

This House expresses sincere regret and concern over the tragic events faced by the residents, families and friends of the citizens of Walkerton;

That this House sends its condolences to those who have lost loved ones and its prayers for those who continue to struggle with the ravages of this tragedy;

That, out of respect for the victims of this tragedy and as a sign that the entire Province joins with the people of Walkerton in mourning, staff of the Legislative Assembly be directed to fly flags at half-mast for the remainder of the week;

That this House pledge, as Premier Harris has, to do whatever it takes to get to the bottom of this tragedy, and, to that end,

That the Standing Committee on General Government be directed to review the circumstances leading to the tragedy in Walkerton, and to report its findings and recommendations back to this House;

That for purposes of its review of this matter, the committee is authorized to travel from place to place in Ontario and to meet and receive evidence from witnesses when the House is not in session;

That the committee commence its review by considering, as they become available, the results and any recommendations that emerge from the Ontario Provincial Police investigation, the pending Coroner's inquest, and the investigation by the Ministry of the Environment;

That if legal proceedings arise from these investigations, the committee suspend its review of any specific issues that are the subject of those proceedings, but may continue to review and recommend government action to ensure the reliability and safety of Ontario's water supply.

That at 5:50 p.m. this afternoon the Speaker will put all questions necessary to decide on the emergency debate motion; and

That any division bells on that motion shall be limited to 5 minutes.

The House then immediately proceeded to "Motions."

Motions

Motions

On motion by Mr. Sterling,

Sur la motion de M. Sterling,

Ordered, That, pursuant to Standing Order 9(c)(i), the House shall meet from 6:45 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on Monday, May 29, Tuesday, May 30, and Wednesday, May 31, 2000 for the purpose of considering government business.

Orders of the Day

Ordre du Jour

Mr. Newman moved,

M. Newman propose,

That, This House expresses sincere regret and concern over the tragic events faced by the residents, families and friends of the citizens of Walkerton;

That this House sends its condolences to those who have lost loved ones and its prayers for those who continue to struggle with the ravages of this tragedy;

That, out of respect for the victims of this tragedy and as a sign that the entire Province joins with the people of Walkerton in mourning, staff of the Legislative Assembly be directed to fly flags at half-mast for the remainder of the week;

That this House pledge, as Premier Harris has, to do whatever it takes to get to the bottom of this tragedy, and, to that end,

That the Standing Committee on General Government be directed to review the circumstances leading to the tragedy in Walkerton, and to report its findings and recommendations back to this House;

That for purposes of its review of this matter, the committee is authorized to travel from place to place in Ontario and to meet and receive evidence from witnesses when the House is not in session;

That the committee commence its review by considering, as they become available, the results and any recommendations that emerge from the Ontario Provincial Police investigation, the pending Coroner's inquest, and the investigation by the Ministry of the Environment;

That if legal proceedings arise from these investigations, the committee suspend its review of any specific issues that are the subject of those proceedings, but may continue to review and recommend government action to ensure the reliability and safety of Ontario's water supply.

A debate arose and, after some time,

Il s'élève un débat et après quelque temps,

Mr. McGuinty moved,

M. McGuinty propose,

That, Mr. Newman's motion be amended by deleting that portion of the motion beginning with "That the Standing Committee on General Government...." and ending with "Ontario's water supply."

And substituting the following:

"That the Government, under the Public Inquiries Act, appoint a public inquiry into Ontario's Water Supply to consider and report on the safety of the Province's drinking water, in particular: To examine legislation and regulations governing the provision of, standards for and testing of drinking water in the province;

To examine the adequacy of the inspection and monitoring programs for all provincial water systems, and the role of the Province in guaranteeing adequate testing, including funding and staffing considerations;

To examine any other matters that the commission considers relevant to the above terms of reference to ensure that the tragedy of Walkerton does not ever happen again anywhere in this Province;

That the three House Leaders are consulted and must approve the Government's appointee(s) to the Commission, any changes or additions to the above terms of reference for the Commission and the reporting date for the Commission's interim and final reports. "

A debate arose and, after some time,

Il s'élève un débat et après quelque temps,

Mr. Hampton moved,

M. Hampton propose,

That, the amendment to the motion be amended by adding the words: "to examine the impact of Government cutbacks and policy decisions and the expansion of intensive farming " following the words "staffing considerations" in the third paragraph and by adding the words: "and to ensure that all Ontarians can have confidence in the safety of their drinking water" following the words "anywhere in this Province" in the fourth paragraph.

At 5:50 p.m., pursuant to the Order of the House dated earlier today, the Acting Speaker (Mr. Brown) interrupted the proceedings and put the question.

The amendment to the amendment to the motion as follows:-

That, the amendment to the motion be amended by adding the words: "to examine the impact of Government cutbacks and policy decisions and the expansion of intensive farming " following the words "staffing considerations" in the third paragraph and by adding the words: "and to ensure that all Ontarians can have confidence in the safety of their drinking water" following the words "anywhere in this Province" in the fourth paragraph.

having been put, was lost on the following division:-

AYES / POUR - 33

Agostino

Curling

Lankin

Bartolucci

Di Cocco

Marchese

Boyer

Dombrowsky

Martel

Bryant

Duncan

McLeod

Caplan

Gerretsen

Parsons

Christopherson

Gravelle

Patten

Churley

Hampton

Peters

Cleary

Hoy

Ramsay

Colle

Kennedy

Ruprecht

Conway

Kormos

Sergio

Cordiano

Kwinter

Smitherman

NAYS / CONTRE - 48

Arnott

Harris

O'Toole

Baird

Hastings

Ouellette

Barrett

Hodgson

Runciman

Beaubien

Hudak

Sampson

Chudleigh

Jackson

Snobelen

Clark

Kells

Spina

Coburn

Klees

Sterling

Cunningham

Marland

Stewart

DeFaria

Martiniuk

Stockwell

Dunlop

Maves

Tascona

Ecker

Mazzilli

Tilson

Elliott

Molinari

Tsubouchi

Galt

Munro

Turnbull

Gilchrist

Murdoch

Wilson

Gill

Mushinski

Wood

Hardeman

Newman

Young

The amendment to the motion as follows:-

That, Mr. Newman's motion be amended by deleting that portion of the motion beginning with "That the Standing Committee on General Government...." and ending with "Ontario's water supply."

And substituting the following:

"That the Government, under the Public Inquiries Act, appoint a public inquiry into Ontario's Water Supply to consider and report on the safety of the Province's drinking water, in particular: To examine legislation and regulations governing the provision of, standards for and testing of drinking water in the province;

To examine the adequacy of the inspection and monitoring programs for all provincial water systems, and the role of the Province in guaranteeing adequate testing, including funding and staffing considerations;

To examine any other matters that the commission considers relevant to the above terms of reference to ensure that the tragedy of Walkerton does not ever happen again anywhere in this Province;

That the three House Leaders are consulted and must approve the Government's appointee(s) to the Commission, any changes or additions to the above terms of reference for the Commission and the reporting date for the Commission's interim and final reports. "

having been put, was lost on the following division:-

AYES / POUR - 33

Agostino

Curling

Lankin

Bartolucci

Di Cocco

Marchese

Boyer

Dombrowsky

Martel

Bryant

Duncan

McLeod

Caplan

Gerretsen

Parsons

Christopherson

Gravelle

Patten

Churley

Hampton

Peters

Cleary

Hoy

Ramsay

Colle

Kennedy

Ruprecht

Conway

Kormos

Sergio

Cordiano

Kwinter

Smitherman

NAYS / CONTRE - 48

Arnott

Harris

O'Toole

Baird

Hastings

Ouellette

Barrett

Hodgson

Runciman

Beaubien

Hudak

Sampson

Chudleigh

Jackson

Snobelen

Clark

Kells

Spina

Coburn

Klees

Sterling

Cunningham

Marland

Stewart

DeFaria

Martiniuk

Stockwell

Dunlop

Maves

Tascona

Ecker

Mazzilli

Tilson

Elliott

Molinari

Tsubouchi

Galt

Munro

Turnbull

NAYS

Gilchrist

Murdoch

Wilson

Gill

Mushinski

Wood

Hardeman

Newman

Young

The Main motion having then been put was carried on the following division:-

AYES / POUR - 48

Arnott

Harris

O'Toole

Baird

Hastings

Ouellette

Barrett

Hodgson

Runciman

Beaubien

Hudak

Sampson

Chudleigh

Jackson

Snobelen

Clark

Kells

Spina

Coburn

Klees

Sterling

Cunningham

Marland

Stewart

DeFaria

Martiniuk

Stockwell

Dunlop

Maves

Tascona

Ecker

Mazzilli

Tilson

Elliott

Molinari

Tsubouchi

Galt

Munro

Turnbull

Gilchrist

Murdoch

Wilson

Gill

Mushinski

Wood

Hardeman

Newman

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 33

Agostino

Curling

Lankin

Bartolucci

Di Cocco

Marchese

Boyer

Dombrowsky

Martel

Bryant

Duncan

McLeod

Caplan

Gerretsen

Parsons

Christopherson

Gravelle

Patten

Churley

Hampton

Peters

Cleary

Hoy

Ramsay

Colle

Kennedy

Ruprecht

Conway

Kormos

Sergio

Cordiano

Kwinter

Smitherman

The House then adjourned at 6:15 p.m.

À 18 h 15, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

6:45 P.M.

18 H 45

Orders of the Day

Ordre du Jour

Debate was resumed on the motion adjourned on May 18, 2000 by Mr. Conway arising from the Speaker's ruling of May 18, 2000.

After some time, the question having been put, the Acting Speaker (Mr. Brown) declared his opinion that the Nays had it, and a recorded vote having been demanded,

Après quelque temps, la motion mise aux voix, le président par intérim, M. Brown déclare qu'à son avis les voix opposées l'emportent et un vote inscrit a été exigé.

The Speaker directed that the Members be called in, for which purpose the division bells were rung.

Le Président donne des directives pour convoquer les députés et la sonnerie d'appel est retentit à cette fin.

During the ringing of the bells, the Speaker addressed the House as follows:-

Pendant la sonnerie d'appel, le Président s'adresse à l'Assemblée en ces mots:-

I have received a request from the Chief Whip of the Liberal Party, under Standing Order 28(h), that the vote on Order Number 1 be deferred until May 30, 2000.

J'ai reçu une requête du Whip en chef du Parti Libéral, conformément à l'article 28(h) du Règlement, que le vote sur l'avis de l'ordre numéro 1 émanant du gouvernement soit différé jusqu'au 30 mai 2000.

Mr. Klees moved, That the House do now adjourn.

M. Klees propose que l'Assemblée ajourne les débats maintenant.

The question, having been put on the motion, was declared carried.

Cette motion, mise aux voix, est déclarée adoptée.

The House then adjourned at 8:30 p.m.

À 20 h 30, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

le président

GARY CARR

Speaker

Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 39(A):-

Documents Parlementaires Déposés Conformément à l'Article 39(A) du Règlement

Part-time appointments re intended Order-in-Council dated May 17, 2000 (No. 117) (Tabled May 19, 2000).

Responses to Petitions

Réponses aux Pétitions

Petition relating to the Northern Health Travel Grant program (Sessional Paper No. P-1):

(Tabled April 4, 2000) Mr. Gravelle and Mrs. McLeod.

(Tabled April 11, 2000) Mr. Gravelle and Mrs. McLeod.

(Tabled April 12, 2000) Mrs. McLeod.

(Tabled April 17, 2000) Mr. Gravelle.

(Tabled April 18, 2000) Mr. Brown and Mrs. McLeod.

(Tabled April 19, 2000) Mrs. McLeod.

(Tabled April 25, 2000) Mr. Brown.

(Tabled April 26, 2000) Mrs. McLeod.

(Tabled April 27, 2000) Mr. Bradley, Mr. Duncan, and Mrs. McLeod.

(Tabled May 2, 2000) Mr. Brown.

(Tabled May 1, 2000) Mr. Gravelle.

(Tabled May 3, 2000) Mr. Gerretsen and Mrs. McLeod.

(Tabled May 9, 2000) Mr. Bartolucci and Mrs. McLeod.

(Tabled May 8, 2000) Mr. Bartolucci, Mr. Brown, Mr. Gravelle, and Mrs. McLeod.

(Tabled May 10, 2000) Mr. Brown and Mr. Gravelle.

(Tabled May 16, 2000) Mr. Brown.

(Tabled May 17, 2000) Mrs. McLeod.

Petition relating to Ceasing the funding of abortions (Sessional Paper No. P-14):

(Tabled April 4, 2000) Mr. Tilson.

(Tabled April 17, 2000) Mr. Stewart.

(Tabled April 18, 2000) Mr. Arnott.

(Tabled April 19, 2000) Mr. Conway.

(Tabled April 25, 2000) Mr. Martiniuk.

Petition relating to the Link between cancer and occupation (Sessional Paper No. P-32):

(Tabled April 4, 10, 13, 17, 19; May 1, 3, 4, 2000) Mr. Christopherson.

Petition relating to Removing the cap on billing for ophthamologists in Niagara (Sessional Paper No. P-35):

(Tabled April 11, 2000) Mr. Bradley.

Petition relating to the Abolishment of the maximum rent provision under the Tenant Protection Act (Sessional Paper No. P-41):

(Tabled April 6, 2000) Mr. Sergio.

Petition relating to Lowering provincial taxes on petroleum products / Pétition concernant les taxes provinciales sur le prix des produits pétroliers (Sessional Paper No. P-61):

(Tabled April 3, 10, and 11, 2000) Mr. Lalonde.

Petition relating to Access through Ontario Drug Benefit Plan to scientifically proven drug therapies. (Sessional Paper No. P-62):

(Tabled April 4, 2000) Mr. Bartolucci.

Petition relating to Morgentaler abortuary (Sessional Paper No. P-64):

(Tabled April 4, 5, 10, 11, 19, 25; May 1, 2000) Mr. O'Toole.

Petition relating to Reconsidering the encouragement of mandatory influenza shots (Sessional Paper No. P-66):

(Tabled April 5, 2000) Mr. Hoy.

Petition relating to Protecting minors from exposure to sexually explicit material (Sessional Paper No. P-70):

(Tabled April 10, 2000) Mr. O'Toole.

(Tabled April 11, 2000) Mr. Galt and Mr. O'Toole.

Petition relating to Request for public hearings on health care legislation in Prince Edward-Hastings (Sessional Paper No. P-74):

(Tabled April 10, 2000) Mr. Parsons.

Petition relating to Fuel prices (Sessional Paper No. P-75)

(Tabled April 10, 12, 2000) Mr. Bartolucci.

Petition relating to Restoring funding to keep open local agriculture offices (Sessional Paper No. P-79):

(Tabled April 12, 2000) Mr. Parsons.

Petition relating to Phasing out landscape/cosmetic use of synthetic chemical pesticides. (Sessional Paper No. 80):

(Tabled April 12, 2000) Ms. Churley.

Petition relating to Matrimonial home (Sessional Paper No. 81):

(Tabled April 13, 2000) Mr. Dunlop.

Petition relating to Allowing charitable organizations to conduct fundraising campaigns on roadways, sidewalks and parking lots (Sessional Paper No. P-83):

(Tabled April 17 and May 1, 2000) Mr. Crozier.

Petition relating to Holding public hearings on Bills 23 and 173 (Sessional Paper No. P-85):

(Tabled April 17; May 9, 2000) Mr. Parsons.