Legislative

Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée

législative
de l’Ontario

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

No. 56

No 56

1st Session
42nd Parliament

1re session
42e législature

Wednesday
November 28, 2018

Mercredi

28 novembre 2018

9:00 A.M.

9 H

PRAYERS

PRIÈRES

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Third Reading of Bill 32, An Act to amend the Ontario Energy Board Act, 1998.

Troisième lecture du projet de loi 32, Loi modifiant la Loi de 1998 sur la Commission de l’énergie de l’Ontario.

Debate resumed and after some time the House recessed at 10:15 a.m.

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps, à 10 h 15, la Chambre a suspendu la séance.

10:30 A.M.

10 H 30

ORAL QUESTIONS

QUESTIONS ORALES

DEFERRED VOTES

VOTES DIFFÉRÉS

Amendment to motion for allocation of time on Bill 57, An Act to enact, amend and repeal various statutes.

Ms. Thompson moved,

Mme Thompson propose,

That, Government Notice of Motion Number 20 be amended by striking out “57” in the first line and replacing it with “47”.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 63

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Cho (Willowdale)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Downey

Dunlop

Fee

Fullerton

Ghamari

Hardeman

Harris

Hillier

Hogarth

Jones

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Ke

Khanjin

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

Miller (Parry Sound–Muskoka)

Mulroney

Nicholls

Pang

Park

Parsa

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Romano

Sabawy

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Scott

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Yakabuski

Yurek

NAYS / CONTRE - 43

Andrew

Armstrong

Arthur

Begum

Berns-McGown

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

French

Gates

Gélinas

Glover

Gravelle

Gretzky

Harden

Hassan

Kernaghan

Lalonde

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Miller (Hamilton East—Stoney Creek)

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Schreiner

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Singh (Brampton East)

Stiles

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

NAYS / CONTRE - Continued

Des Rosiers

Fife

Fraser

Hatfield

Hunter

Karpoche

Natyshak

Rakocevic

Sattler

West

Wynne

Motion, as amended, for allocation of time on Bill 57, An Act to enact, amend and repeal various statutes.

Mr. Yakabuski moved,

M. Yakabuski propose,

That, pursuant to Standing Order 47 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 57, An Act to enact, amend and repeal various statutes, when the Bill is next called as a Government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Second Reading stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, the vote on Second Reading may not be deferred pursuant to Standing Orders 9(c) or 28(h); and

That, at such time the Bill shall be ordered referred to the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs; and

That the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs be authorized to meet on Monday, December 3, 2018 from 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. for public hearings on the Bill; and

That the Clerk of the Committee, in consultation with the Committee Chair, be authorized to arrange the following with regard to Bill 57:

• That the deadline for requests to appear be 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 28, 2018; and

• That, the Clerk of the Committee provide a list of all interested presenters to each member of the Sub-committee or their designate following the deadline for requests to appear by 7:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 28, 2018; and

• That, each member of the Sub-committee or their designate provide the Clerk of the Committee with a prioritized list of presenters to be scheduled, chosen from the list of all interested presenters received by the Clerk, by 12:00 p.m. on Thursday, November 29, 2018; and

• That each witness will receive up to five minutes for their presentation followed by ten minutes for questions divided equally amongst the recognized parties; and

That the deadline for filing written submissions be 6:00 p.m. on Monday, December 3, 2018; and

That the deadline for filing amendments to the Bill with the Clerk of the Committee shall be 6:00 p.m. on Monday, December 3, 2018; and

That the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs shall be authorized to meet on Tuesday, December 4, 2018 from 2:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. and Wednesday, December 5, 2018 from 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. to 11:59 p.m. for clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill; and

That on Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 5:30 p.m., those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the Bill and any amendments thereto. At this time, the Chair shall allow one 20-minute waiting period pursuant to Standing Order 129(a); and

That the Committee shall report the Bill to the House no later than Thursday, December 6, 2018. In the event that the Committee fails to report the Bill on that day, the Bill shall be deemed to be passed by the Committee and shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House; and

That, upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, and at such time the Bill shall be ordered for Third Reading, which Order may be called that same day; and

That, notwithstanding Standing Order 81(c), the Bill may be called more than once in the same sessional day; and

That, when the Order for Third Reading of the Bill is called, one hour of debate shall be allotted to the Third Reading stage of the Bill with twenty-five minutes allotted to the Government; twenty-five minutes allotted to Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition; five minutes allotted to the Independent Liberal Members and five minutes allotted to the Independent Green Member; and

That at the end of this time, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, the vote on Third Reading may not be deferred pursuant to Standing Orders 9(c) or 28(h); and

That, in the case of any division relating to any proceedings on the Bill, the division bell shall be limited to 10 minutes.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 63

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Cho (Willowdale)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Downey

Dunlop

Fee

Fullerton

Ghamari

Hardeman

Harris

Hillier

Hogarth

Jones

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Ke

Khanjin

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

Miller (Parry Sound–Muskoka)

Mulroney

Nicholls

Pang

Park

Parsa

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Romano

Sabawy

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Scott

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Yakabuski

Yurek

NAYS / CONTRE - 43

Andrew

Armstrong

Arthur

Begum

Berns-McGown

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

Des Rosiers

Fife

Fraser

French

Gates

Gélinas

Glover

Gravelle

Gretzky

Harden

Hassan

Hatfield

Hunter

Karpoche

Kernaghan

Lalonde

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Miller (Hamilton East—Stoney Creek)

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Natyshak

Rakocevic

Sattler

Schreiner

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Singh (Brampton East)

Stiles

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

West

Wynne

Ordered, That, pursuant to Standing Order 47 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 57, An Act to enact, amend and repeal various statutes, when the Bill is next called as a Government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Second Reading stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, the vote on Second Reading may not be deferred pursuant to Standing Orders 9(c) or 28(h); and

That, at such time the Bill shall be ordered referred to the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs; and

That the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs be authorized to meet on Monday, December 3, 2018 from 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. for public hearings on the Bill; and

That the Clerk of the Committee, in consultation with the Committee Chair, be authorized to arrange the following with regard to Bill 57:

• That the deadline for requests to appear be 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 28, 2018; and

• That, the Clerk of the Committee provide a list of all interested presenters to each member of the Sub-committee or their designate following the deadline for requests to appear by 7:00 p.m. on Wednesday, November 28, 2018; and

• That, each member of the Sub-committee or their designate provide the Clerk of the Committee with a prioritized list of presenters to be scheduled, chosen from the list of all interested presenters received by the Clerk, by 12:00 p.m. on Thursday, November 29, 2018; and

• That each witness will receive up to five minutes for their presentation followed by ten minutes for questions divided equally amongst the recognized parties; and

That the deadline for filing written submissions be 6:00 p.m. on Monday, December 3, 2018; and

That the deadline for filing amendments to the Bill with the Clerk of the Committee shall be 6:00 p.m. on Monday, December 3, 2018; and

That the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs shall be authorized to meet on Tuesday, December 4, 2018 from 2:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. and Wednesday, December 5, 2018 from 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. to 11:59 p.m. for clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill; and

That on Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 5:30 p.m., those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the Bill and any amendments thereto. At this time, the Chair shall allow one 20-minute waiting period pursuant to Standing Order 129(a); and

That the Committee shall report the Bill to the House no later than Thursday, December 6, 2018. In the event that the Committee fails to report the Bill on that day, the Bill shall be deemed to be passed by the Committee and shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House; and

That, upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, and at such time the Bill shall be ordered for Third Reading, which Order may be called that same day; and

That, notwithstanding Standing Order 81(c), the Bill may be called more than once in the same sessional day; and

That, when the Order for Third Reading of the Bill is called, one hour of debate shall be allotted to the Third Reading stage of the Bill with twenty-five minutes allotted to the Government; twenty-five minutes allotted to Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition; five minutes allotted to the Independent Liberal Members and five minutes allotted to the Independent Green Member; and

That at the end of this time, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, the vote on Third Reading may not be deferred pursuant to Standing Orders 9(c) or 28(h); and

That, in the case of any division relating to any proceedings on the Bill, the division bell shall be limited to 10 minutes.

The House recessed at 12:06 p.m.

À 12 h 06, la Chambre a suspendu la séance.

1:00 P.M.

13 H

REPORTS BY COMMITTEES

RAPPORTS DES COMITÉS

Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills:-

Comité permanent des règlements et des projets de loi d’intérêt privé :-

Bill Pr3, An Act to revive Brownwood Holdings Limited.

Bill Pr4, An Act to revive 850148 Ontario Inc.

Reported without amendment.

Rapport est fait sans propositions d’amendement.

Report adopted.

Rapport adopté.

Ordered for Second Reading.

Ordonnés pour la deuxième lecture.

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI

The following Bill was introduced and read the first time:-

Le projet de loi suivant est présenté et lu une première fois :-

Bill 64, An Act to amend the Services and Supports to Promote the Social Inclusion of Persons with Developmental Disabilities Act, 2008 respecting transition to adult developmental services and supports. Mrs. Gretzky.

Projet de loi 64, Loi modifiant la Loi de 2008 sur les services et soutiens favorisant l’inclusion sociale des personnes ayant une déficience intellectuelle en ce qui concerne la transition vers des services et soutiens à l’intention des adultes ayant une telle déficience. Mme Gretzky.

MOTIONS

MOTIONS

Mr. Lecce moved,

M. Lecce propose,

That the following changes be made to membership of the following Committees:

On the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills, Mr. Coe and Mr. Calandra replace Mr. Barrett and Mr. Harris; and

On the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, Mr. Barrett replaces Mrs. Wai; and

On the Standing Committee on General Government, Mrs. Wai replaces Mr. Coe.

Carried.

Adoptée.

Mr. Lecce moved,

M. Lecce propose,

That the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs be authorized to meet for up to 14 days during the winter adjournment.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

Carried on division.

Adoptée au vote.

PETITIONS

PÉTITIONS

Transit fare integration (Sessional Paper No. P-16) Mrs. Martow.

Affordable housing (Sessional Paper No. P-32) Ms. Armstrong and Ms. Lindo.

Injured workers (Sessional Paper No. P-36) Ms. Hunter.

Martial arts tournaments (Sessional Paper No. P-60) Mr. Harden.

Auto insurance (Sessional Paper No. P-65) Mr. Hassan and Mr. Rakocevic.

Le bureau du Commissaire aux services en français et le financement de l’Université de l’Ontario français (Document parlementaire no P-75) Mme Gélinas.

College Task Force (Sessional Paper No. P-76) Mr. Glover.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Opposition Day

Jour de l’opposition

Ms. Horwath moved,

Mme Horwath propose,

Considérant que la communauté francophone de l’Ontario est la plus grande communauté francophone canadienne à l’extérieur du Québec,

Considérant que le français est l’une des deux langues officielles du Canada,

Considérant que dans la province de l’Ontario, le français est reconnu comme langue officielle dans les tribunaux, le système d’éducation et à l’Assemblée législative,

Considérant que chaque citoyen et chaque citoyenne de l’Ontario devraient avoir accès aux services gouvernementaux dont ils ont besoin, en français, quand ils en ont besoin et là où ils en ont besoin,

Considérant que le Commissaire aux services en français de l’Ontario s’assure que les droits des citoyens et citoyennes de l’Ontario, ainsi que les obligations du gouvernement et des agences gouvernementales, sont maintenus en accord avec la Loi sur les services en français,

Considérant que, pendant les 40 dernières années, les Ontariens et les Ontariennes ont cherché à fonder une université francophone indépendante, gouvernée par et pour des francophones et que la planification pour cette université est déjà bien avancée,

Considérant que l’énoncé économique d’automne du gouvernement a annoncé l’élimination du Commissariat aux services en français et l’annulation des plans pour l’Université de l’Ontario français,

Considérant que ces décisions constituent une trahison de la responsabilité de l’Ontario envers notre communauté francophone,

Qu’il soit résolu que l’Assemblée demande au gouvernement de maintenir le bureau du Commissaire aux services en français, ainsi que son financement et ses pouvoirs, et de maintenir l’engagement de l’Ontario de financer l’Université de l’Ontario français.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Lost on the following division:-

Rejetée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 44

Andrew

Armstrong

Arthur

Begum

Bell

Berns-McGown

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

Des Rosiers

Fife

Fraser

French

Gates

Gélinas

Glover

Gravelle

Gretzky

Harden

Hassan

Hatfield

Horwath

Hunter

Karpoche

Kernaghan

Lalonde

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Miller (Hamilton East—Stoney Creek)

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Natyshak

Rakocevic

Sattler

Schreiner

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Stiles

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

West

Yarde

NAYS / CONTRE - 63

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Cho (Willowdale)

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Downey

Dunlop

Elliott

Fee

Fullerton

Ghamari

Hardeman

Harris

Hillier

Hogarth

Jones

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Ke

Khanjin

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

Miller (Parry Sound–Muskoka)

Mitas

Mulroney

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Parsa

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Romano

Sabawy

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Scott

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Yakabuski

Yurek

Second Reading of Bill 57, An Act to enact, amend and repeal various statutes.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 57, Loi édictant, modifiant et abrogeant diverses lois.

Pursuant to the Order of the House passed earlier today,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée adopté plus tôt aujourd’hui,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 64

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Cho (Willowdale)

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Downey

Dunlop

Elliott

Fee

Fullerton

Ghamari

Hardeman

Harris

Hillier

Hogarth

Jones

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Ke

Khanjin

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

Miller (Parry Sound–Muskoka)

Mitas

Mulroney

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Parsa

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Romano

Sabawy

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Scott

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Yakabuski

Yurek

NAYS / CONTRE - 44

Andrew

Armstrong

Arthur

Begum

Bell

Berns-McGown

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

Des Rosiers

Fife

Fraser

French

Gates

Gélinas

Glover

Gretzky

Harden

Hassan

Hatfield

Horwath

Hunter

Karpoche

Kernaghan

Lalonde

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Miller (Hamilton East—Stoney Creek)

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Natyshak

Rakocevic

Sattler

Schreiner

Shaw

Simard

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Stiles

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

West

Yarde

Pursuant to the Order of the House passed earlier today,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée adopté plus tôt aujourd’hui,

Referred to the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs.

Renvoyé au Comité permanent des finances et des affaires économiques.

Mr. Smith (Bay of Quinte) moved that the House do now adjourn.

M. Smith (Baie de Quinte) propose que la Chambre ajourne ses travaux.

Carried on division.

Adoptée au vote.

The House adjourned at 4:35 p.m.

À 16 h 35, la Chambre a ajourné ses travaux.

le président

Ted Arnott

Speaker

RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS

RÉPONSES AUX QUESTIONS ÉCRITES

Final Answer to Question Number: 18.

RESPONSES TO PETITIONS

RÉPONSES AUX PÉTITIONS

Implementing minimum wage (Sessional Paper No. P-4):

(Tabled October 16, 2018) Ms. Andrew.

(Tabled October 4, 2018) Ms. Begum.

(Tabled October 4, 15, 2018) Mr. Hassan.

(Tabled October 4, 16, 2018) Ms. Karpoche.

(Tabled October 4, 15, 2018) Ms. Singh (Brampton Centre).

(Tabled October 4, 2018) Ms. Stiles.

Gun violence (Sessional Paper No. P-33):

(Tabled October 4, 2018) Ms. Hunter.

Animal welfare standards (Sessional Paper No. P-43):

(Tabled September 20, 27, 2018) Ms. Hogarth.