No. 10 No 10
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Votes and Proceedings |
Procès-verbaux |
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Legislative Assembly of Ontario |
Assemblée législative de l'Ontario |
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1st Session, 36th Parliament |
1re session, 36e législature |
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Monday, October 16, 1995 |
Lundi 16 octobre 1995 |
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PRAYERS 1:30 P.M. |
PRIÈRES 13 H 30 |
The Speaker informed the House that he has today laid upon the Table the Twentieth Report of the Commission on Election Finances for the year 1994 / Vingtième rapport annuel de la Commission sur le financement des élections pour l'année 1994 (Sessional Paper No. 17) (Tabled October 16, 1995).
The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-
Before beginning our deliberations today, I would like to address the House on the subject of Question Period and decorum in general.
We have now had seven Question Periods in this Parliament and I feel it is important that I take a few moments at this point to convey my views and expectations with respect to that proceeding for the coming weeks.
Prior to my election as your Speaker, I heard an overwhelming wish on your part and also from the public, for a more efficient use of time in Question Period and for improved order and decorum in this House. Since accepting the honour you bestowed upon me, I have been striving to this end, however, it is only with the co-operation of Members, that a Speaker can ensure the orderly conduct of business in this House.
Today I seek your help in two areas.
The first has to do with interjections. While I am certainly aware of the fact that to a certain degree, interjections are to be expected, my concern is that on occasion, heckling rises to a point where the person who has the floor is unable to clearly express himself or herself and the Speaker and other Members cannot hear what is being said. If I, as Speaker, am unable to hear what is said, I cannot maintain order in this place. Members who persist in interjecting to this extent will be asked to leave and if they do not, they will be named.
I hasten to add that I have been a Member for a number of years and I undertake, as my side of the bargain, to do this in an impartial manner, taking into account the mood of the House.
The Chair certainly does not wish to hinder the expression of good humour and I know from experience that emotions can sometimes run high on certain issues. I undertake to bring some perspective to these situations but I would ask honourable members to help me in this regard.
The second matter on which your co-operation is requested has to do with addressing your comments in the House to the Chair. This is not a difficult technique to master but one that would bring a great improvement to decorum. Remarks should be made by addressing the Speaker directly, while referring to other Members in the third person. This technique is a tradition in British-style Parliaments throughout the Commonwealth and has the benefit of depersonalizing the comments made, thereby keeping the level of direct emotional involvement down.
Question Periods to date have been successful in providing the opportunity for thirteen to fifteen questions. This is an improvement over the past, mainly because preambles have been shorter, as have been the answers. I will continue to monitor the situation daily and will meet again with the Whips if that was deemed to be useful.
I thank you for your attention.
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During "Oral Questions", the Speaker requested the member for Hamilton East (Mr Agostino) to withdraw unparliamentary language. |
Pendant la période des «Questions orales», le Président demande au député de Hamilton Est, M. Agostino de retirer les propos non-parlementaires. |
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The member having refused was named by the Speaker and directed to withdraw from the service of the House for the balance of the day's sitting. |
Comme le député refuse d'obéir, le Président le désigne par son nom et l'ordonne de se retirer du service de l'Assemblée pour le reste du jour de la séance. |
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MOTIONS |
MOTIONS |
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Mr Runciman moved, |
M. Runciman propose, |
That, notwithstanding Standing Order 8(a), the House shall meet at 1:30 p.m. on Thursday, October 19, 1995.
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A debate arose and, after some time, Mr Cooke moved the adjournment of the debate, which motion was carried on the following division:- |
Il s'élève un débat et après quelque temps, M. Cooke propose l'ajournement du débat et cette motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:- |
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AYES - 74 NAYS - 32 |
POUR - 74 CONTRE - 32 |
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PETITIONS |
PÉTITIONS |
Petition relating to Karla Homolka's Plea Bargain Arrangement (Sessional Paper No. P-6) (Tabled October 16, 1995) Mr T. Barrett, Mr J. Bradley, Mrs E. Caplan, Ms A. Castrilli.
Petition relating to Motorcycle and Snowmobile Insurance (Sessional Paper No. P-8) (Tabled October 16, 1995) Mr T. Arnott.
Petition relating to Bill 7, Labour Relations and Employment Statute Law Amendment Act, 1995 (Sessional Paper No. P-9) (Tabled October 16, 1995) Mr D. Christopherson, Ms M. Churley, Ms S. Martel, Mr T. Martin, Mr G. Pouliot, Mr T. Silipo, Mr L. Wood (Cochrane North).
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INTRODUCTION OF BILLS |
DÉPOT DES PROJETS DE LOI |
Mr Christopherson moved, that leave be given to introduce a Bill entitled An Act respecting the establishment of an inquiry into the effect of the proposed amendments to the Labour Relations Act and that the same be now read the first time which motion was lost on the following division:-
AYES / POUR - 32
Bartolucci Crozier Marchese
Boyd Curling Martel
Bradley Duncan McGuinty
Brown Gerretsen Morin
(Algoma-Manitoulin) Gravelle Patten
Caplan Hampton Phillips
Castrilli Hoy Pouliot
Christopherson Kwinter Pupatello
Churley Lalonde Sergio
Colle Lankin Silipo
Cooke Laughren Wildman
NAYS / CONTRE - 70
Arnott Guzzo Palladini
Baird Hardeman Parker
Barrett Harnick Pettit
Bassett Hastings Preston
Beaubien Hodgson Rollins
Boushy Hudak Ross
Brown Jackson Sampson
(Scarborough West) Johns Shea
Carr Johnson Sheehan
Carroll (Brantford) Skarica
Chudleigh Johnson Smith
Clement (Perth) Snobelen
Cunningham Jordan Spina
Danford Kells Sterling
DeFaria Klees Stewart
Doyle Leach Tascona
Ecker Leadston Tilson
Fisher Marland Tsubouchi
Flaherty Martiniuk Turnbull
Ford Maves Villeneuve
Fox Munro Wettlaufer
Froese Mushinski Wood
Galt Newman (London South)
Gilchrist O'Toole Young
Grimmett Ouellette
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Mr Cooke moved the adjournment of the House, which motion was lost on the following division:- |
M. Cooke propose l'ajournement des débats de l'Assemblée et cette motion est rejetée par le vote suivant:- |
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AYES - 25 NAYS - 74 |
POUR - 25 CONTRE - 74 |
On motion by Mr Tilson, Bill 9, An Act respecting the rounding of the Penny in Cash Transactions was introduced and read the first time on the following division:-
AYES / POUR - 101
Arnott Gilchrist Parker
Baird Gravelle Patten
Barrett Grimmett Pettit
Bartolucci Guzzo Phillips
Bassett Hardeman Pouliot
Beaubien Harnick Preston
Boushy Hastings Pupatello
Boyd Hodgson Ramsay
Bradley Hoy Rollins
Brown Hudak Ross
(Scarborough West) Jackson Runciman
Caplan Johns Sampson
Carr Johnson Sergio
Carroll (Brantford) Shea
Castrilli Johnson Sheehan
Chiarelli (Perth) Silipo
Christopherson Jordan Skarica
Chudleigh Kells Smith
Churley Klees Snobelen
Clement Kwinter Spina
Colle Lalonde Sterling
Cooke Lankin Stewart
Crozier Laughren Tascona
Cunningham Leadston Tilson
Danford Marchese Tsubouchi
DeFaria Marland Turnbull
Doyle Martel Villeneuve
Duncan Martin Wettlaufer
Ecker Martiniuk Wildman
Fisher Maves Wood
Flaherty Munro (Cochrane North)
Ford Mushinski Wood
Fox Newman (London South)
AYES / POUR - Continued
Froese O'Toole Young
Galt Ouellette
Gerretsen Palladini
NAYS / CONTRE - 0
At 5:24 p.m., the deferred vote on the Amendment to the Amendment to the Motion for an Address in Reply to the Speech of His Honour the Lieutenant Governor at the Opening of the Session was lost on the following division:-
AYES / POUR - 34
Bartolucci Duncan McLeod
Boyd Gerretsen Morin
Bradley Gravelle Patten
Brown Hampton Phillips
(Algoma-Manitoulin) Hoy Pouliot
Caplan Kwinter Pupatello
Castrilli Lalonde Ramsay
Christopherson Lankin Sergio
Churley Laughren Silipo
Colle Marchese Wildman
Cooke Martel Wood
Crozier Martin (Cochrane North)
NAYS / CONTRE - 76
Arnott Harnick Pettit
Baird Harris Preston
Barrett Hastings Rollins
Bassett Hudak Ross
Beaubien Jackson Runciman
Boushy Johns Sampson
Brown Johnson Saunderson
(Scarborough West) (Brantford) Shea
Carr Johnson Sheehan
Carroll (Don Mills) Skarica
Chudleigh Johnson Smith
Clement (Perth) Snobelen
Cunningham Jordan Spina
Danford Kells Sterling
DeFaria Klees Stewart
Doyle Leach Tascona
NAYS / CONTRE - Continued
Ecker Leadston Tilson
Fisher Marland Tsubouchi
Flaherty Martiniuk Turnbull
Ford Maves Vankoughnet
Fox Munro Villeneuve
Froese Mushinski Wettlaufer
Galt Newman Wilson
Gilchrist O'Toole Witmer
Grimmett Ouellette Wood
Guzzo Palladini (London South)
Hardeman Parker Young
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The amendment to the motion as follows:- |
La modification de la motion est la suivante:- |
That the motion be amended by adding the following thereto:-
"This House profoundly regrets that the new government has put forward an agenda that is a breach of trust for Ontarians who were promised jobs and a brighter future and that therefore this House condemns the government:
1. For its litany of broken campaign promises.
2. For its failure to reaffirm its plan to see the creation of 725,000 jobs.
3. For its failure to reaffirm its commitment not to cut health care funding.
4. For proceeding hastily to cut welfare benefits while the promise to help people get off welfare and into the workforce goes unfulfilled.
5. For its failure to put forward a constructive agenda and for instead practising the politics of punishment and intolerance.
6. For its overwhelming and clear commitment to put Ontario on a path toward higher unemployment, a widening gap between the rich and poor, a health care system faced with cutbacks and threatened with user fees, reduced access to education and policies that benefit the wealthy most at the expense of the most vulnerable in society."
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having been put, was lost on the following division:- |
mise aux voix, est rejetée par le vote suivant:- |
AYES / POUR - 34
Bartolucci Duncan McLeod
Boyd Gerretsen Morin
Bradley Gravelle Patten
Brown Hampton Phillips
(Algoma-Manitoulin) Hoy Pouliot
Caplan Kwinter Pupatello
Castrilli Lalonde Ramsay
Christopherson Lankin Sergio
Churley Laughren Silipo
Colle Marchese Wildman
Cooke Martel Wood
Crozier Martin (Cochrane North)
NAYS / CONTRE - 76
Arnott Harnick Pettit
Baird Harris Preston
Barrett Hastings Rollins
Bassett Hudak Ross
Beaubien Jackson Runciman
Boushy Johns Sampson
Brown Johnson Saunderson
(Scarborough West) (Brantford) Shea
Carr Johnson Sheehan
Carroll (Don Mills) Skarica
Chudleigh Johnson Smith
Clement (Perth) Snobelen
Cunningham Jordan Spina
Danford Kells Sterling
DeFaria Klees Stewart
Doyle Leach Tascona
Ecker Leadston Tilson
Fisher Marland Tsubouchi
Flaherty Martiniuk Turnbull
Ford Maves Vankoughnet
Fox Munro Villeneuve
Froese Mushinski Wettlaufer
Galt Newman Wilson
Gilchrist O'Toole Witmer
Grimmett Ouellette Wood
Guzzo Palladini (London South)
Hardeman Parker Young
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The main motion, having then been put, was carried on the following division:- |
La motion principale, après avoir mise aux voix, est adoptée par le vote suivant:- |
AYES /POUR - 76
Arnott Harnick Pettit
Baird Harris Preston
Barrett Hastings Rollins
Bassett Hudak Ross
Beaubien Jackson Runciman
Boushy Johns Sampson
Brown Johnson Saunderson
(Scarborough West) (Brantford) Shea
Carr Johnson Sheehan
Carroll (Don Mills) Skarica
Chudleigh Johnson Smith
Clement (Perth) Snobelen
Cunningham Jordan Spina
Danford Kells Sterling
DeFaria Klees Stewart
Doyle Leach Tascona
Ecker Leadston Tilson
Fisher Marland Tsubouchi
Flaherty Martiniuk Turnbull
Ford Maves Vankoughnet
Fox Munro Villeneuve
Froese Mushinski Wettlaufer
Galt Newman Wilson
Gilchrist O'Toole Witmer
Grimmett Ouellette Wood
Guzzo Palladini (London South)
Hardeman Parker Young
NAYS / CONTRE - 34
Bartolucci Duncan McLeod
Boyd Gerretsen Morin
Bradley Gravelle Patten
Brown Hampton Phillips
(Algoma-Manitoulin) Hoy Pouliot
Caplan Kwinter Pupatello
Castrilli Lalonde Ramsay
Christopherson Lankin Sergio
Churley Laughren Silipo
Colle Marchese Wildman
Cooke Martel Wood
Crozier Martin (Cochrane North)
And it was,
Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to His Honour the Lieutenant Governor as follows:-
"To the Honourable Henry Newton Rowell Jackman, A Member of the Order of Canada, Knight in the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, Doctor of Laws, Bachelor of Laws, Bachelor of Arts, Honorary Colonel of the Governor General's Horse Guards, Honorary Colonel of 429 (Tactical Transport) Squadron at Canadian Forces Base Trenton, Honorary Captain (N) of the Fifth Canadian Maritime Operations Group at Halifax, Nova Scotia, Lieutenant-Governor of Ontario:
We, Her Majesty's most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario, now assembled, beg leave to thank Your Honour for the gracious speech Your Honour has addressed to us."
Ordered, That the Address be engrossed and presented to His Honour the Lieutenant Governor by those Members of this House who are Members of the Executive Council.
At 5:40 p.m., the deferred vote on Mrs McLeod's Opposition Day Motion Number 1 was lost on the following division:-
AYES / POUR - 36
Bartolucci Duncan McLeod
Boyd Gerretsen Morin
Bradley Gravelle Patten
Brown Hampton Phillips
(Algoma-Manitoulin) Hoy Pouliot
Caplan Kwinter Pupatello
Castrilli Lalonde Ramsay
Christopherson Lankin Sergio
Churley Laughren Silipo
Colle Marchese Wildman
Cooke Martel Wood
Crozier Martin (Cochrane North)
Curling McGuinty
NAYS / CONTRE - 77
Arnott Harris Preston
Baird Hastings Rollins
Barrett Hodgson Ross
Bassett Hudak Runciman
Beaubien Jackson Sampson
Boushy Johns Saunderson
Brown Johnson Shea
(Scarborough West) (Brantford) Sheehan
Carr Johnson Skarica
Carroll (Don Mills) Smith
Chudleigh Johnson Snobelen
Clement (Perth) Spina
Cunningham Jordan Sterling
Danford Kells Stewart
DeFaria Klees Tascona
Ecker Leach Tilson
Elliott Leadston Tsubouchi
Fisher Marland Turnbull
Flaherty Martiniuk Vankoughnet
Ford Maves Villeneuve
Fox Munro Wettlaufer
Froese Mushinski Wilson
Galt Newman Witmer
Gilchrist O'Toole Wood
Grimmett Ouellette (London South)
Guzzo Palladini Young
Hardeman Parker
Harnick Pettit
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The House then adjourned at 6:00 p.m. |
À 18 h, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux. |
le président
Allan McLean
Speaker
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Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 39(c):- |
Documents Parlementaires Déposés Conformément à l'article 39(c) du Règlement:- |
Development Corporations 1994/95 Annual Reports of Loans and Guarantees (No. 14) (Tabled October 13, 1995).
McMichael Canadian Art Collection Annual Report for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1994 (No. 16) (Tabled October 13, 1995).
Royal Botanical Gardens / Les jardins botaniques royaux, Annual Report for the year ended December 31, 1994 (No. 15) (Tabled October 13, 1995).