Legislative Assembly of Ontario

Assemblée

législative
de l’Ontario

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

No. 36

No 36

1st Session
42nd Parliament

1re session
42e législature

Wednesday
October 17, 2018

Mercredi

17 octobre 2018

9:00 A.M.

9 H

PRAYERS

PRIÈRES

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Third Reading of Bill 36, An Act to enact a new Act and make amendments to various other Acts respecting the use and sale of cannabis and vapour products in Ontario.

Troisième lecture du projet de loi 36, Loi édictant une nouvelle loi et modifiant diverses autres lois en ce qui concerne l’utilisation et la vente de cannabis et de produits de vapotage en Ontario.

Debate arose and after some time the House recessed at 10:13 a.m.

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps, à 10 h 13, la Chambre a suspendu la séance.

10:30 A.M.

10 H 30

ORAL QUESTIONS

QUESTIONS ORALES

The Speaker informed the House of the following changes in the Order of Precedence for Private Members’ Public Business:-

Le Président a informé la Chambre des changements suivants dans l’ordre de priorité des affaires d’intérêt public émanant des députés :-

Mr. Tabuns assumes ballot item number 25;

Mr. Vanthof assumes ballot item number 40.

The House recessed at 11:43 a.m.

À 11 h 43, la Chambre a suspendu la séance.

3:00 P.M.

15 H

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI

The following Bill was introduced and read the first time:-

Le projet de loi suivant est présenté et lu une première fois :-

Bill 45, An Act to amend the Child Care and Early Years Act, 2014 to limit funding of child care and early years programs and services to not-for-profit corporations. Ms. Begum.

Projet de loi 45, Loi modifiant la Loi de 2014 sur la garde d'enfants et la petite enfance pour limiter aux organisations sans but lucratif le financement des programmes et des services pour la garde d'enfants et la petite enfance. Mme Begum.

PETITIONS

PÉTITIONS

Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada (Sessional Paper No. P-1) Mr. Mantha and Miss Taylor.

Implementing minimum wage (Sessional Paper No. P-4) Ms. Bell and Ms. Singh (Brampton Centre).

Rainbow District School Board (Sessional Paper No. P-21) Mr. Mantha.

The price of gasoline (Sessional Paper No. P-34) Mme Gélinas.

Injured workers (Sessional Paper No. P-36) Ms. Karpoche.

Animal welfare standards (Sessional Paper No. P-43) Mrs. Martow.

Health Sciences North (Sessional Paper No. P-46) Mme Gélinas.

Addiction withdrawal management services (Sessional Paper No. P-54) Mrs. Fee.

Martial arts tournaments (Sessional Paper No. P-60) Mr. Harden.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Third Reading of Bill 36, An Act to enact a new Act and make amendments to various other Acts respecting the use and sale of cannabis and vapour products in Ontario.

Troisième lecture du projet de loi 36, Loi édictant une nouvelle loi et modifiant diverses autres lois en ce qui concerne l’utilisation et la vente de cannabis et de produits de vapotage en Ontario.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Pursuant to the Order of the House dated October 3, 2018,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée du 3 octobre 2018,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 69

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Barrett

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Cho (Willowdale)

Clark

Coe

Coteau

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Dunlop

Fedeli

Fee

Ford

Fullerton

Ghamari

Gill

Hardeman

Harris

Hillier

Hogarth

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Ke

Khanjin

Kramp

Kusendova

Lecce

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

McNaughton

Miller (Parry Sound–Muskoka)

Mulroney

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Parsa

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Romano

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Schreiner

Scott

Simard

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough–Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Wilson

Yakabuski

Yurek

NAYS / CONTRE - 41

Andrew

Arthur

Bell

Berns-McGown

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

Des Rosiers

Fife

Fraser

French

Gates

Gélinas

Glover

Gretzky

Harden

Hassan

Hatfield

Horwath

Hunter

Karpoche

Kernaghan

Lalonde

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Miller (Hamilton East—Stoney Creek)

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Natyshak

Sattler

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Singh (Brampton East)

Stevens

Stiles

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

Wynne

Yarde

The Bill passed.

Le projet de loi est adopté.

With unanimous consent,

Avec le consentement unanime,

On motion by Mr. Smith (Bay of Quinte),

Sur la motion de M. Smith (Baie de Quinte),

Ordered, That, notwithstanding the Order of the House dated October 3, 2018, the Standing Committee on General Government be authorized to sit until 6:30 p.m. tonight.

Amendment to the amendment to the motion regarding amendments to the Standing Orders.

Pursuant to the Order of the House dated October 16, 2018,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée du 16 octobre 2018,

The question was then put, as follows:-

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix, comme suite :-

Mme Des Rosiers moved,

Mme Des Rosiers propose,

That the amendment to the motion be amended by adding at the end:

“That, pending the work of the Select Committee on Modernizing the Standing Orders,

Standing Order 24(b) is deleted and the following substituted:

24(b) Notwithstanding clause (a), at the commencement of any debate set out in this Standing Order, the first speaker for any recognized Party in the House may speak for not more than 60 minutes, an Independent Liberal Member may speak for 30 minutes and a Green Independent member may speak for 5 minutes:

(i) debate on Second Reading of a government bill;

(ii) debate on Third Reading of a government bill;

(iii) debate on the Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne;

(iv) debate on the Budget motion;

(v) debate on any other substantive government motion.

Standing Order 24(d) is amended by adding after the word “Party”, “and any Liberal Independent member may divide his or her time among any other of the Liberal Independent members.”

Standing Order 24 is amended by adding the following clause:

(f) In conducting any debate under this Standing Order, the Speaker shall have regard to the rotation recommendation set out in section 1 of the Schedule to the Standing Orders.

Standing Order 31(c) is deleted and the following substituted:

31(c) One Liberal Independent Member shall be entitled to make one Members’ Statement each day, except that once every 8 sessional days, such statement shall instead be allotted to the Green Independent Member.

Standing Order 33(c) is amended by adding at the end of the first line “and to each Independent member”.

Standing Order 37(i) is deleted and the following substituted:

37(i) The Speaker has the discretion to permit an independent member to participate in Oral Questions. In exercising this discretion, the Speaker shall have regard to the rotation recommendation set out in section 2 of the Schedule to the Standing Orders.

Standing Order 43(a)(iii) and (iv) are deleted and the following substituted:

(iii) shall be distributed such that the Official Opposition is entitled to designate 4 days, and the Liberal Independents may designate 1 day;

(iv) shall be taken up upon the commencement of Orders of the Day in the afternoon on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday, as the case may be, the time available being apportioned such that the Independent members shall have 20% of the available time, to be divided among them at their discretion, with the remaining time apportioned equally among the recognized Parties in the House; the time for a reply by the mover of the motion shall be included in the time apportioned to the Party of which the mover is a member, or to the Independent members, as the case may be;

Standing Order 44(a) is deleted and the following substituted:

44(a) In any Session, upon proper notice, the Official Opposition is entitled to not more than three motions of want of confidence in the government; the recognized Party having the third largest membership in the House is entitled to not more than two such motions, any other recognized Party to one, and the Independent Liberals to one.

Standing Order 47(b) is amended by deleting the words “apportioned equally among the recognized parties” and substituting “apportioned such that the Independent members shall have 20% of the available time, to be divided among them at their discretion, with the remaining time apportioned equally among the recognized Parties in the House”.

Standing Order 54 is amended by adding after the word “Parties”, “and to each Independent member”.

Standing Order 63(d) is amended by deleting the words “apportioned equally among the recognized parties” and substituting “apportioned such that the Independent members shall have 20% of the available time, to be divided among them at their discretion, with the remaining time apportioned equally among the recognized Parties in the House”.

Standing Order 64 is amended by deleting the words “apportioned equally among the recognized parties” and substituting “apportioned such that the Independent members shall have 20% of the available time, to be divided among them at their discretion, with the remaining time apportioned equally among the recognized Parties in the House”.

Standing Order 67(b) is amended by deleting the words “apportioned equally among the recognized parties” and substituting “apportioned such that the Independent members shall have 20% of the available time, to be divided among them at their discretion, with the remaining time apportioned equally among the recognized Parties in the House”.

Standing Order 77(a) is amended by adding “and to all Independent members”.

Standing Order 98(a) is amended by adding the following sub-clause:

(ii.1) A period of 8 minutes allotted to the Liberal Independent members, and a period of 4 minutes allotted to the Green Independent member.

Standing Order 98(a)(iv) is deleted.

Standing Order 113 is amended by adding the following clause:

113(e.1) A Liberal Independent Member on any committee may provide written notification to the Clerk of the Committee, before or within the first 30 minutes of a Committee meeting being called to order, that another Liberal Independent member will be temporarily substituting for all or part of a committee meeting.

Standing Order 125 is deleted and the following substituted:

125. Following the election of a Chair and Vice-Chair at its first meeting in each Session, a Standing Committee shall appoint a Sub-committee on Committee Business, consisting of the Chair of the Standing Committee as Chair, one member from each of the recognized Parties on the Committee and for those committees whose membership includes an Independent Liberal, that member, to meet from time to time at the call of the Chair or at the request of any member thereof and to report to the Committee on the business of the Committee.

The following Schedule to the Standing Orders is added:

SCHEDULE

1. Recommended rotation during debates under Standing Order 24

Government; Official Opposition; Liberal Independent member; Government; Official Opposition; Green Independent member (“bankable” in accordance with the Speaker’s statement given on July 19, 2018), then repeat the rotation.

2. Recommended rotation during Oral Questions

Official Opposition - 1 question and 2 supplementary questions

Official Opposition - 1 question and 2 supplementary questions

Liberal Independent member - 1 question and 1 supplementary question

Independent member - 1 question and 1 supplementary question

Followed by a repeated rotation of:

Official Opposition - 1 question and 1 supplementary question

Government - 1 question and 1 supplementary question

Official Opposition - 1 question and 1 supplementary question

Government - 1 question and 1 supplementary question

Any one Independent Member - 1 question and 1 supplementary question.”

Lost on the following division:-

Rejetée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 7

Coteau

Des Rosiers

Fraser

Hunter

Lalonde

Schreiner

Wynne

NAYS / CONTRE - 103

Anand

Andrew

Arthur

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Barrett

Bell

Berns-McGown

Bisson

Bouma

Bourgouin

Burch

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Fullerton

Gates

Gélinas

Ghamari

Gill

Glover

Gretzky

Hardeman

Harden

Harris

Hassan

Hatfield

Hillier

Hogarth

Horwath

Mantha

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

McNaughton

Miller (Hamilton East—Stoney Creek)

Miller (Parry Sound–Muskoka)

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Mulroney

Natyshak

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Scott

Shaw

Simard

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Singh (Brampton East)

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough–Kawartha)

Stevens

Stiles

Surma

Tabuns

Tangri

Taylor

Thanigasalam

NAYS / CONTRE - Continued

Cho (Willowdale)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Dunlop

Fedeli

Fee

Fife

Ford

French

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Karpoche

Ke

Kernaghan

Khanjin

Kramp

Kusendova

Lecce

Lindo

Mamakwa

Parsa

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Romano

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Sattler

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Vanthof

Wai

Walker

Wilson

Yakabuski

Yarde

Yurek

Amendment to the motion regarding amendments to the Standing Orders.

Pursuant to the Order of the House dated October 16, 2018,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée du 16 octobre 2018,

The question was then put, as follows:-

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix, comme suite :-

Mme Gélinas moved,

Mme Gélinas propose,

That the motion be amended by deleting everything after “That” in the first paragraph and replacing with:

“a Select Committee on Modernizing the Standing Orders be appointed to consider and report to the House its observations and recommendations with respect to proposed changes to the Standing Orders that would better serve the democratic interests of the people of Ontario.

That in developing its strategy and recommendations, the Committee shall focus on the following:

• Measures that reflect the Government’s right to carry out its agenda and opposition parties’ responsibility to hold the Government to account

That the Committee shall have the authority to call for persons, papers and things, and generally shall have such duties and powers as are required to carry out its mandate;

That the Committee be composed of five members from the Government, one of which shall be the Chair, two members of the Official Opposition, one Liberal Independent member and one Green Independent; and

That the Committee shall report back to the House by no later than February 28, 2019.”

Lost on the following division:-

Rejetée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 43

Andrew

Arthur

Bell

Berns-McGown

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

Coteau

Des Rosiers

Fife

Fraser

French

Gates

Gélinas

Glover

Gretzky

Harden

Hassan

Hatfield

Horwath

Hunter

Karpoche

Kernaghan

Lalonde

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Miller (Hamilton East—Stoney Creek)

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Natyshak

Sattler

Schreiner

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Singh (Brampton East)

Stevens

Stiles

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

Wynne

Yarde

NAYS / CONTRE - 67

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Barrett

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Cho (Willowdale)

Fullerton

Ghamari

Gill

Hardeman

Harris

Hillier

Hogarth

Kanapathi

Karahalios

McKenna

McNaughton

Miller (Parry Sound–Muskoka)

Mulroney

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Parsa

Pettapiece

Scott

Simard

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough–Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Dunlop

Fedeli

Fee

Ford

Ke

Khanjin

Kramp

Kusendova

Lecce

Martin

Martow

McDonell

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Romano

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Wilson

Yakabuski

Yurek

Motion regarding amendments to the Standing Orders.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Mr. Piccini moved,

M. Piccini propose,

That Government Order Number 4 be amended by striking out the sixth paragraph that begins “That Standing Order 47(b) be amended...”.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

The Deputy Speaker informed the House that, in the name of Her Majesty the Queen, Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor had been pleased to assent to the following Bill in her office on October 17, 2018.

Le Vice-Président a informé l’Assemblée qu’au nom de Sa Majesté la Reine, Son Honneur la lieutenante-gouverneure a eu le plaisir de sanctionner le projet de loi suivant dans son bureau le 17 octobre 2018.

Bill 36, An Act to enact a new Act and make amendments to various other Acts respecting the use and sale of cannabis and vapour products in Ontario.

Projet de loi 36, Loi édictant une nouvelle loi et modifiant diverses autres lois en ce qui concerne l’utilisation et la vente de cannabis et de produits de vapotage en Ontario.

The House adjourned at 6:00 p.m.

À 18 h, la Chambre a ajourné ses travaux.

le président

Ted Arnott

Speaker

PETITIONS TABLED PURSUANT TO
STANDING ORDER 39(a)

PÉTITIONS DÉPOSÉES CONFORMÉMENT À L’ARTICLE
39 a) DU RÈGLEMENT

Implementing minimum wage (Sessional Paper No. P-4) (Tabled October 17, 2018) Mr. Downey.

SESSIONAL PAPERS PRESENTED PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER 40

DOCUMENTS PARLEMENTAIRES DÉPOSÉS CONFORMÉMENT À L’ARTICLE 40 DU RÈGLEMENT

Toronto Islands Residential Community Trust Corporation, 2017-2018 Annual Report / Société de fiducie portant sur la zone résidentielle des îles de Toronto, Rapport annuel 2017-2018 (No. 75) (Tabled October 17, 2018).