Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 22
Evening Meeting - Sessional Day 23
Mercredi
5 juin 2002
Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 22
Séance du soir - jour de session 23
3rd Session,
37th Parliament
3e session
37e législature
PRAYERS
1:30 P.M.
PRIÈRES
13 H 30
REPORTS BY
COMMITTEES
RAPPORTS DES
COMITÉS
Mr. Barrett from the Standing
Committee on Justice and Social Policy presented the Committee's
Report which was read as follows and adopted:-
M. Barrett du Comité
permanent de la justice et des affaires sociales présente le
rapport du comité et propose l'adoption comme
suit:-
Your Committee begs to report
the following Bill as amended:-
Votre comité propose qu'il
soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant avec
amendements:-
Bill 86, An Act to rescue
children trapped in the misery of prostitution and other forms of
sexual exploitation and to amend the Highway Traffic
Act.
Projet de loi 86, Loi visant
à délivrer les enfants prisonniers de la prostitution
et d'autres formes d'exploitation sexuelle et modifiant le Code
de la route.
Ordered for Third
Reading.
Ordonné pour la
troisième lecture.
Mr. Galt from the Select
Committee on Alternative Fuel Sources presented the Committee's
Final Report and moved the adoption of its recommendations
(Sessional Paper No. 18).
M. Galt du Comité
spécial des sources de carburants de remplacement
présente le rapport final du comité et propose
l'adoption de ses recommandations (document parlementaire
no 18).
On motion by Mr.
Galt,
Sur la motion de M.
Galt,
Ordered, That the debate be
adjourned.
Il est ordonné que le
débat soit ajourné.
Pursuant to Standing Order
32(d), the Committee requested a comprehensive response from the
government.
Conformément à
l'article 32(d) du Règlement, le comité demande au
gouvernement de déposer une réponse globale au
rapport.
MOTIONS
MOTIONS
On motion by Mr.
Stockwell,
Sur la motion de M.
Stockwell,
Ordered, That the following
amendment be made to the membership of certain
committees:
Mr. Stewart replaces Mr.
Chudleigh on the Standing Committee on General
Government.
During "Oral Questions", the
Speaker requested the Member for Renfrew--Nipissing--Pembroke
(Mr. Conway) to withdraw unparliamentary language.
Pendant la période des
«Questions orales», le Président demande au
député de Renfrew--Nipissing--Pembroke, M. Conway, de
retirer les propos non-parlementaires.
The Member having refused was
named by the Speaker and directed to withdraw from the service of
the House for the balance of the sessional day.
Comme le député refuse
d'obéir, le Président le désigne par son nom et
l'ordonne de se retirer du service de l'Assemblée pour le
reste du jour de session.
PETITIONS
PÉTITIONS
Petition relating to Increase in
funding for long term care facilities (Sessional Paper No.
P-7)
Mr. Bradley .
Petitions relating to Stopping
the deregulation and privatization of Ontario's electricity
system (Sessional Paper No. P-8) Mr. Caplan and Mr.
Hoy.
Petition relating to the Hours
of care per resident per day for seniors in nursing homes
(Sessional Paper No. P-19) Ms. Martel.
Petition relating to Community
care access centres (Sessional Paper No. P-29) Mrs.
McLeod.
Petition relating to Funding
audiologists directly for the provision of audiology services
(Sessional Paper No. P-30) Mr. McMeekin.
Petition relating to Funding of
Ontario's universities and colleges (Sessional Paper No. P-33)
Mr. Bartolucci.
Petition relating to Severance
packages to senior executives of Hydro One (Sessional Paper No.
P-45) Mr. O'Toole.
ORDERS OF THE
DAY
ORDRE DU JOUR
On a point of order being
raised, the Acting Speaker (Mr. Johnson) recessed the House for
15 minutes.
Upon his return, the Acting
Speaker delivered the following ruling:-
I have carefully reviewed the
Standing Orders respecting time allocation. The only
restriction placed upon such motions respecting how much time can
be allocated to each stage is that which stipulates that a time
allocation motion cannot be moved until there have been at least
3 Sessional days of second reading debate. This requirement has
been met with respect to Bill 135. Except with respect to the
rules around notice and debate of such a motion, there are no
other restrictions; Standing Order 46 is very clear.
We have had several examples in
this House of time allocation motions which allocate no committee
time and several examples which allocate no time for debate at
Third Reading. In his ruling of July 21, 1992, Speaker Warner
stated that the Standing Orders do not "require that the motion
provide for a minimum period of debate at third reading of a
bill". Similarly, there is no Standing Order requirement that the
motion provide for committee consideration.
Let me be clear, each of the 3
required stages of legislative consideration will be decided by
this House. Additionally, the required 3 days of Second Reading
debate have occurred. All of the terms of the Standing Orders
have been satisfied.
I find that Government Notices
of Motion 8 and 9 do comply with Standing Order 46 and are
therefore in order.
Mr. Baird moved,
M. Baird propose,
That pursuant to Standing Order
46 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order
of the House relating to Bill 135, An Act to recognize Ontario's
recreational hunting and fishing heritage and to establish the
Fish and Wildlife Heritage Commission, when Bill 135 is next
called as a government order, the Speaker shall put every
question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the
bill, without further debate or amendment, and
That, the vote on second reading
may, pursuant to Standing Order 28(h), be deferred until the next
Sessional day during the Routine Proceeding "Deferred Votes";
and
That on the same day that the
bill receives second reading, it may be called for third reading
and;
When the order for third reading
is called, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to
dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or
amendment; and
That, the vote on third reading
may, pursuant to Standing Order 28(h), be deferred until the next
Sessional day during the Routine Proceeding "Deferred Votes";
and
That, in the case of any
division relating to any proceedings on the bill, the division
bell shall be limited to five minutes.
After some time, Mr. Bisson
moved,
Après quelque temps, M.
Bisson propose,
That the motion be amended by
striking out the third and fourth paragraphs of the motion as it
appears on the Orders and Notices Paper, and substituting the
following:
"At such time, the bill be
ordered referred to the Committee of the Whole House, and that 1
hour be allotted to this stage, at the expiry of which the Chair
of the Committee of the Whole House shall interrupt the
proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put
every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of
the bill and any amendments thereto and report the bill to the
House;
"That, upon receiving the report
of the Committee of the Whole House, the Speaker shall put the
question for adoption of the report forthwith, which question
shall be decided without debate or amendment and at such time the
bill shall be ordered for Third Reading;
"That the order for Third
Reading may immediately be called and that sixty minutes shall be
allotted to the Third Reading stage of the bill, to be divided
equally among all recognized parties, and at the end of that time
the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every
question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without
further debate or amendment; and"
The debate continued and, after
some time, the amendment to the motion, having been put, was lost
on the following division:-
Le débat se poursuit et
après quelque temps, l'amendement à la motion, mise aux
voix, est rejetée par le vote suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
25
Bisson
Boyer
Bradley
Brown
Caplan
Churley
Cordiano
Crozier
Di Cocco
Duncan
Gerretsen
Hampton
Hoy
Kormos
Levac
Marchese
Martel
McMeekin
Parsons
Patten
Peters
Phillips
Prue
Ruprecht
Sergio
NAYS / CONTRE -
45
Arnott
Baird
Barrett
Chudleigh
Clark
Clement
Coburn
Cunningham
DeFaria
Dunlop
Ecker
Elliott
Eves
Galt
Gilchrist
Gill
Hardeman
Hastings
Hodgson
Hudak
Jackson
Johns
Klees
Marland
Martiniuk
Maves
Mazzilli
McDonald
Miller
Molinari
Munro
Mushinski
Newman
O'Toole
Ouellette
Runciman
Spina
Sterling
Stewart
Stockwell
Tsubouchi
Wettlaufer
Witmer
Wood
Young
The main motion, having then
been put, was carried on the following division:-
La motion principale, après
avoir été mise aux voix, est adoptée par le vote
suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
44
Arnott
Baird
Barrett
Chudleigh
Clark
Clement
Coburn
Cunningham
DeFaria
Dunlop
Ecker
Elliott
Galt
Gilchrist
Gill
Hardeman
Hastings
Hodgson
Hudak
Jackson
Johns
Klees
Marland
Martiniuk
Maves
Mazzilli
McDonald
Miller
Molinari
Munro
Mushinski
Newman
O'Toole
Ouellette
Runciman
Spina
Sterling
Stewart
Stockwell
Tsubouchi
Wettlaufer
Witmer
Wood
Young
NAYS / CONTRE -
22
Bisson
Boyer
Bradley
Brown
Caplan
Churley
Cordiano
Crozier
Duncan
Gerretsen
Hoy
Kormos
Levac
Marchese
Martel
McMeekin
Parsons
Peters
Phillips
Prue
Ruprecht
Sergio
The House then adjourned at 6:15
p.m.
À 18 h 15, la chambre a
ensuite ajourné ses travaux.
6:45 P.M.
18 H 45
ORDERS OF THE
DAY
ORDRE DU JOUR
Debate was resumed on the motion
for Second Reading of Bill 58, An Act to amend certain statutes
in relation to the energy sector.
Le débat reprend sur la
motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 58, Loi
modifiant certaines lois en ce qui concerne le secteur de
l'énergie.
During the debate, the Acting
Speaker (Mr. Johnson) requested the Member for Peterborough, Mr.
Stewart to come to order.
Pendant le débat, le
Président par intérim, M. Johnson demande à
plusieurs reprises au député de Peterborough, M.
Stewart de se comporter.
The Member having refused was
named by the Acting Speaker and directed to withdraw from the
service of the House for the balance of the sessional
day.
Comme le député refuse
d'obéir, le Président par intérim le désigne
par son nom et l'ordonne de se retirer du service de
l'Assemblée pour le reste du jour de session.
During the debate, the Acting
Speaker (Mr. Johnson) requested the Member for Niagara Centre,
Mr. Kormos to come to order.
Pendant le débat, le
Président par intérim, M. Johnson demande à
plusieurs reprises au député de Niagara Centre, M.
Kormos de se comporter.
The Member having refused was
named by the Acting Speaker and directed to withdraw from the
service of the House for the balance of the sessional
day.
Comme le député refuse
d'obéir, le Président par intérim le désigne
par son nom et l'ordonne de se retirer du service de
l'Assemblée pour le reste du jour de session.
After some time, pursuant to
Standing Order 9(a), the motion for the adjournment of the debate
was deemed to have been made and carried.
Après quelque temps,
conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la
motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir
été proposée et adoptée.
The House then adjourned at 9:30
p.m.
À 21 h 30, la chambre a
ensuite ajourné ses travaux.
le président
GARY CARR
Speaker
PETITIONS TABLED PURSUANT TO
STANDING ORDER 38 (A)
Petition relating to Support for
publicly funded schools (Sessional Paper No. P-6) Mr.
Duncan.