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CITY OF TORONTO ACT, 1996 / LOI DE 1996 SUR LA CITÉ DE TORONTO
Report continued from volume J.
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CITY OF TORONTO ACT, 1996 / LOI DE 1996 SUR LA CITÉ DE TORONTO
Continuing consideration of Bill 103, An Act to replace the seven existing municipal governments of Metropolitan Toronto by incorporating a new municipality to be known as the City of Toronto / Projet de loi 103, Loi visant à remplacer les sept administrations municipales existantes de la communauté urbaine de Toronto en constituant une nouvelle municipalité appelée la cité de Toronto.
The First Deputy Chair (Ms Marilyn Churley): NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Columbine Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Columbine Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the amendment carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." All those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Columbus Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Columbus Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Colvestone Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Colvestone Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Colville Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Colville Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
Hon David Johnson (Chair of the Management Board of Cabinet, Government House Leader): Point of order, Madam Chair.
The First Deputy Chair: Government House leader, could you take your seat if you have a point of order, please.
Hon David Johnson: It's disappointing that I would have to rise on this point of order, but as you can plainly see --
The First Deputy Chair: I can't see. Can the members sit down.
Hon David Johnson: We just went through that discussion not an hour ago with regard to placards and sweatshirts etc, and then we see NDP emblazoned all over a box.
The First Deputy Chair: I didn't see it. I don't see it now. It is no longer in place. Thank you for pointing it out to me.
Interjections.
The First Deputy Chair: Member for Cochrane North, come to order.
Interjection.
The First Deputy Chair: Member for Sault Ste Marie, you're out of order.
Hon David Johnson: The member is asking me, Madam Chair, if each one of the 8,000 amendments --
The First Deputy Chair: No, you can't answer that question, government House leader. It was out of order. I'm sorry. Nice try.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Colwick Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Colwick Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Colwood Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Colwood Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Colwyn Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Colwyn Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Comay Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Comay Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Combe Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Combe Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Carried. I mean --
Interjection: -- said, "Carried."
Hon Janet Ecker (Minister of Community and Social Services): We said no.
The First Deputy Chair: I did not hear -- my mind has gone blank. Give me a moment here and let me have a sip of my warm water. I heard noes on the government side but I did not hear yes on the opposition side, so the amendment is defeated.
Mr Gilles Bisson (Cochrane South): There was a yes.
The First Deputy Chair: I didn't hear it.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Combermere Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Combermere Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Comet Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Comet Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
Mr David Christopherson (Hamilton Centre): On a point of order, Madam Chair: I would like to withdraw the next amendment, which refers to Commanda Lake.
The First Deputy Chair: Thank you, so withdrawn.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Commander Boulevard living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Commander Boulevard living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Commercial Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Commercial Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Commissioners Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Commissioners Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Commodore Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Commodore Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Commons Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Commons Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Commonwealth Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Commonwealth Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
Mr Bud Wildman (Algoma): This says just 17 days left.
The First Deputy Chair: That's out of order. Put it down.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Community Circle living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Community Circle living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
Mr Christopherson: On a point of order, Madam Chair: I would like to withdraw the next amendment that shows Compton Crescent in the short form.
The First Deputy Chair: The amendment will be withdrawn.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Compton Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Compton Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Compton Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Compton Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Comrie Terrace living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Comrie Terrace living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Comstock Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Comstock Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Conron Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Conron Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion, please say "aye." Those opposed, please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
Mr Christopherson: Point of order, Madam Chair: I'd like to withdraw the amendment that refers to Consilium Place, as it is a duplicate.
The First Deputy Chair: Okay, I will withdraw the amendment that says "Consilium Place."
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Consilium Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Consilium Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Constance Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Constance Street living in the urban area.'"
Mr Dan Newman (Scarborough Centre): On a point of order, Madam Chair: I just took a break for a couple of minutes and I was watching on television when the member for Hamilton Centre rose to withdraw an amendment, I believe it was. The box that's on his desk has the NDP markers on the back and the rear angle of the camera picks that up. I wanted to bring that to your attention, because I know you of all people would want to enforce the rules of this House --
The First Deputy Chair: Absolutely. That's my job here.
Mr Newman: -- and to ensure that that NDP marker is removed from the box.
The First Deputy Chair: Yes, that's correct. I would ask the member for Hamilton Centre to position the box. Either put it on the chair or turn it so that the NDP symbol cannot be seen by the camera.
Mr Wildman: If I could have an explanation of your ruling, this means that there's a demonstration on TV?
The First Deputy Chair: That's an interesting point. Let me confer with the table.
Although I don't think the Speaker specifically referred to TV cameras and the images projected on those, the spirit, and perhaps the words, although I don't have them in front of me, is that the members should not bring into the House any visible signs that can be seen as demonstration, so I am upholding the ruling that that would be considered as a demonstration in the Legislature and should be removed or placed out of sight.
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Mr Wildman: In respect of you personally and of your high office, Chair, we will not appeal your rulings.
The First Deputy Chair: Are we ready?
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Constance Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Constance Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Constellation Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Constellation Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the amendment carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Consumers Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Consumers Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Continental Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Continental Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Convair Drive East living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Convair Drive East living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Convent Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Convent Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Conway Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Conway Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
Mr Bisson: What is it about democracy that you guys don't like?
The First Deputy Chair: The member for Cochrane South come to order.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coolhurst Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coolhurst Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coolmine Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coolmine Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coopman Ptway living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coopman Ptway living in the urban area.'"
Does anyone know what the abbreviation "Ptway" stands for?
Hon Rob Sampson (Minister without Portfolio [Privatization]): Pathway.
The First Deputy Chair: Pathway. Thank you.
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coopman Ptway living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coopman Ptway living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
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The Chair (Mr Gilles E. Morin): NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Copeland Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Copeland Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coppermill Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coppermill Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." Those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Copperwood Square living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Copperwood Square living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Copping Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Copping Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Copthorne Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Copthorne Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the amendment carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coquette Road living in the urban area shall be
made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coquette Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cora Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cora Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coral Cove Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coral Cove Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coral Gable Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coral Gable Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corbett Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corbett Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corbridge Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions
Mr Christopherson: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I don't believe that a quorum is present.
The Chair: Would you please verify if we have a quorum.
Clerk at the Table (Mr Todd Decker): A quorum is present, Chair.
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The Chair: We will continue.
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corbridge Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corbridge Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry?
All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
NDP motion:
Interjection.
The Chair: If you want to converse with a colleague, do so outside the House.
Mr Gilles Pouliot (Lake Nipigon): I know it's Saturday night. The Speaker was talking about Lake Nipigon --
The Chair: Member for Lake Nipigon, I don't accept that. I simply don't.
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corby Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corby Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cordella Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cordella Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cordova Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cordova Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coreydale Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coreydale Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corinne Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corinne Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corinth Gardens living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corinth Gardens living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
Ms Annamarie Castrilli (Downsview): A point of privilege.
The Chair: It has to be a real point of privilege. Otherwise I will explain what it is.
Ms Castrilli: It is a real point of privilege. Pursuant to standing order 28(a), which says, "When a voice vote has been taken on any question, a division may be required by five members standing in their places," it is, as you know, due to an accident, not possible for me to stand in my place at every occasion. I don't ask for a ruling at this stage, but I wonder if you might consider that section and give me some advice as to what could be done, because I do think the privilege is breached.
The Chair: We'll get back on that. I can think of many solutions, but I want to be sure I give you the right one.
Ms Castrilli: That's fine, Chair. I don't require an immediate answer.
Mr Pouliot: On the same point, Chair: There is a human dimension attached to this. Obviously if someone from time to time is experiencing a condition which does not -- surely a reasonable alternative is that you can signal with your hand, for instance. This is not reinventing the atom, sir.
The Chair: That's what I just said. We'll find a solution and it will be agreeable to everyone.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corinthian Boulevard living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied'" -- the member for Lake Nipigon: If you want to hold a conversation, just cross the floor, go and talk to the minister, then you can come back to your seat.
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corinthian Boulevard living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cork Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cork Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corley Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corley Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corley Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corley Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
Mr Christopherson: On a point of order, Mr Chairman: To avoid duplication, I'd like to withdraw this particular amendment, as the only difference between this and the previous amendment is a different version of the abbreviation, so I would withdraw this amendment.
The Chair: Cornelius Parkway?
Mr Christopherson: Correct. There are two different versions. They have a different abbreviation and I am withdrawing the second one, as it would be a duplication and we don't want to have that.
The Chair: "I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cornelius Parkway living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cornelius Parkway living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public'" --
Mr Christopherson: On a point of order, Mr Chairman: Perhaps you can help me, Chair. I believe we've already done it once and my point was to pull out the second one.
The Chair: No, the one we did previous to that was Corley Avenue.
Mr Christopherson: Corley Avenue? And you didn't do Cornelius Parkway once?
The Chair: No.
Mr Christopherson: This is the first time. So the second one is the one that will be pulled, Chair.
The Chair: When you raised it on a point of order we hadn't done it yet, so we will withdraw the next one.
Mr Christopherson: Then it is this second one that reads P-k-y, as opposed to the first one which is P-k-w-y, that's withdrawn, so at the appropriate time --
The Chair: So P-k-w-y is withdrawn?
Mr Christopherson: P-k-w-y is kept. Actually, it doesn't matter which one, as long as one of them is withdrawn, Chair.
The Chair: Normally, it's P-k-w-y. I read it properly anyway.
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cornelius Parkway living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
Ms Castrilli: May I argue my point of privilege again and demand an immediate answer?
The Chair: Order. I'd like to have your attention for a minute. Yes, we had a point of privilege. Maybe some of the members were not here at that time. The member for Downsview, Mrs Castrilli, has a leg that needs to be cared for. It's difficult for her to get up. The only solution would be for her to raise her hand, but it's only for her. The name of anyone who is sitting and wants to raise their hand, I won't count that. It's only for her. She's allowed to raise her hand. I ask for unanimous consent. Is it agreed? Agreed. It only applies for her, just to raise her hand. Thank you.
Mr Tony Clement (Brampton South): You are a distinct society. Congratulations.
Ms Castrilli: I'm indebted to the House. Thank you very much.
The Chair: Thank you. I believe it was done in excellent spirit. I will continue.
Mr Bill Murdoch (Grey-Owen Sound): Any time the Liberals want to help.
The Chair: The member for Grey-Owen Sound, the matter has been settled.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cornell Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cornell Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
Interjection: Dispense.
The Chair: Dispense? Dispense.
Mr Christopherson: No, of course not.
The Chair: It was said "dispense" and I said "dispense" and you responded after I said dispense, and that was it, so it's dispense.
NDP motion:
Mr Bisson: A point of order: Mr Chair I agree that you properly ruled, that you can dispense with the reading, but you still have to call for the vote on the amendment.
Mr Christopherson: That's right. All they wanted was a dispensing of the reading, now we've got to vote.
The Chair: All those in favour will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corning Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corning Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corningham Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corningham Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cornish Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cornish Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cornwall Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cornwall Street living in the urban area.
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"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
The Acting Chair (Mr Bruce Crozier): An NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cornwallis Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cornwallis Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The amendment shall be deferred.
Mr Bisson: Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of privilege: Last night in this chamber, I guess somewhere around 3 o'clock yesterday morning, we were in the process of voting on or having amendments read such as what you're doing right now and I want to bring it to your attention, because this is the first time I've seen you since you arrived here, since last night the member for Scarborough East on a number of occasions through the reading of the amendments, whenever it came to the point of the government member having to vote no as they've been doing on these amendments, kept on referring to these amendments as "Crozier motions".
The Acting Chair: What's the point of privilege?
Mr Bisson: The point of privilege I rise on, Mr Chair, is, as you know, the standing orders are quite explicit, that members of this chamber are not to impute motive and are not to engage in calling members by names or --
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Order. It's my understanding that this was ruled on last night, this point of privilege.
Mr Bisson: But, Chair, I want to raise it because it is the first time that you have been here and I want to make sure you are aware that the members here were treating you without respect. I think that quite frankly that is not in order in this chamber, that we should always be treating all Chairs with respect in this chamber.
The Acting Chair: I thank the member, but that has been dealt with.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corona Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corona Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the amendment carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion will be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Order. Will the minister come to order.
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coronado Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coronado Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion shall be deferred.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coronation Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coronation Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
Mr Christopherson: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I wish to withdraw this particular amendment, as it's dealt with in the next amendment and we don't want duplication.
Hon David H. Tsubouchi (Minister of Consumer and Commercial Relations): On a point of order, Mr Chair: Earlier on in the day I made a similar request of the sitting Chair. The honourable members, when they are withdrawing various amendments, could certainly assist us -- and they had agreed at the time; the House leader was there -- by allowing us to know what the name of the street or the location is when they are withdrawing the amendment, and they had agreed to that at that time. It really helps us a bit in keeping our notes.
The Acting Chair: I understand that commitment was made, Minister. If you could mention the name of the street, then, in withdrawing.
Mr Christopherson: Certainly. I'd be pleased to. The amendment that I'm withdrawing refers to Coronet and then goes on. The amendment following says, more appropriately, Coronet Road.
The Acting Chair: Thank you. That is withdrawn.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coronet Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coronet Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corporate Drive'" --
Mr Bisson: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I note that we're on the amendment of Corporate Drive, and I'm wondering if that's an indication that the government will be supporting this amendment, because they're always in the back pockets of their corporate friends.
The Acting Chair: That's not a point of order. Please take your seat.
"`Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corporate Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corporate Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Order. Can I have order, please. Will the members come to order. Member for Cochrane South, please come to order.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cortland Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cortland Avenue living in the urban area.'"
Interjection.
The Acting Chair: Will the minister please come to order.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.'"
Mr Bisson: On a point of privilege, Mr Chair: It is always a tradition in this House, whenever a former member is here visiting us, that we acknowledge that. I would acknowledge, in the west gallery, Oduardo Di Santo, the former member for Downsview, who is here visiting us today.
The Acting Chair: "`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended'" --
Mr Frank Klees (York-Mackenzie): Dispense.
The Acting Chair: -- "`by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation'"
Mr Klees: Dispense.
The Acting Chair: "`(4) Despite subsection (1)'" --
Mr Klees: Dispense.
The Acting Chair: Dispense? No.
-- "`living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cortleigh Boulevard living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
Mr Klees: On a point of order, Mr Chair: At the outset of you reading this particular amendment, I said "Dispense" on three occasions. Now, the first two times, I believe as the record would show, you did not respond. My question to you is, did you not hear those first two times when I said "Dispense," or were you ignoring me?
The Acting Chair: When I heard "Dispense," I then asked the question of "Dispense?"
Mr Klees: And so for the first two times, Mr Chair, you did not hear me, although I did say it quite clearly?
The Acting Chair: The first time I heard you say "Dispense," I said "Dispense?"
Mr Klees: And so there were clearly two times, I believe as the record would show, when I said very clearly, "Dispense." My question to you, Mr Chair, is, is it possible that, just as you did not hear my two times when I called "Dispense" today, perhaps you also did not hear the two members of this House who yesterday, when you ruled that you did not hear them say "No" -- is it possible that you did not hear the two members who clearly said in this House that they said "No"?
Interjections.
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The Acting Chair: Order. For the record, yesterday the ruling of the Chair was challenged. The Speaker reviewed that challenge and I think his words were very clearly that, as I had reported to him, the "No" I heard was after I had said "Carried." That matter has then been dealt with.
Mr Klees: Yes, but my point of order specifically --
The Acting Chair: Your point of order has been dealt with. To the member, with all due respect, I've dealt with your point of order. If you have anything new to add to it, why, feel free.
Mr Klees: I would like to add something new, because I'm not sure that you understood my point of order.
The Acting Chair: Yesterday's business is done. If you want to deal with the "Dispense" that you had today and have anything to add to it, I'd take it under consideration.
Mr Klees: So clearly, then, with regard to today's business and the issue of "Dispense," you did admit clearly that you did not hear my first two requests for a dispense. Is that correct?
The Acting Chair: No, I did not. I said that the first "Dispense" I heard, I then responded to it.
Mr Klees: So there were clearly two requests for a dispense that you did not hear, Mr Chair.
Mr Bisson: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Standing orders 13(a) and (b) are in my view quite clear. When a Speaker or a Chair makes a decision -- in this case if we make a decision chaired by the committee of the whole -- we are able, as members, to appeal that decision to the Speaker. Clearly yesterday your decision was challenged. The Speaker reviewed it and upheld your decision.
The point of order I'm making is that the decision now being made, this member is now trying to circumvent the process and to rechallenge the decision of the Chair. The standing orders are quite clear that you cannot --
The Acting Chair: To the member for Cochrane South, the Chair would appreciate it if -- I don't believe you have a point of order. That's been dealt with and you are just prolonging it, I think. I don't think it's helpful.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cortleigh Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cortleigh Crescent living in the urban area.'"
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This shall be deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corton Gate living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corton Gate living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
Interjections.
Mr Pouliot: Mr Speaker, you are surrounded by cattle. Listen to them.
Mr Clement: On a point of privilege, Mr Chair: The member has referred to members of this House as "cattle." I demand that he withdraw it, sir.
Interjection.
Mr Clement: Mr Chair, he has referred to members of this House as "vultures." I demand that he retract it, sir.
The Acting Chair: I'll give the opportunity to the member to withdraw. It's unparliamentary.
Mr Pouliot: I will indeed, Mr Speaker, and I thank you.
Mr Jim Flaherty (Durham Centre): On a point of privilege, Mr Chair: The same member just used the term "cattle," referring to the members also. He should withdraw that as well.
The Acting Chair: I'll give the member the opportunity to withdraw.
Mr Pouliot: Well, given the size of the herd, I might be here for a long time. I will withdraw that word.
The Acting Chair: I would ask the member, give him the opportunity to withdraw. You can help the proceedings by withdrawing.
Mr Pouliot: I will withdraw.
The Acting Chair: NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corundum Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corundum Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corvette Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corvette Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:" --
Mr Pouliot: On a point of order, Mr Chair: With respect, I do not believe that the House is duly constituted. A quorum call, please.
The Acting Chair: Is there a quorum?
Mrs Helen Johns (Huron): It's because there are only two NDP in the House. It's your amendments. There are only two people here.
The Acting Chair: Order.
Acting Clerk Assistant (Ms Tonia Grannum): A quorum is not present, Chair.
The Acting Chair ordered the bells rung.
Acting Clerk Assistant: A quorum is present, Chair.
The Acting Chair: A quorum is present and I'd appreciate order.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corvus Starway living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:'" --
Mr Bisson: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Would that be Cormos Starway or Corvus Starway?
The Acting Chair: Corvus Starway, spelled c-o-r-v-u-s.
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corvus Starway living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote shall be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corwin Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corwin Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:"
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Order. I tell the members of the House that it's your time. Minister, would you like to come to order. Will you come to order, please.
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Corylus Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Corylus Court living in the urban area.'"
Would the member take his seat and come to order, please. I'm asking the member to take his seat and come to order. Take a seat.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given."
Mr Bisson: On a point of order, Mr Chair: If you can help me, you're on Corylus. Have we already gone through Corwin Crescent? I seem to have missed it. You probably have and I missed it.
The Acting Chair: I'll have the table check. Corwin Crescent, yes, we've already gone through that.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Order. Will the members come to order. This goes much more smoothly if the members will come to order.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Will the members come to order. It's your time.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given'" --
Would the minister come to order. Would the member for Cochrane South come to order. Order. Minister, will you come to order. Will the member from Ottawa come to order.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: The member from Nipigon, come to order. The member for Brampton South, would you come to order. Will the minister come to order. Will the member come to order.
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Mrs Johns: You mortgaged my kids so they're never going to be able to live in the province.
Mr Pouliot: I don't even know your children, how could I mortgage them?
The Acting Chair: Order. The Chair is quite willing to control it if the members will simply come to order and we can get on with these motions.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: The member for Cochrane South and the member from Nipigon, Lake Nipigon, I've asked you repeatedly if you'll come to order, and I think in deference to the Chair that you should do that so we can get on with business. Thank you.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed will please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cosburn Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cosburn Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Are you standing to defer the vote?
Mr Bisson: Divide first, then a point of order.
The Acting Chair: This motion shall be deferred. Point of order.
Mr Bisson: The next amendment is Cosburn Avenue, which is a duplicate of the previous, and I would like to withdraw it.
The Acting Chair: This will be withdrawn.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Members come to order. Members, I know this is long and arduous but if you come to order we can get through it.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cosentino Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cosentino Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cosmic Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cosmic Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion shall be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cosmo Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cosmo Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the meeting.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion shall be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Costain Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Costain Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion shall be deferred.
1900
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cosway Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cosway Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion shall be deferred.
An NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cotillion Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cotillion Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion shall be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cotman Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cotman Crescent living in the urban area.'"
Mr Tom Froese (St Catharines-Brock): Dispense.
The Acting Chair: Dispense? No.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain'" --
Mr Bisson: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I believe we don't have a quorum.
The Acting Chair: Is there a quorum?
Clerk at the Table (Ms Lisa Freedman): A quorum is not present, Chair.
The Acting Chair ordered the bells rung.
Acting Clerk Assistant: A quorum is present, Chair.
The Acting Chair: If the members will come to order, we can continue.
"` -- without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4'" --
Minister and the member on this side, if you'd like to carry on a conversation, you can do it outside and enjoy it.
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion shall be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cotswold Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner'" --
Mr Newman: Dispense.
The Acting Chair: Dispense? No.
-- "`that will come to the attention of the residents of Cotswold Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The motion shall be deferred.
1910
The Second Deputy Chair (Mr Bert Johnson): We have an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cotteswood Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cotteswood Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cottingham Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cottingham Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cottingham Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cottingham Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cotton Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cotton Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cotton Down Way'" -- the Chair recognizes the member for Cochrane South.
Mr Bisson: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I realize you were reading very quickly through this amendment, but you failed to mention a couple of key parts of the amendment.
The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry, what did I miss?
Mr Bisson: After the first sentence, "I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection," you didn't read the "public consultation." I'd like that to be in the record.
The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, that is a point of order. I asked about that some time ago, two or three days ago, because I was reading these -- and I am trying to expedite them, you're absolutely right -- but I asked about that, and I was told that the public consultation wording in there is, in fact, one of those things that goes in the margins that the lawyers later on can put in or out or do whatever they want with. I was told I didn't have to read it, so I don't.
If you'd like to appeal my ruling, that is my ruling. It is a point of order, but I don't have to read it, so -- occasionally, my mistake, I will read it. So, if you want, I'll have to have it taken out of the record or whatever.
Mr Bisson: It is just that, Speaker, you had read it for the last three amendments and this time I thought you had forgotten, and I wouldn't want you to make a mistake.
The Second Deputy Chair: If I make a mistake, if you bring it to my attention, I'll do everything in my power to correct it.
Mr Bisson: Well, I really appreciate that, Speaker. We're starting off on a good foot, you and I, today.
The Second Deputy Chair: I'm not sure about that.
-- "`living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:'" --
I'm in jest, and I apologize.
Mr Bisson: That wouldn't be nice to do that, because you are my friend.
The Second Deputy Chair: We are both members of this Legislature and I have a job to do and part of my job is to move on and reading these several motions and so on. I realize that it may be your duty to slow it down as much as possible and on the other side, of course, they would like to speed it up and dispense with everything, and we're kind of taking the middle road. I'm sure you wouldn't want to obstruct me in getting my work done. Fine. I do apologize for making that comment in jest. I withdraw it and I take it back.
Mr Bisson: I understand. Thank you very much.
The Second Deputy Chair: I'm going to start off where I stopped:
-- "`living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cotton Down Way living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister'" --
The Chair recognizes the member for Lake Nipigon, on a point of order? Oh, I'm sorry. I heard you speaking and I also was hearing myself speaking and I thought I would stop because one of us was obviously in error. I will start up where I left off:
-- "`has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cottonwood Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cottonwood Drive in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
1920
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cottrelle Gate living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cottrelle Gate living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cougar Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cougar Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coules Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coules Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coulson Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coulson Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of the committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coulter Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coulter Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
I assume that somebody is looking into that noise.
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Council Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Council Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Country Club Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Country Club Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.'"
Mr Bisson: Point of order, Chair.
The Second Deputy Chair: "`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held'" --
Mr Bisson: Point of order, Chair. Yoo-hoo, Bert. Point of order.
The Second Deputy Chair:-- "`and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.'"
The Chair recognizes the member for Cochrane South on a point of order.
Mr Bisson: Thank you very much. Can you tell me what amendment you're on, because I think there's a mistake here.
The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, I'm sorry if I made a mistake. I'm on Country Club Drive.
Mr Bisson: Country Club Drive. Is it possible you've read the same amendment twice?
The Second Deputy Chair: Yes. I could have made any number of mistakes. I'm fallible.
Mr Bisson: Can you doublecheck? You might have read it twice.
The Second Deputy Chair: How many should I take back? Just the last one, two, three or the last 800 or 900?
Mr Bisson: There should be one Country Club Drive amendment, and either you've read it twice or I've moved the paper incorrectly.
The Second Deputy Chair: The last one was Council Crescent.
Interjections.
Mr Bisson: Pardon? I didn't hear it with the heckling, Speaker. Sorry.
The Second Deputy Chair: The last one I read was Council Crescent.
Mr Bisson: Then I stand corrected, Speaker. You were probably on the right amendment.
The Second Deputy Chair: I can understand that. I've made mistakes too in my lifetime. Now are we ready to proceed?
Mr Bisson: I didn't hear that.
The Second Deputy Chair: You were standing on a point of order. That was a point of order, and I think that I ruled on it. Now you're still standing, and I'm wondering why.
Mr Bisson: Which part of --
The Second Deputy Chair: Member for Cochrane South, I don't want to be trifling. I don't want to make a mockery of it. You have a problem that I don't have, and I want to get it settled and straightened out.
Mr Bisson: If we can clarify, because I believed you had read the same amendment twice, and obviously I was in error and you were not, and that's where we're at.
The Second Deputy Chair: No. If I make any mistakes, please let me know.
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Hon Mr Tsubouchi: Mr Chair, on a point of order: I just want to draw to your attention that when the member for Cochrane South was addressing the Chair, he addressed him by his first name when he was calling him, and I don't think it's very appropriate for this chamber.
The Second Deputy Chair: If he did, and he may have, I'm sure that he'll withdraw that --
Mr Bisson: I will, Speaker. I was trying to get your attention. You weren't responding to "Chair," so I tried "Yoo-hoo, Bert." I apologize. I shouldn't have done that.
The Second Deputy Chair: I'm very, very sorry. If I didn't hear anything, I'll correct it and go back, and if there's anything I can do to fix that up --
Mr Bisson: I won't use "Yoo-hoo, Bert" any more. I'll use "A Chair." Thank you.
The Second Deputy Chair: "A Chair." I'll take that in the very best sense.
I left off at the word "hearing."
Mr Klees: On a point of order, Mr Chair: In the interests of this House, I think it's very important that we note that the member for Cochrane South just reminded you that he spoke a number of times to get your attention and you didn't hear him. I'd like to point out that in this chamber it's very possible for members to try to get the attention of the Chair and for the Chair not to hear them. I think it goes back to the point yesterday when in fact there were two members in this House who made the statement that they voted no and were not heard by the Chair presiding at the time. I think it's very important that that be recognized.
The Second Deputy Chair: That is a point of order, but it has been ruled on. I would like to proceed.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of the committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Country Lane living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied'" --
Mr Bisson: On a point of order, Chair: I believe in reading the amendment, this present amendment, on the first line of (4) you read, "Despite subsection (1), no regulation may." You missed "that," and I would like "that" to appear on the record.
The Second Deputy Chair: I'll try my very best to correct any mistakes that I make, and if I left out the word "that," then I -- do you want me to read it over again? I'll just instruct that it be put in. Okay?
Mr Bisson: Thank you very much, Chair.
The Second Deputy Chair: I left off with "satisfied."
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Country Lane living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.'"
Mr Froese: Dispense.
The Second Deputy Chair: I was asked to seek unanimous consent to dispense. I hear "No." I will proceed.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of the committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Countryman Cir living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Countryman Cir living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered'" --
Mr Bisson: On a point of order, Mr Chair: On this particular amendment, you read "Countryman Cir." Did you mean that as sir, s-i-r or Cir, C-i-r.
The Second Deputy Chair: C-i-r.
Mr Bisson: Thank you very much. We want to make sure of that. Otherwise, it would show as s-i-r, and I didn't want to get it wrong.
The Second Deputy Chair: Were you on a point of order?
Mr Bisson: Yes. You can correct it.
The Second Deputy Chair: That is a point of order.
-- "all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This motion is deferred.
This is an NDP motion.
Interjections.
The Second Deputy Chair: Would the member for Lake Nipigon, the member for Simcoe Centre come to order, please.
If it's all right, I'd like to proceed.
Interjection: Dispense.
The Second Deputy Chair: I've been given a request to seek unanimous consent to dispense. There is no unanimous consent. I'd like to proceed.
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Courage Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Courage Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Interjection.
The Second Deputy Chair: Order. The member for Lake Nipigon. I'm addressing the member for Lake Nipigon. I'm having difficulty hearing everything I should. I seek the help of the people at the table. If I miss something, they can help me and bring my attention to it, but it's very difficult when somebody is talking. If you have to talk, would you please go over to the person you're talking with, sit down and do it in a low voice so it doesn't obstruct me.
I finished the word "sent," s-e-n-t. I want to ask this committee if it's their wish that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
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This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Courcelette Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Courcelette Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Courton Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Courton Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Courtney Park Drive living in the urban area" --
Interjection: Dispense.
The Second Deputy Chair: I've had a request to seek unanimous consent to dispense. There is no unanimous consent.
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Courtney Park Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Hon Mr Sampson: Courtney Park Drive is in Mississauga. I'm wondering whether I can inquire from the NDP whether they're encouraging that Mississauga now be merged with the city of Toronto. Is that part of their amendment? I thought people were against the largest city, but clearly they're asking that these two cities be merged.
The Second Deputy Chair: I'd like to address the member for Mississauga Centre on that point of order. It's not a point of order.
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Courtlands Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Courtlands Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Courtsfield Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Courtsfield Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion.
It's right in my sight lines and I'm afraid I'm going to stop partway through, because I don't always hear you and you're standing. I'll be thinking that you're rising on a point. Can I have your assurance you're not going to rise on a point of order within the next three or four paragraphs anyway?
Mr Bisson: I can guarantee you, unless there is a big error, I will not be rising on a point of order. I'm just standing here.
The Second Deputy Chair: If I make an error, I know that you will be correcting me, and I wouldn't want it any other way.
I'll read it all over again.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Courtwood Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied'" --
Interjection.
The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I'm sorry. I don't want to go on about this, but the member for Lake Nipigon is in the same sight line as the member for Cochrane South. I see somebody standing, I hear somebody talking and it's very disturbing. It's upsetting to me. It almost verges on being irritating.
Mr Flaherty: Sit down or leave.
The Second Deputy Chair: No, I want to be very clear about this. I don't mind the member for Cochrane South standing; he has that right. But it's when I have the same sight line between a person talking and a person standing, I have to both hear and see, and I'm trying to read this as well. I want to expedite this and get these --
Interjections.
The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I want to be very clear about this. These motions would not be before this committee if they weren't very, very important. This is the Ontario Legislature and the most important work in the whole of the province is done here, so let us be serious. Let's not be trivial, let's not be trifling, let's not make a mockery. Let's get down and do the work that is before us.
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"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Courtwood Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1)" -- the Chair recognizes the minister from Markham on a point of order.
Hon Mr Tsubouchi: I was just wondering, on the last vote or division, whether the member for Cochrane South was merely standing, or was he voting? His explanation before, as he is now, is he's merely standing. Was he voting or merely standing?
The Second Deputy Chair: That is a point of order. There were five members standing besides him, so it was superfluous.
Interjection: He certainly is superfluous.
The Second Deputy Chair: No, not "he," "it."
I'd finished off at the colon after "satisfied."
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Courtwright Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given." Period.
Interjections.
The Second Deputy Chair: I'm marking my place. I want to be very clear on this. I need order and attention. When I'm going through, I have 249 words, I have some 23 punctuation marks, and I have 50 numbers. I have to do them on each one of these. I think I should be able to do one a minute -- it's only 60 seconds -- and I have never achieved that yet. I don't set that as a goal for myself, but I have to have order and decorum in this House.
Hon David Johnson: Mr Chair, could I add that through all of those words and punctuation marks and numbers, you do a fabulous job.
The Second Deputy Chair: I do appreciate that, Minister, but it is my job just to do this as carefully and as fairly and as equitably as I can.
Interjections.
The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I left off at the period after "given" in the second paragraph.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Courville Coachway living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied'" --
Interjection.
The Second Deputy Chair: The member for Cochrane South, I think that I'm a very, very patient man. Out of courtesy I've let you stand in your place, and you continue to talk. I've been accused of not recognizing you when you want to stand on a point of order. I'm afraid that I will have to ask either that you don't talk or that you don't stand.
Mr Bisson: What was I saying?
The Second Deputy Chair: I have absolutely no idea. I left off at the colon after "satisfied."
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Courville Coachway living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Deferred vote.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect'" --
What I have before me is the amendment for Cove Drive. I have made a mark where I've stopped after the word "affect," and there's a mark on this very similar to the ones I make when I'm interrupted, but it's already on here after the colon after "satisfied." The only reason I bring this to the attention of this committee is that I try to be accurate. If at some time I come up against this again, I guess I won't be able to guarantee that the mark is the one where I stopped. It's not part of the original amendment because it's in blue ink and it's very similar to mine, and I know it's not mine because I haven't gotten as far as that. I stopped when I saw it.
-- "`the residents of Cove Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cove Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this commmittee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coventry Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coventry Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing'" --
Are you on a point of order?
Mr Bisson: No.
The Second Deputy Chair: I've said once before that out of courtesy I've let you stand, but I can't have you standing and talking at the same time. Either I have to stop and ask you if it's a point of order --
Mr Bisson: You're doing a fine job anyway.
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The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry. These are very serious amendments. If they weren't serious, you wouldn't have brought them to the attention of this House, I'm sure. I don't want you to make this a mockery or make this frivolous.
I stopped after "hearing" in the fourth paragraph.
-- "`in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
An NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coverdale Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coverdale Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.'"
"`5. The notice under'" --
The member for Cochrane South, you're standing and you're talking and I don't know whether you have a point of order.
Mr Klees: And the Minister of Health.
The Second Deputy Chair: Well, he's not in his place and I wouldn't recognize him if he weren't in his place.
I think we're going to have to change this a little bit. You're going to have to stay in your seats.
I left off after the word "under" in the fifth paragraph, right before the word "paragraph."
"` -- paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
An NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Covewood Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Covewood Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
Mr Klees: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I believe there are only six members standing, so I don't believe that you can call for a deferred vote.
The Second Deputy Chair: I only need five. I try to do the best I can. It's a very difficult job. Imperfect as it is, I try, but I appreciate the help.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Covington Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Covington Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cowan Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cowan Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cowan's Bay living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cowan's Bay living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cowdray Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cowdray Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
2010
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cowley Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cowley Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coxwell Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coxwell Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
Mr Rosario Marchese (Fort York): On a point of order, Mr Chair: With respect to the next motion, I would like to withdraw it -- it is a duplicate -- the one that reads "Coxwell Avenue."
The Second Deputy Chair: Sorry. Did you ask that it be withdrawn?
Mr Marchese: I ask that it be withdrawn, Mr Chair.
The Second Deputy Chair: It's done.
Mr Marchese: I would like to withdraw the following motion that has the designation of "Coxwell Bl." By way of explanation, the one that follows is much clearer, in terms of saying "boulevard," than this one.
The Second Deputy Chair: These names then are the same street?
Mr Marchese: I believe this is a duplicate of the other so I'm withdrawing this one.
The Second Deputy Chair: This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation'" --
The member for Dovercourt. I had problems a little while ago with people standing and talking. I guess what I'm saying is that one isn't all that bad, under the conditions we are in, but when you do both -- I have a very difficult job. I'm trying to read, I'm trying to hear, I'm trying to see when people rise on points of order. If you're standing, please don't talk, and if you're talking, please don't stand unless you want my attention. Does that make any sense?
Mr Tony Silipo (Dovercourt): On a point of order, Mr Chair: I appreciate the full explanation because at the beginning of your point I thought you were indicating that it was difficult for members to talk and stand at the same time. That's something I think I am capable of doing, but I appreciate your point. I was simply at that point indicating that I wanted you to read the amendment.
The Second Deputy Chair: I don't want to be trifling or anything. I want to be very serious about it. I know you wouldn't have brought these in front of us if they weren't serious amendments. I'm trying to do the best job I can, but I want to emphasize that I'm reading a motion that consists of about 249 words, about 23 numbers and about 50 punctuation marks and I'm trying to do it accurately and to the best of my knowledge. Actually, I've made mistakes, heaven knows I've made a lot of mistakes, and I appreciate anybody who brings them to my attention when I do. I don't mean to lecture, I don't want to be that way, but when you're standing and talking -- I want to say this to the member for Dovercourt. I have a lot of respect for you in this House. If I've said anything that would indicate that those two -- you're a very bright and able representative of your riding and I want to make that clear.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coxwell Boulevard living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coxwell Boulevard living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
If there is a conversation that has to be made, if you'd go to the far end where it doesn't bother me, and maybe in the centre thing, then I know you're not standing on a point of order.
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
Interjection.
The Second Deputy Chair: There may be somebody standing in the way whom you cannot see, but I saw five counting Mr Kwinter, the member for Wilson Heights. He's a little bit behind another member, but I saw him. I make mistakes and I want you to bring them up when I do, but that was not one of them.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Coxworth Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Coxworth Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
2020
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crab Appleway living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crab Appleway living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
Mr Marchese: On a point of order, Mr Chairman: I'd like to withdraw this motion. Although it has a different spelling, we believe it's the same street: Crab Apple Way. It appears it's a duplicate, so I'd like to withdraw that.
The Second Deputy Chair: Crab Apple Way is withdrawn.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craggview Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craggview Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Order. Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cragmuir Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cragmuir Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craig Alan Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craig Alan Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craig Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craig Crescent living in the urban area.'"
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craighurst Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craighurst Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craiglee Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craiglee Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion --
Mr Marchese: On a point of order, Mr Chairman: I'd like to withdraw the motion that reads, "residents of Craigleith." It has no other designation after that, so in order to make it easier for us to deal with, we would like to withdraw it.
The Second Deputy Chair: This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection" -- you're following this?
Interjection.
The Second Deputy Chair: Good, because then I know who to ask if I make a mistake.
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craigmont Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craigmont Drive living in the urban area.'"
Order. If it's necessary to carry on conversations, just do it at a little lower tone or remove yourselves from the chamber, please.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
2030
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craigmore Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craigmore Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craigton Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craigton Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craik Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craik Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craketts Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craketts Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cramond Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cramond Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
Mr Marchese: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I would like to withdraw this motion that reads "residents of Cranberry Island". We believe that to be a mistake so we're withdrawing that.
The Second Deputy Chair: I understand. I make more of them than most.
Mr Sean G. Conway (Renfrew North): It must have come up from Mike Harris's old list: Calvin Lake, Abbott Lake --
The Second Deputy Chair: I don't mind that. I like lakes. It's wet, it's soothing. We both wish we were beside one.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cranborne Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cranborne Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cranbrooke Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cranbrooke Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crandall Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crandall Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
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This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crane Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crane Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been made'" --
Mr Marchese: It's number 3, Chair.
The Second Deputy Chair: I left off after the word "been" in paragraph 3.
Mr Marchese: You read all of number 2 and you're now at number 3.
The Second Deputy Chair: I have marked after the word "been" that's halfway through the third paragraph.
Mr Marchese: Mr Chair, I follow you very closely and you finished 2 and you're now at number 3. You might check with the Clerk.
The Second Deputy Chair: You're rising on a point of order, I assume. Would you like me to treat it that way?
Mr Marchese: Just to be helpful to you, Mr Chair, obviously.
The Second Deputy Chair: I have other things that would help you follow a little better, I guess. I can make a mistake, but I did check with the table and they say I left off after the word "been" halfway through the third paragraph. You can appeal that ruling but that is my ruling.
Mr Marchese: No, no. It's all right.
The Second Deputy Chair: I'll start off with the word "held" -- "held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public'" --
Interjection.
The Second Deputy Chair: Order, please. I need quietness here because we're having difficulty corresponding. There are some people who can't hear me reading this and they're losing places, they're getting lost. I have to have quiet.
Under subparagraph ii of paragraph 5, I left off after the word "public." You're following along.
Interjections.
The Second Deputy Chair: Order. Those kind of comments don't help the work of this House get on. We have 11,500 of these to read into the record so we can't be trifling about this at all.
I left off after the word "public" in subparagraph ii of paragraph 5.
-- "`where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
Mr Marchese: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I believe the government members who were here the last session would appreciate this, but I think it's a mistake. The one that reads "residents of Crane Lake," I would like to withdraw this one.
The Second Deputy Chair: That is a point of order and it's done.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1)'" --
Mr Marchese: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I was distracted by the other members for a brief moment. I would like unanimous consent, since you've started, to withdraw this one as well. It's Crane Lake as well.
The Second Deputy Chair: Crane Lake? It is done. That is a point of order. I appreciate that, member for Fort York, because sometimes I get distracted myself.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1) no regulation that may affect the residents of Cranfield Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cranfield Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crang Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crang Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cranleigh Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cranleigh Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cranston Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cranston Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cranston Manor Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cranston Manor Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cranston Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cranston Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craven Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craven Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
Mr Marchese: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I'm very familiar with this street. I would like to withdraw this motion. This says "the residents of Crawford." The following motion indicates the street and that is the appropriate one. Thank you.
The Second Deputy Chair: That is a point of order and it's done.
Mr Bart Maves (Niagara Falls): On a similar point of order, Mr Chair: I would request unanimous consent to withdraw not only that amendment but all other amendments with the same wording but with a different street.
The Second Deputy Chair: Is there unanimous consent to withdraw the rest of this -- no. There is not unanimous consent so it will not be done.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crawford Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crawford Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all'" --
Interjections.
The Second Deputy Chair: Order. I need quietness. I'm trying to recognize, I'm trying to keep track of things: points of order, people standing up talking, and so on, so I'll have to have a little better attention. I'm sorry, where did I leave off? Just a minute, he'll know. The member for Fort York, where did I leave off?
Mr Marchese: Number 2, Mr Chair. You were starting number 2.
The Second Deputy Chair: Starting two?
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Craydon Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Craydon Avenue'" --
Interjection.
The Second Deputy Chair: I'm sorry, is there unanimous consent to withdraw this? No. I'm sorry, there's not unanimous consent to withdraw this.
Mr Marchese: It's in order.
The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I heard somebody request unanimous consent. I'm sorry, I can make mistakes. I'm trying to expedite things and I apologize. I thought I heard it. It may have been from this side and it wouldn't have gotten down that far.
I left off after Craydon Avenue in paragraph one.
-- "`living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crayford Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crayford Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Credit Union Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Credit Union Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material -- '"
The Chair recognizes the member for Welland Thorold on a point of order.
Interjection.
The Second Deputy Chair: Oh, I'm sorry. You're standing and I thought I heard talking so I just thought you had a point of order. I'm sorry.
Interjection.
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The Second Deputy Chair: No, it's all right. No, I'm not saying don't stand. What I'm saying is that when you're standing and when I hear something, sometimes I think people are trying to get my attention. I did overlook somebody earlier this evening and I apologize. I may make more mistakes.
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation'" --
Interjection: We're following you, Chair.
The Second Deputy Chair: I'm not worried about you; you are doing a fantastic job. I was worried about you being distracted and me being distracted. I left off at:
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crediton Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crediton Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cree Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cree Avenue living in the urban area.
"`The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
I'm sorry; I want to address the member for Dovercourt. I had told you before when you were in the House that I would read the numbers in front of the paragraphs. If that's still all right, then I'll have to have your attention, or else there's no sense in me going through that extra -- or, if it's all right, I'll stop that. It's five extra words.
Mr Silipo: No, I'd appreciate your continuing to read that.
The Second Deputy Chair: You would like that? Okay. As a courtesy, I will do that.
I've finished the word "sent." We're ready to vote. Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Creekside Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Creekside Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Creekwood Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Creekwood Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cremorne Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cremorne Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crenbeck Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crenbeck Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the request of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crendon Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crendon Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
I hope I'm not stumbling too much. The air is dry in here.
Interjection: You're doing very well, Mr Chair.
Mr Marchese: We have fewer distractions, Mr Chair. It's working out very well.
The Second Deputy Chair: Yes, actually. Each one I read is fewer that I have to.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crescent Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crescent Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
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Mr Monte Kwinter (Wilson Heights): On a point of order, Mr Chair: Just as a technicality, just so the record shows, only when you get halfway through the total list will you have fewer to read than you have to go. Right now you have far more to go than you have read. I just wanted to correct you.
The Second Deputy Chair: I took my philosophy from my father's side, and I prefer to look at it the other way.
Interjections.
The Second Deputy Chair: Order, please, and I apologize for my demeanour, my behaviour. I've made side comments and I shouldn't, and I apologize. This is serious business and I don't want to trivialize it; I don't want to make light of it. It's serious, and I want to give it all that it needs.
This is an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crescent Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crescent Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the wish of this committee that this motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. This vote is deferred.
Mr Marchese: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I'd like to withdraw the following motion, which reads, "the residents of Crescent Town." I believe that is a mistake.
The Second Deputy Chair: That is a point of order, and it's done.
The Acting Chair (Mr David Christopherson): NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crescent Town Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crescent Town Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crescentwood Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crescentwood Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote will be deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Creswell Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Creswell Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the motion carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crest Fernway living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crest Fernway living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cresthaven Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cresthaven Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crestland Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crestland Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Creston Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Creston Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crestridge Heights Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crestridge Heights Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour please say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
Mr Silipo: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I'd like to request that we withdraw the following amendment dealing with Crestview Lk.
The Acting Chair: Okay, the amendment's withdrawn.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crestview Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crestview Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
All in favour of the amendment please say "aye." All opposed say "nay." I think we jumped a step there, but it's the same conclusion: In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crestwood Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crestwood Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4)
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crete Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crete Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4)
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crewe Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crewe Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasue of the committee that the amendment carries? All in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4)
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cricklewood Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cricklewood Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4)
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crimson Millway living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crimson Millway living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
The chair recognizes the member from Dovercourt.
Mr Silipo: I'd like to withdraw the following amendment, Chair, as it is a duplicate of the one we've just dealt with.
The Acting Chair: Thank you. The amendment is withdrawn.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crioline Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crioline Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
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NDP motion: Subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cripps Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cripps Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Criscoe Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Criscoe Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote's deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crispin Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crispin Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is the committee in favour of the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. Vote's deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crittenden Square living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crittenden Square living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Croach Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Croach Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Croatia Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Croatia Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crockamhill Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crockamhill Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crocker Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crocker Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crockford Boulevard living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crockford Boulevard living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crocus Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crocus Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Croft Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Croft Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crofton Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crofton Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Croham Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Croham Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cromarty Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cromarty Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cromer Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cromer Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cromwell Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cromwell Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cronin Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cronin Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
Mr Peter Kormos (Welland-Thorold): Mr Chair, on a point of order: I attended at the east entrance just a few minutes ago. Here we are, it's 10 after 10 on Saturday night and this Legislature is going to be open all evening. Will the Chair please assure me and other members of this assembly that the east doors will remain open so that members of the public can continue to attend here and observe these proceedings and sit, as these spectators are, in protest of Mike Harris's and Al Leach's megacity hearings, even though Mike Harris happens to be skiing in Whistler, BC, as his backbenchers are sitting here sweating it out?
The Acting Chair: Member, take your seat, please.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Order. You're not in your seat.
Mr Garry J. Guzzo (Ottawa-Rideau): You're right, I'm not.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Order, please, all of us. To the member for Welland-Thorold, I would just say, to the best of my knowledge, there's no reason why those doors wouldn't remain open, and if that's the case, I would ask some officer or official of this place to tell me otherwise.
Mr Kormos: Thank you, Chair.
The Acting Chair: You're welcome.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cronsberry Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cronsberry Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crosby Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crosby Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crosland Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crosland Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cross Hill Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cross Hill Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All those in favour, say "aye." All those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cross Roads Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cross Roads Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour, say "aye." All opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cross Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cross Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crossbow Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crossbow Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour, please say "aye." Those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crossburn Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crossburn Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour, say "aye." All opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crossen Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crossen Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crouse Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crouse Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crow Trail living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crow Trail living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crowfoot Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation'" -- thank you.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crowland Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crowland Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crown Acres Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crown Acres Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crown Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crown Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crown Hill Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crown Hill Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. I can't see. When you stand, if you could be there, then I could do this quicker and that would be better. Thank you. I appreciate that. The vote's deferred.
I don't want to be accused of leaving too much time, but I don't want to miss him, so if he stands that way, I can see right away whether he's there or not. We'll try to keep this all on the up and up.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crown Park Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crown Park Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour please say "aye." All opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crown's Lane living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crown's Lane living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote's deferred.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Croydon Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Croydon Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cruikshank Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cruikshank Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All those in favour please say "aye." All those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it and the vote is deferred.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: I can wait until the members of the Legislature are ready. Order please, members.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crusader Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crusader Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation -- '"
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: I would ask members to please take their conversations outside or be quieter. The din gets louder and louder. The member for Grey-Owen Sound, if you would please, I'd like you to be quieter. You are adding to the din in the room, the noise.
I realize it's late and members are tired, but I know that members want to conduct themselves in a way that the public would expect. I've got the opposition members quiet, I would ask the government members to join them.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Perhaps the members would prefer to have a 10-minute recess so they can talk rather than do the business before us. We can do that.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crusader Street" -- didn't we just do Crusader? Unless there are two Crusaders. So we have done that one.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cryderman's Sideroad living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cryderman's Sideroad" -- I'm assuming that's sideroad; if anyone knows differently, please correct me -- "living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.'"
Mr Marchese: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I apologize, I was indicating to you that you were on Crusader Street and that you hadn't completed that, because on the following one that you are reading at the moment, I was about to withdraw it, given the designation which appeared to be somewhat confusing. I would urge you to go back to the Crusader Street because that was not completed and then I would ask --
The Acting Chair: If we haven't done it, we will. I just want to be --
Mr Marchese: You didn't do it. I was following you very closely.
The Acting Chair: Well, we'll compromise. I'll pick up at the first point, number 1. How's that?
Mr Marchese: Crusader Street you mean?
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The Acting Chair: Yes, on Crusader Street, rather than start from the beginning because I must have done some of it.
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crusader Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Is it the pleasure of the committee that the amendment carry? All in favour say "aye." All opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
The Acting Chair (Mr Richard Patten): NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Crystal Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Crystal Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote shall be deferred.
Mr Marchese: On a point of order, Mr Chair: This may be a mistake, the one that refers to residents of Crystal Lake, and therefore I would like to withdraw that.
The Acting Chair: The last one is withdrawn.
Mr Kormos: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Tomorrow at 1 o'clock, there's a rally here at Queen's Park. My concern is about access to the building. Opponents of Bills 103 and 104 --
The Acting Chair: The member for Welland-Thorold, would you please take your seat. Would the member please take his seat. We appreciate the advertisement. However, that isn't a point of order.
Mr Kormos: On a point of order, Mr Chair: I'm concerned about people having access. The Chair recalls that the last time people massed here, there was a very difficult time obtaining access to the visitors' galleries. I'm asking that the Chair could determine that access for the opponents of 103 and 104 at 1 o'clock at Queen's Park square will be guaranteed access to these galleries.
The Acting Chair: The access, I'm informed, is there for the public to come and to participate or to hear the proceedings.
I have an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cudham Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cudham Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
I have an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cudia Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cudia Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
I have an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cudworth Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cudworth Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
Mr Marchese: On a point of order, Mr Chair: The following motion combines two street names and therefore I would like to withdraw this motion.
The Acting Chair: All right. That is Cuffley CrescentCulford Road.
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I have an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Culnan Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Culnan Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cultra Square living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cultra Square living in the urban area. Can I have some order please. Can I have some order please.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the amendment carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cumber Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cumber Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cumberland Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cumberland Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cumberland Terrace living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cumberland Terrace living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cummer Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cummer Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the amendment carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cumming Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cumming Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in say "aye." All those against say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion: Subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cunard Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cunard Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour, say "aye." Those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
The member for Fort York, a point of order?
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Mr Marchese: Mr Chair, the following motion has an incomplete street designation and therefore I would like to withdraw that.
The Acting Chair: All right.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cunningham Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cunningham Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour, say "aye." Those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
The member for Fort York.
Mr Marchese: I would like to withdraw this motion as well. The name of the street is Curity and it is incomplete. The following motion has "Avenue." I'd like to withdraw this.
The Acting Chair: Okay, Curity is withdrawn.
I have an NDP motion.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Could I have some order, please.
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Curity Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Curity Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour, say "aye." Those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
I have an NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Curlew Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Curlew Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour, say "aye." Those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Curly Vine Way living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Curly Vine Way living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." Those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Curran Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Curran Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour, say "aye." Those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Currie Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Currie Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour, say "aye." Those opposed, say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion:
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Curtis Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Curtis Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Curzon Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Curzon Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cusack Court living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cusack Court living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cushendale Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cushendale Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cushendun Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cushendun Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cuthbert Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cuthbert Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cutler Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cutler Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cynthia Road living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cynthia Road living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Cypress Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Cypress Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of D'arcy Magee Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of D'arcy Magee Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of D'arcy Street living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of D'arcy Street living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Dacotah Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Dacotah Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Dacre Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Dacre Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Dagmar Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Dagmar Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Dailing Gate living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Dailing Gate living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
2350
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Daisy Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Daisy Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Dakin Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Dakin Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour please say "aye." Those opposed please say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
Mr Kormos: On a point of order, Mr Chair: Sir, the people who live on Davenport Road are anxious to ensure that the amendment with respect to them passes. Can the Chair indicate when the House will be reaching the amendment regarding the residents of Davenport Road? They are anxious to be here to witness the presentation of that amendment. Can the Chair give us some direction as to what time people from Davenport Road will be served some democracy?
The Acting Chair: To the member for Welland-Thorold, I have not seen all the amendments and I don't know what time it will take, but I would imagine it would be soon.
Mr Derwyn Shea (High Park-Swansea): On a point of order, Mr Chair: I seek unanimous consent of this House that we in fact defer consideration of any other streets so we may deal with Davenport.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: I'm sorry. Did I hear a no? Thank you.
Mr Kormos: On a point of order, Mr Chair: The people on those streets and roads before Davenport want to be considered too for a crack at democracy.
Interjections.
The Acting Chair: Can I have some order please? I appreciate the help that I have been given by the members, I appreciate that. So I may resume.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Dalbeattie Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Dalbeattie Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? Those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Dalbret Crescent living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Dalbret Crescent living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Dalcourt Drive living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Dalcourt Drive living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Dale Avenue living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Dale Avenue living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." Those against say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
NDP motion, subsection 24(4):
"I move that section 24 of the bill be amended by adding the following subsection:
"`Public consultation
"`(4) Despite subsection (1), no regulation that may affect the residents of Daleberry Place living in the urban area shall be made unless the following conditions have first been satisfied:
"`1. The minister has given notice of the proposed regulation, in a manner that will come to the attention of the residents of Daleberry Place living in the urban area.
"`2. The minister has considered all written submissions made by members of the public that his office received within 30 days after the notice was given.
"`3. If 10 or more persons requested a public hearing within 30 days after the notice was given, a public hearing has been held and the minister has considered all oral submissions made at the hearing.
"`4. The minister shall give three weeks' notice of a public hearing, in the same manner as the notice under paragraph 1.
"`5. The notice under paragraph 1 shall,
"`i. include a copy of the proposed regulation,
"`ii. tell members of the public where and how to obtain, without charge, a copy of this act together with background material,
"`iii. advise members of the public of their rights under paragraphs 2, 3 and 4,
"`iv. advise members of the public where their written submissions and requests for a public hearing should be sent.'"
Shall the motion carry? All those in favour say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In my opinion, the nays have it. The vote is deferred.
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