RED TAPE REDUCTION ACT, 1999 / LOI DE 1999 VISANT À RÉDUIRE LES FORMALITÉS ADMINISTRATIVES

CONTENTS

Monday 6 December 1999

Red Tape Reduction Act, 1999, Bill 11, Mr Runciman / Loi de 1999 visant à réduire les formalités administratives, projet de loi 11, M. Runciman

STANDING COMMITTEE ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT

Chair / Présidente
Ms Marilyn Mushinski

Vice-Chair / Vice-Présidente
Mrs Julia Munro

Mr Toby Barrett (Norfolk PC)
Mrs Marie Bountrogianni (Hamilton Mountain L)
Mr Ted Chudleigh (Halton PC)
Mr Garfield Dunlop (Simcoe North / -Nord PC)
Mr Dave Levac (Brant L)
Mr Rosario Marchese (Trinity-Spadina ND)
Mrs Julia Munro (York North / -Nord PC)
Ms Marilyn Mushinski (Scarborough Centre / -Centre PC)

Substitutions / Membres remplaçants
Ms Marilyn Churley (Broadview-Greenwood ND)
Mr Tony Martin (Sault Ste Marie ND)
Mr Jerry Ouellette (Oshawa PC)
Mr John R. O'Toole (Durham PC)

Clerk / Greffier
Mr Viktor Kaczkowski

Staff /Personnel
Mr Michael Wood, legislative counsel

The committee met at 1851 in committee room 1.

RED TAPE REDUCTION ACT, 1999 / LOI DE 1999 VISANT À RÉDUIRE LES FORMALITÉS ADMINISTRATIVES

Consideration of Bill 11, An Act to reduce red tape, to promote good government through better management of Ministries and agencies and to improve customer service by amending or repealing certain Acts and by enacting four new Acts / Projet de loi 11, Loi visant à réduire les formalités administratives, à promouvoir un bon gouvernement par une meilleure gestion des ministères et organismes et à améliorer le service à la clientèle en modifiant ou abrogeant certaines lois et en édictant quatre nouvelles lois.

The Chair (Ms Marilyn Mushinski): I call the meeting to order. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We're here to discuss Bill 11. For the record, I should read to the committee government notice of motion 14, Mr Sterling's resolution:

"That pursuant to standing order 46 and notwithstanding any other standing order or special order of the House relating to Bill 11, An Act to reduce red tape, to promote good government through better management of Ministries and agencies and to improve customer service by amending or repealing certain Acts and by enacting four new Acts, the standing committee on general government shall be authorized to meet at 6:45 pm on Monday, December 6, 1999 for the purpose of considering the bill;

"That, at such time, the Chair shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or amendment."

Consequently, I will be now entertaining motions-I'm sorry; we shall now go into clause-by-clause consideration of the bill. I'm wondering if we can have-Mr Martin?

Mr Tony Martin (Sault Ste Marie): Just for clarification on that last issue, does this mean we won't be entertaining any debate or amendments on any parts of this bill tonight?

The Chair: Yes. You'd like me to repeat that, Mr Martin?

Mr Martin: That's what you're saying, we're just going to go through clause by clause without any debate or amendment?

The Chair: That is correct. I have received instruction from the House that the Chair shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or amendment.

Mr Martin: Could I just put my ever-so-brief comment on the record? I find this very disappointing and frustrating. All of us around the table are elected to this place to give due process to pieces of legislation that come forward, whether it be from government or private members, such that at the end of the day it is something that will be in the best interests of all of the folks who call Ontario home. Here we are with a fairly extensive bill, changing a lot of acts that were obviously put in place over a period of time for all the correct reasons at the time of their passing.

The Chair: Mr Martin, with respect, it sounds to me as if you are now about to enter into the very thing you should not be entering into. I'm suggesting that we cannot debate any part of this bill, as ordered by the House.

Mr Martin: OK. I'll just finish then by reiterating my disappointment and frustration with this process.

The Chair: That's so noted. Thank you, Mr Martin.

Shall sections 1 through 3 carry? Carried.

Shall schedules A through S carry? Carried.

Shall the long title of the bill carry? Carried.

Shall Bill 11 be reported to the House? Agreed.

That completes the work of the committee. Can I have a motion to adjourn?

Mr Toby Barrett (Haldimand-Norfolk-Brant): So moved.

The Chair: This meeting is adjourned.

The committee adjourned at 1856.