CONTENTS
Thursday 7 May 1998
Election of Chair
Election of Vice-Chair
Appointment of subcommittee
STANDING COMMITTEE ON ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE
CHAIR / PRÉSIDENT
MR JERRY J. OUELLETTE (OSHAWA PC)
VICE-CHAIR / VICE-PRÉSIDENT
MR E.J. DOUGLAS ROLLINS (QUINTE PC)
MR DAVE BOUSHY (SARNIA PC)
MR BRUCE CROZIER (ESSEX SOUTH / -SUD L)
MR PETER KORMOS (WELLAND-THOROLD ND)
MR GERRY MARTINIUK (CAMBRIDGE PC)
MR JERRY J. OUELLETTE (OSHAWA PC)
MR DAVID RAMSAY (TIMISKAMING L)
MR E.J. DOUGLAS ROLLINS (QUINTE PC)
MR R. GARY STEWART (PETERBOROUGH PC)
MR BOB WOOD (LONDON SOUTH / -SUD PC)
SUBSTITUTIONS / MEMBRES REMPLAÇANTS
MR JOHN GERRETSEN (KINGSTON AND THE ISLANDS / KINGSTON ET LES ÎLES L)
MR TONY MARTIN (SAULT STE MARIE ND)
MRS LILLIAN ROSS (HAMILTON WEST / -OUEST PC)
CLERK / GREFFIER
MR DOUGLAS ARNOTT
STAFF / PERSONNEL
MR AVRUM FENSON, RESEARCH OFFICER, LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH SERVICE
The committee met at 1525 in committee room 1.
ELECTION OF CHAIR
Clerk of the Committee (Mr Doug Arnott): Honourable members, it is my duty to call upon you to elect a Chair of the committee. Are there any nominations, please?
Mr Tony Martin (Sault Ste Marie): I'd like to nominate John Gerretsen.
Mr E.J. Douglas Rollins (Quinte): I move that Jerry Ouellette be elected Chairman.
Clerk of the Committee: Are there any further nominations? There being no further nominations, I declare nominations closed and Mr Ouellette duly elected Chair of the committee.
Mr John Gerretsen (Kingston and The Islands): Wait a minute. I've been nominated as well. I think it should be an election. If Hansard recorded that I've been nominated, then I will decline the nomination.
Interjections.
Clerk of the Committee: Mr Ouellette is declared duly nominated Chair of the committee.
The Chair (Mr Jerry J. Ouellette): Thank you, Mr Clerk and members of the committee. A comment was brought forward about how fair I'll be. If the member would check to see past performance of the future dictator, I believe that any time I've been able to sit in the Chair position I've been extremely fair, sometimes not to the benefit of myself afterwards. As I said, past performance of the future dictator, and I think if you read the record, you'll find that I have been extremely so and I will continue to do so.
Mr Gerretsen: That's encouraging. Now do you want our opinion?
ELECTION OF VICE-CHAIR
The Chair: If we can call order, at this time I'd like to call for nominations for Vice-Chair.
Mrs Lillian Ross (Hamilton West): I'd like to nominate Doug Rollins as Vice-Chair.
The Chair: Are there any further nominations?
Mr Gerretsen: I'd like to go on the record, right now. I just want the record to show --
The Chair: And the record shall show. I shall call for further nominations again. Seeing no further nominations, then we have Doug Rollins as the Vice-Chair. Welcome, Doug.
APPOINTMENT OF SUBCOMMITTEE
The Chair: We need a motion now to appoint a subcommittee on committee business.
Mr E.J. Douglas Rollins (Quinte): I move that a subcommittee on committee business be appointed to meet from time to time at the call of the Chair, or at the request of any member thereof, to consider and report to the committee on the business of the committee; that the presence of all members of the subcommittee is necessary to constitute a meeting; and that the subcommittee be composed of the following members: the Chair, Mr Ouellette, as chair, and myself, Mr Ramsay and Mr Kormos; and that substitution be permitted on the subcommittee.
The Chair: Any debate on the motion put forward?
Mr Gerretsen: What's wrong with Mr Boushy and Mr Martin?
Mr Gerry Martiniuk (Cambridge): I'm sorry, Mr Chair. You've got both the Chair and the Vice-Chair on the subcommittee. The Chair is on the subcommittee and you have the Vice-Chair being the member on the subcommittee. I don't think so.
Mr Rollins: I thought it should have been Gerry Martiniuk.
Mr Martiniuk: I believe it is either me or Lillian Ross who will be the lead person on the bill that we're going to hear.
Mr Rollins: Then I will take my name off and put Martiniuk on there.
The Chair: So you are amending the motion, Mr Rollins.
Mr Rollins: Removing the name Rollins and inserting Gerry Martiniuk.
Mr Gerretsen: I think Mr Rollins makes a much better Vice-Chair.
Mr Rollins: Thank you. You're so agreeable.
The Chair: Is there any further debate on the motion? Can we have the names repeated of the individuals on your motion, please.
Mr Rollins: The subcommittee will comprise the following people: the Chair, Mr Jerry Ouellette, Mr Martiniuk, Mr Ramsay and Mr Kormos.
Mr Gerretsen: What happened to Mrs Ross?
The Chair: We've had debate now. I think we call a vote on this. All in favour of the motion? Carried unanimously.
Just for the committee's understanding, there have been three bills that have been called to this committee and at the request of myself the subcommittee will meet to discuss the committee business of the three bills that have been brought forward. Unless there's any further business that needs to come forward, that concludes the meeting. I will call the subcommittee to meet immediately after the closing of this meeting.
The committee adjourned at 1531.