Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 29
Evening Meeting - Sessional Day 30
Mercredi
17 décembre 2003
Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 29
Séance du soir - jour de session 30
1st Session,
38th Parliament
1re session
38e législature
PRAYERS
1:30 P.M.
PRIÈRES
13 H 30
The Speaker delivered the
following ruling:-
I have had an opportunity to
reflect on the submissions that were made yesterday concerning
developments in the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic
Affairs in respect of its consideration of Bill 5, An Act to
temporarily freeze automobile insurance rates for private
passenger vehicles and to provide for the review and regulation
of risk classification systems and automobile insurance rates for
private passenger vehicles.
While our practice is that
matters that arise in committee should be considered in and
disposed of by that committee, I appreciate that the matter
before this particular committee, and the committee proceedings
itself, were the subject of a December 4, 2003 Order of the
House.
The committee met on the morning
of December 15, 2003 it convened again that afternoon and in the
course of that meeting it adjourned for lack of quorum. In
reviewing the December 4, 2003 order of this House, I note that
it directs the committee to meet for 2 days to consider Bill 5. I
want to point out here that committee meeting days are
differently defined and not necessarily equivalent to "sessional
days". In fact, in the next section of the House Order the
permissive form "may" is used in setting out the times for the
committee to meet. Thus, meeting for any amount of time within
the timeframe established for those two days has the committee
acting in compliance with the House Order. That it did not meet
yesterday afternoon, does not detract from the fact that it met
on that day.
Clearly, adjourning for lack of
quorum was an unexpected and less than favourable outcome for
this committee. It does not however in any way abrogate the
motion passed by this House on December 4, 2003.
Having said that, I want to
impress upon all Members that committee work is a fundamentally
important component of our Parliamentary process. A working
committee system affords an opportunity for Members to become
familiar with issues and to understand more fully the impact of
proposed policy decisions. Perhaps more importantly, it provides
an essential liaison between we in this place and the people we
serve. All Members should consider carefully their committee
obligations and be vigilant about living up to them.
I wish to thank the members who
spoke to this matter for their submissions.
REPORTS BY
COMMITTEES
RAPPORTS DES
COMITÉS
Mr. Hoy from the Standing
Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs presented the
Committee's report as follows and moved its adoption:-
M. Hoy du Comité permanent
des finances et des affaires économiques présente le
rapport du comité et propose l'adoption comme
suit:-
Your Committee begs to report
the following Bill without amendment:-
Votre comité propose qu'il
soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant sans
amendement:-
Bill 5, An Act to temporarily
freeze automobile insurance rates for private passenger vehicles
and to provide for the review and regulation of risk
classification systems and automobile insurance rates for private
passenger vehicles.
Projet de loi 5, Loi visant
à geler temporairement les taux d'assurance-automobile dans
le cas des voitures de tourisme et à prévoir l'examen
et la réglementation des systèmes de classement des
risques et des taux d'assurance-automobile les
concernant.
The motion having been put, was
carried on the following division:-
La motion, mise aux voix, est
adoptée par le vote suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
62
Agostino
Arthurs
Bartolucci
Bentley
Berardinetti
Bountrogianni
Bradley
Brown
Brownell
Bryant
Cansfield
Caplan
Chambers
Colle
Cordiano
Craitor
Crozier
Delaney
Di Cocco
Dombrowsky
Duguid
Duncan
Flynn
Fonseca
Gerretsen
Gravelle
Hoy
Kennedy
Kwinter
Lalonde
Leal
Levac
Marsales
Matthews
Mauro
McGuinty
McNeely
Meilleur
Milloy
Mitchell
Orazietti
Parsons
Peters
Peterson
Phillips
Pupatello
Qaadri
Racco
Ramal
Ramsay
Rinaldi
Sandals
Smith
Smitherman
Sorbara
Takhar
Van Bommel
Watson
Wilkinson
Wong
Wynne
Zimmer
NAYS / CONTRE -
26
Arnott
Baird
Barrett
Bisson
Chudleigh
Churley
Dunlop
Eves
Flaherty
Hampton
Hudak
Jackson
Marchese
Martel
Martiniuk
Miller
Munro
Murdoch
O'Toole
Ouellette
Prue
Runciman
Scott
Sterling
Tascona
Yakabuski
Pursuant to the Order of the
House of December 4, 2003, the Bill is Ordered for Third
Reading.
Conformément à l'ordre
adopté par l'Assemblée le 4 décembre 2003, le
projet de loi est ordonné pour la troisième
lecture.
INTRODUCTION OF
BILLS
DÉPÔT DES PROJETS
DE LOI
The following Bills were
introduced and read the first time:-
Les projets de loi suivants sont
présentés et lus une première fois:-
Bill 31, An Act to enact and
amend various Acts with respect to the protection of health
information. Hon. Mr. Smitherman.
Projet de loi 31, Loi
édictant et modifiant diverses lois en ce qui a trait à
la protection des renseignements sur la santé. L'hon. M.
Smitherman.
Bill 32, An Act to restrict the
operation of large hog farms and to amend the Nutrient Management
Act, 2002. Ms. Churley.
Projet de loi 32, Loi visant
à restreindre l'exploitation des grosses fermes porcines et
à modifier la Loi de 2002 sur la gestion des
éléments nutritifs. Mme Churley.
Bill 33, An Act proclaiming
Irish Heritage Day. Mr. O'Toole.
Projet de loi 33, Loi proclamant
le Jour du patrimoine irlandais. M. O'Toole.
Bill 34, An Act to protect
sources of drinking water in Ontario. Ms. Churley.
Projet de loi 34, Loi visant
à protéger les sources d'eau potable en Ontario.
Mme Churley.
At 4:00 p.m., pursuant to
Standing Order 30(b), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings and
called Orders of the Day.
À 16 heures,
conformément à l'article 30(b) du Règlement, le
Président interrompt les délibérations et passe
à l'ordre du jour.
With unanimous consent,
notwithstanding Standing Order 30(b), the following petition was
presented:-
Petition relating to returning
to the previous Municipal Model of Government (Sessional Paper
No. P-35) Ms. Mossop.
ORDERS OF THE
DAY
ORDRE DU JOUR
Debate was resumed on the motion
for Third Reading of Bill 2, An Act respecting fiscal
responsibility.
Le débat reprend sur la
motion portant troisième lecture du projet de loi loi 2, Loi
concernant la gestion responsable des finances.
After some time, pursuant to the
Order of the House of December 4, 2003, the Deputy Speaker (Mr.
Crozier) put the question forthwith on the motion which question
was carried on the following division:-
Après quelque temps,
conformément à l'ordre adopté par l'Assemblée
le 4 décembre 2003, le vice-président, M. Crozier met
la motion aux voix immédiatement, et cette motion est
adoptée par le vote suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
64
Arthurs
Bartolucci
Bentley
Berardinetti
Bountrogianni
Bradley
Broten
Brown
Brownell
Bryant
Cansfield
Caplan
Chambers
Colle
Cordiano
Craitor
Delaney
Di Cocco
Dombrowsky
Duguid
Duncan
Fonseca
Gerretsen
Gravelle
Hoy
Kular
Kwinter
Lalonde
Leal
Levac
Marsales
Matthews
Mauro
McGuinty
McMeekin
McNeely
Milloy
Mitchell
Mossop
Orazietti
Parsons
Patten
Peters
Peterson
Phillips
Pupatello
Qaadri
Racco
Ramal
Ramsay
Rinaldi
Ruprecht
Sandals
Sergio
Smith
Smitherman
Sorbara
Takhar
Van Bommel
Watson
Wilkinson
Wong
Wynne
Zimmer
NAYS / CONTRE -
25
Arnott
Baird
Barrett
Bisson
Dunlop
Eves
Hampton
Hardeman
Hudak
Jackson
Klees
Marchese
Martel
Martiniuk
Miller
Murdoch
O'Toole
Ouellette
Prue
Runciman
Scott
Sterling
Tascona
Witmer
Yakabuski
And the Bill was accordingly
read the third time and was passed.
Le projet de loi est par
conséquent soumis à sa troisième lecture et
adopté.
The House then adjourned at 6:05
p.m.
À 18 h 05, la chambre a
ensuite ajourné ses travaux.
6:45 P.M.
18 H 45
ORDERS OF THE
DAY
ORDRE DU JOUR
A debate arose on the motion for
Second Reading of Bill 28, An Act to authorize the expenditure of
certain amounts for the fiscal year ending March 31,
2004.
Il s'élève un
débat sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet
de loi 28, Loi autorisant l'utilisation de certaines sommes pour
l'exercice se terminant le 31 mars 2004.
After some time, the motion was
carried on the following division:-
Après quelque temps, la
motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
45
Arthurs
Berardinetti
Broten
Brown
Bryant
Cansfield
Caplan
Colle
Craitor
Delaney
Dombrowsky
Duguid
Fonseca
Gerretsen
Gravelle
Hoy
Kular
Lalonde
Leal
Levac
Marchese
Marsales
Mauro
McMeekin
McNeely
Meilleur
Milloy
Mitchell
Orazietti
Peters
Peterson
Phillips
Qaadri
Ramal
Ramsay
Rinaldi
Ruprecht
Sandals
Sergio
Smith
Sorbara
Van Bommel
Watson
Wilkinson
Wynne
NAYS / CONTRE -
6
Dunlop
Hudak
Martiniuk
Miller
Runciman
Yakabuski
And the Bill was accordingly
read the second time and Ordered for Third Reading.
En conséquence, ce projet
de loi est lu une deuxième fois et ordonné pour la
troisième lecture.
Bill 28, An Act to authorize the
expenditure of certain amounts for the fiscal year ending March
31, 2004, was then read the third time and was passed on the
following division:-
Projet de loi 28, Loi autorisant
l'utilisation de certaines sommes pour l'exercice se terminant le
31 mars 2004, est ensuite lu une troisième fois et
adopté par le vote suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
45
Arthurs
Berardinetti
Broten
Brown
Bryant
Cansfield
Caplan
Colle
Craitor
Delaney
Dombrowsky
Duguid
Fonseca
Gerretsen
Gravelle
Hoy
Kular
Lalonde
Leal
Levac
Marchese
Marsales
Mauro
McMeekin
McNeely
Meilleur
Milloy
Mitchell
Orazietti
Peters
Peterson
Phillips
Qaadri
Ramal
Ramsay
Rinaldi
Ruprecht
Sandals
Sergio
Smith
Sorbara
Van Bommel
Watson
Wilkinson
Wynne
NAYS / CONTRE -
6
Dunlop
Hudak
Martiniuk
Miller
Runciman
Yakabuski
Mr. Caplan moved, That the House
do now adjourn.
M. Caplan propose que
l'Assemblée ajourne les débats maintenant.
The question, having been put on
the motion, was declared carried.
Cette motion, mise aux voix, est
déclarée adoptée.
The House then adjourned at 9:30
p.m.
À 21 h 30, la chambre a
ensuite ajourné ses travaux.
le président
Alvin Curling
Speaker
SESSIONAL PAPERS PRESENTED
PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER 39(A):-
DOCUMENTS PARLEMENTAIRES
DÉPOSÉS CONFORMÉMENT À L'ARTICLE 39(A) DU
RÈGLEMENT
Agricorp, Annual Report
2002-2003 (No. 29).
Compendia:
Bill 31, An Act to enact and
amend various Acts with respect to the protection of health
information (No. 30).