37th Parliament, 3rd Session

No. 61

No 61

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée législative
de l'Ontario

Monday
November 25, 2002


Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 105
Evening Meeting - Sessional Day 106

Lundi
25 novembre 2002


Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 105
Séance du soir - jour de session 106

3rd Session,
37th Parliament

3e session
37e législature

PRAYERS
1:30 P.M.

PRIÈRES
13 H 30

REPORTS BY COMMITTEES

RAPPORTS DES COMITÉS

The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-

Standing Order 62(a) provides that "the Standing Committee on Estimates shall present one report with respect to all of the Estimates and Supplementary Estimates considered pursuant to Standing Orders 59 and 61 no later than the third Thursday in November of each calendar year".

The House not having received a report from the Standing Committee on Estimates for certain ministries on Thursday, November 21, 2002, as required by the Standing Orders of this House, pursuant to Standing Order 62(b) the Estimates before the Committee of the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities, the Ministry of Community, Family and Children's Services, the Ministry of Natural Resources, the Ministry of Public Safety and Security, the Ministry of Tourism and Recreation, and the Ministry of Enterprise, Opportunity and Innovation are deemed to be passed by the Committee and are deemed to be reported to and received by the House.

Accordingly, the Estimates (2002-2003) of the following ministries were deemed to be passed by the Standing Committee on Estimates and were deemed to be reported to and received by the House:-

MINISTRY OF TRAINING, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES

3001

3002

3003

Ministry Administration Program

Postsecondary Education Program

Training and Employment Program

$

$

$

7,852,500

2,371,125,400

266,246,800

MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY, FAMILY AND CHILDREN'S SERVICES

701

702

Ministry Administration Program

Adults' and Children's Services Program

$

$

15,519,800

5,126,632,100

MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES

2101

2102

2103

2104

Ministry Administration Program

Geographic Information Program

Natural Resource Management Program

Public Safety and Emergency Response Program

$

$

$

$

22,661,100

23,235,500

176,346,200

21,015,200

MINISTRY OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND SECURITY

2601

2602

2603

2604

2605

2606

2607

Ministry Administration Program

Public Safety Program

Policing Services Program

Ontario Provincial Police

Correctional Services Program

Integrated Justice Information Technology Program

Agencies, Boards and Commissions Program

$

$

$

$

$

$

$

39,871,200

49,559,400

48,183,300

413,045,900

478,580,000

31,873,700

4,034,000

MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND RECREATION

3801

3802

3803

3804

Ministry Administration Program

Tourism Program

Sport and Recreation Program

Tourism and Recreation Capital Program

$

$

$

$

5,176,700

42,930,200

12,305,100

109,000,000

MINISTRY OF ENTERPRISE, OPPORTUNITY AND INNOVATION

901

902

Ministry Administration Program

Enterprise, Opportunity and Innovation Program

$

$

8,671,100

202,515,900

Mrs. Mushinski from the Standing Committee on the Legislative Assembly presented the Committee's Report which was read as follows and adopted:-

Mme Mushinski du Comité permanent de l'assemblée législative présente le rapport du comité qui est lu comme suit et adopté:-

Your Committee begs to report the following Bill without amendment:-

Votre comité propose qu'il soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant sans amendement:-

Bill 113, An Act to honour firefighters who have died in the line of duty. Ordered for Third Reading.

Projet de loi 113, Loi visant à rendre hommage aux pompiers décédés dans l'exercice de leurs fonctions. Ordonné pour la troisième lecture.

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI

On motion by Mr. Baird, Bill 210, An Act to amend various Acts in respect of the pricing, conservation and supply of electricity and in respect of other matters related to electricity was introduced and read the first time on the following division:-

Sur la motion de M. Baird, le projet de loi 210, Loi modifiant diverses lois en ce qui concerne l'établissement du prix de l'électricité, la conservation de l'électricité et l'approvisionne-ment en électricité et traitant d'autres questions liées à l'électricité est présenté et lu une première fois à la suite du vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 75

Agostino

Arnott

Baird

Barrett

Bartolucci

Beaubien

Bountrogianni

Boyer

Bradley

Brown

Bryant

Caplan

Chudleigh

Clark

Clement

Coburn

Colle

Cordiano

Crozier

Cunningham

Curling

DeFaria

Di Cocco

Dombrowsky

Duncan

Dunlop

Ecker

Elliott

Flaherty

Galt

Gill

Gravelle

Hodgson

Johns

Johnson

Kells

Kennedy

Klees

Kwinter

Lalonde

Levac

Marland

Maves

Mazzilli

McDonald

McLeod

McMeekin

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Murdoch

Mushinski

O'Toole

Ouellette

Parsons

Patten

Peters

Phillips

Pupatello

Ramsay

Runciman

Sampson

Smitherman

Spina

Sterling

Stewart

Stockwell

Tascona

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wettlaufer

Wilson

Witmer

Wood

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 6

Churley

Hampton

Kormos

Marchese

Martin

Prue

On motion by Mr. Clark, Bill 211, An Act to resolve a labour dispute between The Ontario English Catholic Teachers' Association and the Simcoe Muskoka Catholic District School Board was introduced and read the first time on the following division:-

Sur la motion de M. Clark, le projet de loi 211, Loi visant à régler le conflit de travail opposant l'Association des enseignantes et des enseignants catholiques anglo-ontariens et le conseil scolaire de district appelé Simcoe Muskoka Catholic District School Board est présenté et lu une première fois à la suite du vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 78

Agostino

Arnott

Baird

Barrett

Bartolucci

Beaubien

Bountrogianni

Boyer

Bradley

Brown

Bryant

Caplan

Chudleigh

Clark

Clement

Coburn

Colle

Cordiano

Crozier

Cunningham

Curling

DeFaria

Di Cocco

Dombrowsky

Duncan

Dunlop

Ecker

Elliott

Flaherty

Galt

Gerretsen

Gill

Gravelle

Hodgson

Hudak

Johns

Johnson

Kells

Kennedy

Klees

Kwinter

Lalonde

Levac

Marland

Maves

Mazzilli

McDonald

McLeod

McMeekin

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Murdoch

Mushinski

Newman

O'Toole

Ouellette

Parsons

Patten

Peters

Phillips

Pupatello

Ramsay

Runciman

Sampson

Smitherman

Spina

Sterling

Stewart

Stockwell

Tascona

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wettlaufer

Wilson

Witmer

Wood

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 5

Churley

Kormos

Marchese

Martin

Prue

The following Bill was introduced and read the first time:-

Le projet de loi suivant est présenté et lu une première fois:-

Bill 212, An Act to amend the Executive Council Act and Legislative Assembly Act respecting an institution of democracy in the Legislative Assembly. Mr. Kormos.

Projet de loi 212, Loi modifiant la Loi sur le Conseil exécutif et sur l'Assemblée législative concernant une institution démocratique de l'Assemblée législative. M. Kormos.

DEFERRED VOTES

VOTES DIFFÉRÉS

The deferred vote on the motion for Third Reading of Bill 177, An Act to amend the Municipal Act, 2001, the Municipal Elections Act, 1996 and other Acts consequential to or related to the enactment of the Municipal Act, 2001 and to revise the Territorial Division Act, was carried on the following division:-

La motion portant troisième lecture du projet de loi 177, Loi modifiant la Loi de 2001 sur les municipalités, la Loi de 1996 sur les élections municipales et d'autres lois par suite de l'édiction de la Loi de 2001 sur les municipalités et révisant la Loi sur la division territoriale, mise aux voix sur le vote différé, est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 81

Agostino

Arnott

Baird

Barrett

Bartolucci

Beaubien

Bountrogianni

Boyer

Bradley

Brown

Bryant

Caplan

Chudleigh

Clark

Clement

Coburn

Colle

Conway

Cordiano

Crozier

Cunningham

Curling

DeFaria

Di Cocco

Dombrowsky

Duncan

Dunlop

Ecker

Elliott

Flaherty

Galt

Gerretsen

Gill

Gravelle

Hudak

Johns

Johnson

Kells

Kennedy

Klees

Kwinter

Lalonde

Levac

Marland

Maves

Mazzilli

McDonald

McGuinty

McLeod

McMeekin

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Murdoch

Mushinski

Newman

O'Toole

Ouellette

Parsons

Patten

Peters

Phillips

Pupatello

Ramsay

Runciman

Sampson

Sergio

Smitherman

Sorbara

Spina

Sterling

Stewart

Stockwell

Tascona

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wettlaufer

Wilson

Witmer

Wood

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 6

Churley

Hampton

Kormos

Marchese

Martin

Prue

And the Bill was accordingly read the third time and was passed.

En conséquence, ce projet de loi est lu une troisième fois et adopté.

The deferred vote on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 180, An Act to enact, amend or revise various Acts related to consumer protection, was carried on the following division:-

La motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 180, Loi édictant, modifiant ou révisant diverses lois portant sur la protection du consommateur, mise aux voix sur le vote différé, est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 88

Agostino

Arnott

Baird

Barrett

Bartolucci

Beaubien

Bountrogianni

Boyer

Bradley

Brown

Bryant

Caplan

Chudleigh

Churley

Clark

Clement

Coburn

Colle

Conway

Cordiano

Crozier

Cunningham

Curling

DeFaria

Di Cocco

Dombrowsky

Duncan

Dunlop

Ecker

Elliott

Flaherty

Galt

Gerretsen

Gill

Gravelle

Hampton

Hudak

Johns

Johnson

Kells

Kennedy

Klees

Kormos

Kwinter

Lalonde

Levac

Marchese

Marland

Martin

Maves

Mazzilli

McDonald

McGuinty

McLeod

McMeekin

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Murdoch

Mushinski

Newman

O'Toole

Ouellette

Parsons

Patten

Peters

Phillips

Prue

Pupatello

Ramsay

Runciman

Sampson

Sergio

Smitherman

Snobelen

Sorbara

Spina

Sterling

Stewart

Stockwell

Tascona

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wettlaufer

Wilson

Witmer

Wood

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 0

Pursuant to the Order of the House dated November 19, 2002, the Bill was accordingly read the second time and Ordered referred to the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs.

Conformément à l'ordre adopté le 19 novembre 2002, le projet de loi est en conséquence lu une deuxième fois et déféré au Comité permanent des finances et des affaires économiques.

The deferred vote on the motion for Third Reading of Bill 181, An Act to amend the Legal Aid Services Act, 1998, was carried on the following division:-

La motion portant troisième lecture du projet de loi 181, Loi modifiant la Loi de 1998 sur les services d'aide juridique, mise aux voix sur le vote différé, est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 47

Arnott

Baird

Barrett

Beaubien

Chudleigh

Clark

Clement

Coburn

Cunningham

DeFaria

Dunlop

Ecker

Elliott

Flaherty

Galt

Gill

Hudak

Johns

Johnson

Kells

Klees

Marland

Maves

Mazzilli

McDonald

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Murdoch

Mushinski

Newman

O'Toole

Ouellette

Runciman

Sampson

Snobelen

Spina

Sterling

Stewart

Stockwell

Tascona

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wettlaufer

Wilson

Witmer

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 40

Agostino

Bartolucci

Bountrogianni

Boyer

Bradley

Brown

Bryant

Caplan

Churley

Colle

Conway

Cordiano

Crozier

Curling

Di Cocco

Dombrowsky

Duncan

Gerretsen

Gravelle

Hampton

Kennedy

Kormos

Kwinter

Lalonde

Levac

Marchese

Martin

McGuinty

McLeod

McMeekin

Parsons

Patten

Peters

Phillips

Prue

Pupatello

Ramsay

Sergio

Smitherman

Sorbara

And the Bill was accordingly read the third time and was passed.

En conséquence, ce projet de loi est lu une troisième fois et adopté.

At 4:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(b), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings and called Orders of the Day.

À 16 heures, conformément à l'article 30(b) du Règlement, le Président interrompt les délibérations et passe à l'ordre du jour.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Mr. Stockwell moved,

M. Stockwell propose,

That pursuant to Standing Order 46 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 191, An Act to amend the Highway Traffic Act to ensure the safety of emergency vehicles stopped on a highway and people who are outside a stopped emergency vehicle, when Bill 191 is next called as a government order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill, without further debate or amendment, at such time the bill shall be Ordered for third reading, which order may be called on that same day; and

That, when the order for third reading is called, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, the vote on second and third reading may, pursuant to Standing Order 28(h), be deferred; and

That, in the case of any division relating to any proceedings on the bill, the division bell shall be limited to five minutes.

A debate arising, after some time, the motion was carried on the following division:-

Un débat s'ensuit et après quelque temps, la motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 49

Arnott

Baird

Barrett

Beaubien

Chudleigh

Clark

Clement

Coburn

Cunningham

DeFaria

Dunlop

Ecker

Elliott

Galt

Gilchrist

Gill

Hardeman

Hastings

Hudak

Johnson

Kells

Klees

Marland

Martiniuk

Maves

Mazzilli

McDonald

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Murdoch

Mushinski

Newman

O'Toole

Ouellette

Sampson

Snobelen

Spina

Sterling

Stewart

Stockwell

Tascona

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wettlaufer

Wilson

Witmer

Wood

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 27

Agostino

Bartolucci

Bountrogianni

Boyer

Bryant

Caplan

Churley

Colle

Conway

Cordiano

Di Cocco

Dombrowsky

Duncan

Gerretsen

Gravelle

Kennedy

Kormos

Levac

Marchese

Martel

McMeekin

Parsons

Phillips

Prue

Ramsay

Sergio

Sorbara

The House then adjourned at 6:00 p.m.

À 18 h, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

6:45 P.M.

18 H 45

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

A debate arose on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 209, An Act respecting funerals, burials, cremations and related services and providing for the amendment of other statutes.

Il s'élève un débat sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 209, Loi traitant des funérailles, des enterrements, des crémations et des services connexes et prévoyant la modification d'autres lois.

After some time, pursuant to Standing Order 9(a), the motion for the adjournment of the debate was deemed to have been made and carried.

Après quelque temps, conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir été proposée et adoptée.

The House then adjourned at 9:35 p.m.

À 21 h 35, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

le président

GARY CARR

Speaker

SESSIONAL PAPERS PRESENTED PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER 39(A):-

DOCUMENTS PARLEMENTAIRES DÉPOSÉS CONFORMÉMENT À L'ARTICLE 39(A) DU RÈGLEMENT

Agricorp, Annual Report 2001-2002 (No. 107) (Tabled November 22, 2002)

Certificate pursuant to Standing Order 106(e)(1) re intended appointments dated November 22, 2002 (No. 108) (Tabled November 22, 2002).

Compendia:

Bill 210, An Act to amend various Acts in respect of the pricing, conservation and supply of electricity and in respect of other matters related to electricity (No.111).

Bill 211, An Act to resolve a labour dispute between The Ontario English Catholic Teachers' Association and the Simcoe Muskoka Catholic District School Board (No.110).

LCBO, Annual Report 2001-2002 (No. 109).